thanos v gog

Started by leonidas9 pages

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Blame your own core group then.

This is one Gog vs Thanos.

heheh. as the thread starter, i wanted it power v power, 1on1 locked in an impenetrable room. problem for thanos is that part of gog's powerset is his ability to control hypertime. these clones as they continue to be inaccurately named, most certainly are legal. nothing OUTSIDE either of their basic powersets are allowable. no cubes, no going back in time for gadgets, etc . . .

on a different note, people seem quick to assign a level to gog. forget mider's KC gog. the only thing we know about continuity gog is that he beat, nearly killed, and toyed and tortured superman for YEARS!! WHILE he was doing that, multiple versions of himself waged a 100 year war against the ultimate version of doomsday and an army of supermen!! gog was never pressed, was never in danger of losing, and gave no indication that he couldn't have kept going forever. he was never beaten, he ELECTED to stop the war and stop torturing superman. and he is UBER smart -- all of time is at his disposal. what he wants to learn he goes back and learns. he basically can't make mistakes, because each is erased when he goes back and returns. as he was depicted, gog is damn near unbeatable. his powers need to be a little better defined in a future arc.

going by the 'he's beaten more powerful people' argument (not a good one, btw) consider who superman has beaten! villains WAY beyond him -- some would say he's beaten skyfather level opponents! but he had no chance against gog. the beating connor received from gog was as bad or worse than the beating prime gave connor.

i'm seriously not sure why people don't like gog, or why they won't give him his due (unless you've not read the arc) but he was stupid powerful. and in a power v power match up, no prep no outside tech or gadgets, thanos isn't winning this one.

Once again, I'm calling bullshit. There is no substantial evidence that shows that Thanos cannot defeat Gog. What's going to happen when they've all been turned to stone, or just blasted into oblivion.

viewing it a different way -- could thanos beat 1000 thor's? of course one thor has no chance, but a 1000, all attacking at once, who just keep hammering him? thor is more powerful than a single gog, but not by THAT great a margin.

it is similar to avy's been analogy.

You mean bee, right? To be honest, if he summons an army of himself, then he's gonna win. One Gog though doesn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
You mean bee, right? To be honest, if he summons an army of himself, then he's gonna win. One Gog though doesn't stand a chance.

oops, sorry. 😮

yep, i meant 'bee'. and that's all i'm saying. i'm NOT saying it would be easy -- they would be pecking away at him for a LONG time, no doubt, but that's just gog's game. time is meaningless to him. that's again, not to say he could beat ANYONE. skyfather would be out, i think. they could absorb too much damage, and it's possible they might alter reality to somehow affect his time travel or stop time altogether. given prep or devices, thanos would likely find a way to counter gog's ability. in this particular scenario, i don't see anyone taking gog out who is below skyfather or who at least doesn't have some serious control over time to at least try and counter gog's powerset.

I think the problem with this is the scenario. A scenario is being picked that of course will be in favor for GoG. First I do aggree. being turned into stone is definitely going to stop the whole hypertime thing. Second, there is no doubt in my mind that if these to meet Thanos will not come into the fight a complete retard. Look at the whole runner situation. The guy travels faster that light yes Thanos was able to win Having Thanos in a room with a guy where he is oblivious to everything is like putting Superman in a fight and taking away his super strength. He going to come into this fight the way he always does, intelligent, smart, strong and devious. The fight wouldn't go GoG way.

anyway gotta go, My cousin just told me Ultimate Avengers is on and that it was pretty good.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I think the problem with this is the scenario. A scenario is being picked that of course will be in favor for GoG. First I do aggree. being turned into stone is definitely going to stop the whole hypertime thing. Second, there is no doubt in my mind that if these to meet Thanos will not come into the fight a complete retard. Look at the whole runner situation. The guy travels faster that light yes Thanos was able to win Having Thanos in a room with a guy where he is oblivious to everything is like putting Superman in a fight and taking away his super strength. He going to come into this fight the way he always does, intelligent, smart, strong and devious. The fight wouldn't go GoG way.

true, but as i said, we never fully learned all of gog's abilities. it is clear he has magical powers. to what extent? his TRUE incarnation is a genius -- he's lived 100's of lifetimes over and over. he may not be thanos, but he's no dummy, and he

may still have powers we've yet to see. in a forum situation, it would be tough for thanos to win. if they met in a comicbook, i seriously doubt it would be an easy fight for either one, and it would require some clever plotting or use yet another weapon for thanos to win. the point was, people said gog had no chance power v power with thanos.

i begged to differ. 😄

later

Originally posted by Thunderstrike

Gog doesn't have the power to defeat Thanos. This is the Thanos that sent Galactus bouncing like a basketball with one blast. By saying that Gog could defeat Thanos with pure power, you're insinuating that Gog is a skyfather, and he's nowhere close. Are you going to tell me right now that Gog would be a threat to Odin? I'm sorry, but that borders on fanboyish. No offense, but that's just too damn far.

