London bombings - inside job (like always)

TAPT explosive blows up without flames.
http://www/newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6925
-New Scientist article about TATP Explosive

"The explosives claimed to of been used in the bombings is TATP which does not burn when it detonates. Instead, its molecules simply fall apart. A video showing TATP being detonated showed that it can do so without producing any flame whatsoever. The reason is, TAPT dosen't use oxygen, and hence dosen't combust like "ordinary" explosives."
- Jenny Hogan New Scientist January 2005 (Article about TATP

SO why the hell do eyewitnesess say they saw an almighty flash and fireball and why were so many victoms trated for serious burns injuries if the bombs contained TAPT?

TAPT is extremly unstable explosive in large quantities. Richard Reied the "Shoe Bomber" used TAPT to detonate PETN. He diden't use TAPT on its own becuase its extremly unstable in large quantities.

How could 40lbs of TATP in 4 rucksacks get hauled around London without going off?

Dogbert was worried that you guys would get out of hand, so...

Please don't bash Deano, no matter how nuts he is. 😉

If you think he is wrong, argue your point, don't resort to '1'm l337 sk337 n00b!!!!111 zOMG u r l@m3!!!!111oneoneoneeleven111!' because it proves- or disproves- nothing.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Dogbert was worried that you guys would get out of hand, so...

Please don't bash Deano, no matter how nuts he is. 😉

If you think he is wrong, argue your point, don't resort to '1'm l337 sk337 n00b!!!!111 zOMG u r l@m3!!!!111oneoneoneeleven111!' because it proves- or disproves- nothing.

that bought a tear to my eye

lol

quickly ask why Scotland Yard arn't releasing any CCTV footage of any of the bombs, just like the FBI withholding all footage of the WTC/Pentagon attacks?
make em give an answer
A Kingstar van is clearly shown passing by the bus that got bombed the moment it detonated and what do Kingstar do?

Controlled Demolition I kid you not!

The number 30 bus, which got bombed, was the ONLY bus that day that got re-routed and this compliments the fact that all the locations the bombs detonated at are occult parts of London with a history of occultism and ritual.

The CCTV cameras on the bus get serviced atleast 2 or 3 times a week. For security reasons, the same few people always come to the depot to carry out the work, the Saturday before, the person who came was not the regular contractor!

and wait

the guy spent more than 20 hours over the weekend, 20 hours to see if the CCTV is working!!"

Amy Teibel, Associated Press Writes, who wrote on the 7th of July, the following: "British police told the Israeli Embassy in London MINUTES BEFORE Thursday's explosions that they had recieved warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said. The official spoke on conditions of anonymity because of the nature of his position."

As a result of this warning Netonyahu stayed in his hotel room and diden't attend the economic conference in The Great Western Hotel at Liverpool Street. Why was Amy's article hushed up after the 7th July?

Goddamn, he could be right ....or mabye YOUR a agent of the goverment sent to cause panic, i'm on to you deano

"Scotland Yard police force were conducting a training excercise on the 7/7/2005 simulating a multiple bomb detonation in the very tunnel the bombs detonated in!"

Lie. Pathetic.

And the first post is feeble as well- you cannot make ANY useful forensic conclusions out of a single-perspective (and not hugely detailed) photo.

The statements listed under the photo... who made them? Someone with a Masters of Forensic Science on the scene of the incident viewing the wreckage from multiple angles, or someone with too much time on their hands who decided to stare at a photo for a long time.

It contains the fallacy of suggestibility. Take for instance:

"Again, if the device was close to and had a direct blast path towards that structure, then that would have also been damaged and twisted."

And people are meant to read that and naturally think "Oh yeah, that's right!"

IS it? What the hell do any of us know? This kind of science is WAY more complicated than the layman might think, and any one of a hundred factors can change that conclusion.

On top of which, I look at that picture- crappy piece of evidence that it is- and I think "No... not necessarily..." to that point.

On top of which, that photo looks, to my mind, absolutely nothing like what it would look like if the bomb had been underneath the train.

On top of which, the masive amount of evidence showing that it was performed by a suicide bomber who, obviously, would have been on the train.

In fact, none of it look suspicious unless you want to believe it is.

"Not to mention the undeniable fact that most major acts of terroism have always eventualy been exposed as being perpurtrated by the government to advance the agenda of the day."

See, this kind of hyperbole massively detacts from the crdibility of anything Deano says- such a thing is in fact HIGHLY debatable. Some terrorist acts over tiome have been known to have been faked by the apparent targets. Most have no such provable connection at all.

Could you get anymore disrespectful than to pretty much rubbish a terrible event?

What a disgrace.

-AC

it was a favour for novusordo, he set it out and i made the thread for him

lets see...the floor is bent down the way...enough said

as for stating that the floor took the brunt of the blast...not true

take into consideration this...there was an incident of a man in palestine who had his arms around a suicide bomder when the device went off...the suicide bomber was killed...but the man holding him survived pretty much unscathed

this happens because certain explosives expand slowly initially before increasing in speed...its the same concept when someone tries to gas themselves in their oven but blow their house up...the centre of the explosion has little damage which then inceases further out

the part under the floor you mention...part of the chassis of the carriage by the looks of it...blown down the way then bent sideways as the train (which was moving at the time) continued down the track

as for the IRA point...it was actually loyalist attacks that were aided by m15...not the other way around...

Sorry but this is so offensive, think of the people who died in this, their families and all the people who were affected by this...to say it was a pre-meditated by the government is disgusting..whatever 'evidence' you may have...

deano's good at making a joke of human tragedy.

I'm not even one to value mass human life but this proves my point to no end.

The fact that you have lives of the apparant boredom that you need to seek conspiracy in everything, says it all.

-AC

Deano, your information is outdated. I am sorry.

Read Harry Potter 6 chapter 1 for some clues.

Main question is: Did Voldemort put Imperius curse on Bush?

Originally posted by PVS
deano's good at making a joke of human tragedy.

i dont see no joke at all

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not even one to value mass human life but this proves my point to no end.

The fact that you have lives of the apparant boredom that you need to seek conspiracy in everything, says it all.

-AC

in everything?
whats everything?

Originally posted by Fianna
Sorry but this is so offensive, think of the people who died in this, their families and all the people who were affected by this...to say it was a pre-meditated by the government is disgusting..whatever 'evidence' you may have...

no its not offensive at all..its to let people know that maybe things arnt always as straightforward as they seem

and dont be stupid to think i dont care about the people who died in the tragedy, you will be foolish for thinking so.
and dont tell me whats disgusting cos you have no idea