Magneto Vs All Jedi.

Well, back to where I was a few pages ago.

. No, that doesn't equal the energy output of Magneto. THIS is more like what Magneto can handle:

Tapping into the entire Magnetosphere of the earth:

http://img273.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magforceofnature6tl.jpg

Mags is amped here by that machine. Nuf said.

. Disabling EVERY single machine on the planet with an emp blast:

http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/3365/magcutsaswath8vm.jpg

Deflecting Captain Universe Spider-man's powers with a gesture and CU Spider-man was = to Silver Surfer:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1623/magshieldeasilydeflectscapt0fq.jpg

Once Magneto has his shields up the Jedi's are at a MAJOR disadvantage.

His shields can take a Phoenix's tk blasts going all out:

http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magtakesphoenixblast7nn.jpg

Screwing with people's bloodflow:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/940/magripsapartneo7do.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8623/magripsapartapocalypse4li.jpg

...one at a time...
The machine scan is relatively moot.
The issue with Spidey, Parker was still getting used to his powers and wasn't going all out. It was far from the Spidey that owned Graviton is about 2 panels a few issues later. At one point he expressed worry that he'd hurt Magneto.
Bloodflow tactics against Jedi who have rather good telekinetic control over themselves probably isn't going to work. Especially thousands .

. It's funny you mention this:

The penetrating force of adamantium can't do squat:

http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magtakesoutvindandshieldsfroma.jpg

Mjolnir is stopped by Magneto's shields:

http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg

I can't find the scan right now, but Karnak couldn't find a weakness in Magneto's shields and dubbed them "perfect."

Adamantium (and even Mjolnir) both contain metal. And I'll grant that Mags' shields are powerful, but enough telekinetic Force, combines with all those lightsabers, and he's in a lot of trouble.

You're also forgetting that lightsabers have shown themselves to be able to absorb a lot of energy (and more than just blaster bolts and such). Mags won't be mowing them down with ease.

AND, not to mention the fact that he could just create a worm hole to transport them to another dimension. (Exalibur Vol. 3; and X-Men: The End)

Again, you're severely underestimating the sheer number he's against.

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I appreciate the attempt batdude, and Magneto has gained a ton of respect because of you. But let's say he even neutralized the lightsabers (which he wouldn't, but just to handicap myself) since that sort of widespread power hasn't been displayed except when he's amped. But even then, if a small group of moderately-trained Jedi can move a Star Destroyer (possibly more than one...it's been a while) then just imagine the sheer amount of telekinetic force bearing down on Mags would simply crush him. Not to mention that we'd also have to include Uber-Jedi that could do that sort of thing on their own (they were a dime a dozen back in the Old Republic, and many of the newer ones aren't slouches either).

Add the lightsabers back in, plus the possible mind-rape if Mags slips up and loses the helmet via TK from the Jedi, and you begin to see just how screwed he is.

Add again the fact that he would have trouble stealing the lightsabers or draining them, and that reversing gravity would have little or no effect on the Jedi, and they could absorb a lot of energy (either with their lightsabers or by themselves) and he has very few battle tactics left.

Please try this over in the SW forum...as much as Magneto is Uber as hell, he wouldn't last a second in that forum, or in the actual battle.

even galactus and phoenix couldn't get through the shield why would the jedis get through???

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
even galactus and phoenix couldn't get through the shield why would the jedis get through???

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
even galactus and phoenix couldn't get through the shield why would the jedis get through???

But the X-Men can? Come on, do that math. No one's arguing that Mags is on par with pheonix or Big G. But if they were written at their galaxy-destroying peak, they would have killed Magneto, which Marvel couldn't have. Classic case of PIS...the same reason Batman has stayed alive all thes years.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There's nothing to suggest TK doesn't work inside the forcefield. Phoenix is hyperbole. And (having now found what was referred to) Galactus never directly attacked Magneto, all it was (while an impressive explosion occurred) was a force backlash from Galactus.

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This is getting somewhat... "Bashy"...

We've greed that, while superior to all the individuals (assuming that for some unknown and unsupported reason Luke couldn't just instantly kill him), he would fall due to numbers and maybe a million low-level telepaths with a few moderate ones in there.

NJO or DN Luke could beat Magneto by himself.

Magneto controls magnetism? Luke controls the basis for everything in the universe. Point Luke.

Luke can move so fast that it looked like he was wielding 20 lightsabers at once. (And this was in Dark Empire, WAY before NJO or DN) Point Luke.

Luke has instakill. One shot of emerald lightning and Magneto dies. instantly. Point Luke.

Magneto makes a black hole? Luke can control black holes, he's done it before. Point Luke.

NJO and DN Luke are pretty much unbeatable, Luke is a Force Demi-god by the times of NJO and DN. Mags goes down. Luke wouldn't even need his lightsaber at all.