Here's some Thanos stuff.
http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactus14jn.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactus27ey.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactus35rc.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactus48na.jpg
Galactus himself was impressed by Thanos' power. I'm sorry, but Gog isn't near the ability to do anything that Thanos just did.

http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magus12gb.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magus30zy.jpg
Power doesn't matter to Thanos. He always has an ace up his sleeve.

http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tyrant17ss.jpg
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Yeah. That just goes beyond anything that Gog could do, and Thanos is just missing his shirt. He outsmarted Tyrant, and stood up to an incredibly immense power, pre-upgrade.

What are these supposed to prove? He's weak against Galactus and Tyrant?
Galactus had him pretty much begging, and Thanos got the hell out of dodge when he really pissed Tyrant off.

These don't help Thanos case, and you definitely don't have any proof that Gog couldn't do anything similar in his own way. Gog is a crafty bastard as well.

Right now you are arguing simply for Marvels sake like I've seen you doing a lot lately. Not good. Look past company stuff and go into characters.

Originally posted by leonidas
true, but as i said, we never fully learned all of gog's abilities. it is clear he has magical powers. to what extent? his TRUE incarnation is a genius -- he's lived 100's of lifetimes over and over. he may not be thanos, but he's no dummy, and he

may still have powers we've yet to see. in a forum situation, it would be tough for thanos to win. if they met in a comicbook, i seriously doubt it would be an easy fight for either one, and it would require some clever plotting or use yet another weapon for thanos to win. the point was, people said gog had no chance power v power with thanos.

i begged to differ. 😄

later

Agreed. Well said.

use KC gog if you think thanos is so great and crap lets see how good he does against that monstrocity, and please dont bring prep into this! Thanos with our prep would lose horribly to KC gog which is gog wars gog anyway he has a portion of the powers of five DC gods and he can defeat any of them in one on one combat how do i know this well was the gl he defeated in KC a normal gl? No he wasnt he was THEE strongest GL in that place, was the flash as fast as the one we know NOPE he was faster so fast he could be everyone at once, he owned all of these guys and more even superman after superman, losing to doomsday isnt that bad who cares the guy evolves beyond the power of the GL rings the whole GL corps couldnt stop him and it took a gaurdian to beat him im so sure thanos would beat a gaurdian or an army of greel lanterns maybe in his dreams im just saying doomsday can evolve beyond thanos just like he did gog and gog is beyond skyfather and will womp thanos

Originally posted by Mider
use KC gog if you think thanos is so great and crap lets see how good he does against that monstrocity, and please dont bring prep into this! Thanos with our prep would lose horribly to KC gog which is gog wars gog anyway he has a portion of the powers of five DC gods and he can defeat any of them in one on one combat how do i know this well was the gl he defeated in KC a normal gl? No he wasnt he was THEE strongest GL in that place, was the flash as fast as the one we know NOPE he was faster so fast he could be everyone at once, he owned all of these guys and more even superman after superman, losing to doomsday isnt that bad who cares the guy evolves beyond the power of the GL rings the whole GL corps couldnt stop him and it took a gaurdian to beat him im so sure thanos would beat a gaurdian or an army of greel lanterns maybe in his dreams im just saying doomsday can evolve beyond thanos just like he did gog and gog is beyond skyfather and will womp thanos

Gog isn't beyond skyfather, unless you're bringing the world of Mider comics into play, where Gog, Doomsday, and Slade are the only characters, and they do nothing but beat Galactus all day because Mider says so.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What are these supposed to prove? He's weak against Galactus and Tyrant?
Galactus had him pretty much begging, and Thanos got the hell out of dodge when he really pissed Tyrant off.

These don't help Thanos case, and you definitely don't have any proof that Gog couldn't do anything similar in his own way. Gog is a crafty bastard as well.

Right now you are arguing simply for Marvels sake like I've seen you doing a lot lately. Not good. Look past company stuff and go into characters.

I don't think so, we both have stated why we think Thanos would win and you both have stated why GoG would. Going any further from this point would just have us repeat previously stated things like us stating thanos is to smart and you stating GoGs army would win. Lets just agree to disagree an move on to something else.

Based on previous arguements, a line a been drawn, it's pointless to keep argueing.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Gog isn't beyond skyfather, unless you're bringing the world of Mider comics into play, where Gog, Doomsday, and Slade are the only characters, and they do nothing but beat Galactus all day because Mider says so.

😆

Originally posted by Mider
use KC gog if you think thanos is so great and crap lets see how good he does against that monstrocity, and please dont bring prep into this! Thanos with our prep would lose horribly to KC gog which is gog wars gog anyway he has a portion of the powers of five DC gods and he can defeat any of them in one on one combat how do i know this well was the gl he defeated in KC a normal gl? No he wasnt he was THEE strongest GL in that place, was the flash as fast as the one we know NOPE he was faster so fast he could be everyone at once, he owned all of these guys and more even superman after superman, losing to doomsday isnt that bad who cares the guy evolves beyond the power of the GL rings the whole GL corps couldnt stop him and it took a gaurdian to beat him im so sure thanos would beat a gaurdian or an army of greel lanterns maybe in his dreams im just saying doomsday can evolve beyond thanos just like he did gog and gog is beyond skyfather and will womp thanos

Gog from the Doomsday comic is not beating a skyfather.