Originally posted by brainchild81
After a tough battle, The J team is crushed.
I concur Marvels too powerful to go down. Strange could turn Fate into a babbling idiot, who couldn't say his own name and funny... he doesn't know why?
Marvels got too many resources. The J's go down hard with their tails between their legs.
But I do think that it would go the other way if it was Marvel doing the invading...
You also have people like Hulk Thor Juggernaut Hercules Apocalypse The Eternal X-MAN Franklin Richards Magento Venom and Carnage Proteus Wendigo Mr Sinister Doctor Doom would most likely survive The Deviants Abmonation Ghost Rider Doctor Strange ZZZax Atlas Morlun HIGH EVOLUTIONARY hey I could take out the Eternials and they could form UNI-MIND. They could bring down JLA and JSA together.
king Kam, nothing forge could do could withstand a motherbox upgrade of any equipment that the J team comes with or takes if they make a head quarters.
read world war 3 and see. forge cant compete with a mother box.
and dont forget, noone said theyd attack everyone at once, and theres no way all of these guys are helping one another, doom, the troll king, and the deviants on one team. plus magneto? HAW!!!!!!!!! never
Originally posted by Solidus Snake
king Kam, nothing forge could do could withstand a motherbox upgrade of any equipment that the J team comes with or takes if they make a head quarters.
read world war 3 and see. forge cant compete with a mother box.and dont forget, noone said theyd attack everyone at once, and theres no way all of these guys are helping one another, doom, the troll king, and the deviants on one team. plus magneto? HAW!!!!!!!!! never
And, aside from Magneto, who as of Excalibur was more or less good, the bad guys wouldn't even need to help out. Look at the Inhumans and the Eternals. Two whole races of super powered people. You've got S H I E L D and Black Panther with his Cosmic Cube. Like someone else said, get all the heavy hitting telepaths in one room with Cerebro and most of the J team is now comatose or outright dead. I think it'd really help if you posted a list of the people on the J teams currently.
I doubt they'd be able to even trespass into Marvel's Earth dimension without facing the wraith of it's protector.
No doubt seeing the force he's going to need to fight, he'd bring along whomever he feels needed to keep them from entering.
Molecule Man would be a big help.
The all seeing orb is a mother****er to get past seeing as the user can probe all other dimensions at once searching for and zeroing in on anyone even considering invading Earth's realm.
JLA: "Should we invade Marvel Earth?"
Strange:-appearing out of no where- "BACK DAH FUKUP!!" -banishes half the team to Deaths realm- -leaves for reinforcements-
Originally posted by Sentry
1. New Avengers: Sentry, Captain America, Iron Man, Ronin, Spiderman, Spiderwoman, Luke Cage, Wolverine...Avengers who went solo after Disassembled and former Avengers: Wonder Man, She-Hulk, Hercules, Warbird, Wasp, Hank Pym, Quicksilver, Quasar, Moon Knight, Black Panther, Firebird, Sersi, Justice Vance Astrovik... There are more, but I don't want to name them all...
2. X-men - Professor Xavier, Cyclops, Emma Frost, Bishop, Gambit, Colossus, Havok, Polaris, Shadowcat, Iceman, Beast, Sage, X-23, Forge, Cable... Too many to list...
3. Fantastic Four - Reed, Invisible Woman, Thing, Human Torch, and Franklin Ricahrds
4. Thunderbolts: Photon(Genis Vell), Atlas, Moonstone, Songbird, Charcoal, Jolt, Mach 1
6. Independents and other miscellaneous heroes: Hulk, Namor, Black Bolt, Namor The Sub Mariner and his Atlanteans, Nick Fury W/Shield, Comet Man, Nova Richard Rider, Rage, Night Thrasher, Punisher, Ghost Rider, Dr. Strange, Clea, Jennifer Kale, Topaz, Doc Samson, Daredevil, Jessica Jones...