BTW, whats all this talk about Kun being able to destroy planets? lol. If you guys went to the Star Wars Vs. Forums with half the stuff your saying in here you'd get ripped apart. Because most of the stuff I've read is BS.

Anyways, Luke wins.

I know this is a vague argument, mostly because all the facts of how Magneto would beat Luke are scattered all over the place. If someone was to type out all the main points of why you think Magneto would win then I'll respond to them. But there WAY too much fanboyism in this thread to respond to any good points because the good ones are swilled around with all the fanboy arguments. So if someone gives me a GOOD non-fanboy post of why they think Magneto would beat Luke then I'll gladly respond to it.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
NJO or DN Luke could beat Magneto by himself.

Magneto controls magnetism? Luke controls the basis for everything in the universe. Point Luke.

Luke can move so fast that it looked like he was wielding 20 lightsabers at once. (And this was in Dark Empire, WAY before NJO or DN) Point Luke.

Luke has instakill. One shot of emerald lightning and Magneto dies. instantly. Point Luke.

Magneto makes a black hole? Luke can control black holes, he's done it before. Point Luke.

NJO and DN Luke are pretty much unbeatable, Luke is a Force Demi-god by the times of NJO and DN. Mags goes down. Luke wouldn't even need his lightsaber at all.

BTW, whats all this talk about Kun being able to destroy planets? lol. If you guys went to the Star Wars Vs. Forums with half the stuff your saying in here you'd get ripped apart. Because most of the stuff I've read is BS.

Anyways, Luke wins.

I know this is a vague argument, mostly because all the facts of how Magneto would beat Luke are scattered all over the place. If someone was to type out all the main points of why you think Magneto would win then I'll respond to them. But there WAY too much fanboyism in this thread to respond to any good points because the good ones are swilled around with all the fanboy arguments. So if someone gives me a GOOD non-fanboy post of why they think Magneto would beat Luke then I'll gladly respond to it.

For the most part I agree, although, if his Emerald lightning didn't work (no reason why it wouldn't , but, still), then Magneto could take Luke, but, it'd be tough.

But, you're right. People don't know shit about SW here (for the most part). "Average Old Republic Jedi is equal to Yoda..." Such total bullshit.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Well, back to where I was a few pages ago.

Mags is amped here by that machine. Nuf said.

...one at a time...
The machine scan is relatively moot.
The issue with Spidey, Parker was still getting used to his powers and wasn't going all out. It was far from the Spidey that owned Graviton is about 2 panels a few issues later. At one point he expressed worry that he'd hurt Magneto.
Bloodflow tactics against Jedi who have rather good telekinetic control over themselves probably isn't going to work. Especially thousands .

Adamantium (and even Mjolnir) both contain metal. And I'll grant that Mags' shields are powerful, but enough telekinetic Force, combines with all those lightsabers, and he's in a lot of trouble.

You're also forgetting that lightsabers have shown themselves to be able to absorb a lot of energy (and more than just blaster bolts and such). Mags won't be mowing them down with ease.

Again, you're severely underestimating the sheer number he's against.

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I appreciate the attempt batdude, and Magneto has gained a ton of respect because of you. But let's say he even neutralized the lightsabers (which he wouldn't, but just to handicap myself) since that sort of widespread power hasn't been displayed except when he's amped. But even then, if a small group of moderately-trained Jedi can move a Star Destroyer (possibly more than one...it's been a while) then just imagine the sheer amount of telekinetic force bearing down on Mags would simply crush him. Not to mention that we'd also have to include Uber-Jedi that could do that sort of thing on their own (they were a dime a dozen back in the Old Republic, and many of the newer ones aren't slouches either).

Add the lightsabers back in, plus the possible mind-rape if Mags slips up and loses the helmet via TK from the Jedi, and you begin to see just how screwed he is.

Add again the fact that he would have trouble stealing the lightsabers or draining them, and that reversing gravity would have little or no effect on the Jedi, and they could absorb a lot of energy (either with their lightsabers or by themselves) and he has very few battle tactics left.

Please try this over in the SW forum...as much as Magneto is Uber as hell, he wouldn't last a second in that forum, or in the actual battle.

I already said that the jedi would win. 😐 I was saying that from the beginning. Magneto can't possibly win, but he'd fight his ass off. I even stated this before I posted all of that giberish.

Originally posted by batdude123
I already said that the jedi would win. 😐 I was saying that from the beginning. Magneto can't possibly win, but he'd fight his ass off. I even stated this before I posted all of that giberish.

Oh. 😐

Well then, well played sir. 😕 Glad we're in agreement at least. 🙂

Originally posted by jollyjim311
For the most part I agree, although, if his Emerald lightning didn't work (no reason why it wouldn't , but, still), then Magneto could take Luke, but, it'd be tough.

But, you're right. People don't know shit about SW here (for the most part). "Average Old Republic Jedi is equal to Yoda..." Such total bullshit.

thier all yoda's in effort
lol