6. Marvel's Villains/Former Heroes/Confused Heroes:: Dr. Doom, Magneto, Scarlet Witch, Temugin, Abomination, Wendigo...
There are a lot more, but I'm busy.
iwe are doing marvel as they currently exist. is thor king thor right now? i thought these were in the rules. pardon my ignorance.
now fight realistically. yes, marvel has these protectors. how often do u see eternals attacking threats outside of a celestial level event., or deviants for that matter.
forge can create anything yes, but if his mind cannot fathom a tool, he cannot crate it. thats a mother box. the motherbox is beyond the ken of mortal man.
someone told me to list the JLAers JSEers and JSAers, and i guess i should have don this from the start. my bad. lets try again
Superman, Batman, MM, WW, Aquaman, GL (john), flash, faith, plasticman, atom, orion, barda, mircle man
JLE:
Sister superior, coldcast, manitou raven, green arrow, menagerie, major disaster, kasumi
JSA:
mr. terrific, sentinel, flash, wildcat, sand, hawkgirl, hourman, dr. midnite, powergirl, stargirl, jakeem thunder (w/ 5th dimensional imp), atom smasher, doc fate, capt. marvel
so who from the marvel universe survives the onslaught, do any DC charcaters survive. rememebr the team has a 'bloodlust' but dont act completly out of character, (bats does not break into de whitehouse and launch a world ending salvo of nukes and supes doesnt crack de planet in half)
and obvious enemies like eternals and deviants dont fight together (do eternals usually meddle in the matters of man anyways?)
so the DC team fights the loners (spidey, hulk, mr. sinister, apocalypse etc) and all the super (or villain)teams who are accustom fighting invaders on a regular basis.
sorry for the confusion
Anything Forge's mind can think of he can create if he wants to invent a device that causes speedsters to be frozen in time when they try to move at superspeed he can make it. Add in other luminaries such as Doom, Richards, Pym, McCoy, Sinister, Doc Ock... the list goes on (I've noticed a crapload of people in the MU have PhDs) and any technology the MU need is theirs, they have contacts in other star systems and other dimensions. Rachel Summers can tap into the Phoenix Force. There are thousands of telepaths some of which such as Quentin Quire are more powerful than Xavier ever could be. Iceman is immortal and can kill Superman. Otherworld and the 600+ different Marvel Universes are technically usually on the same Marvel Earth but in a different dimension. They have Scarlet Witch and Magneto which combined apparently can do anything, Mad Jim Jaspers is alive again too. Then there's Strange...
Originally posted by Solidus Snake
between the thunderbolt, doc fate, hourman, and zatanna, they can by pass genis vell and doc stranges early warning.if king thor still exists, the thunderbolt will take care of him.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Anything Forge's mind can think of he can create if he wants to invent a device that causes speedsters to be frozen in time when they try to move at superspeed he can make it. Add in other luminaries such as Doom, Richards, Pym, McCoy, Sinister, Doc Ock... the list goes on (I've noticed a crapload of people in the MU have PhDs) and any technology the MU need is theirs, they have contacts in other star systems and other dimensions. Rachel Summers can tap into the Phoenix Force. There are thousands of telepaths some of which such as Quentin Quire are more powerful than Xavier ever could be. Iceman is immortal and can kill Superman. Otherworld and the 600+ different Marvel Universes are technically usually on the same Marvel Earth but in a different dimension. They have Scarlet Witch and Magneto which combined apparently can do anything, Mad Jim Jaspers is alive again too. Then there's Strange...
Right, any anything GL's mind can think of, they can create, without even needing the parts for it! And also, contracts in other dimensions and galaxies are irrelivent to this. Quit trying to make this against the Marvel Universe and it's parrellel realities.
Fine then in 616 Scarlet Witch+Magneto+Xavier send Superman back to Krypton where it never exploded and he's living happily with his biological mother and father powerless under their red sun. Happy?
Really a GL can create a machine that stops time, or a machine that nullifies powers? Never seen that before but do enlighten me.
Iceman still kills Superman.
The telepaths and precogs on Marvel Earth would sense the assault before it reached.
Originally posted by K3VILI don't think this limitation has ever been applied on Jakeem, since his thunderbolt, is actually TWO imps, merged into one. . . Super imp. . .Capable of virtually anything, but can be frustratingly precise at times.
King Thor will use his magic to send the thunderbolt back to his dimension, or disable it, anyway he can certainly counter his powers, also the owner of the thunderbolt can't use it forever, there's a limited time for every day.
