Was Anakin or Luke The chosen one

Again, the prophecy is NOT about destroying evil or darkness, since that is impossible. Good and evil, light and dark will always be opposed to one another; there is no other conceivable way of life. But in this case, it's not about you have two apples, I also have two apples. We bring balance to the kitchen table. No, it's the Sith seek to destroy good utterly and crush it under oppression, while teh jedi seek to defeat evil's machinations and restore the universe to its natural state, with at least some good present. If the jedi did not seek to merely restore the balance, they would install a regime of their own and conform everyone to be "good", and thus it would lead to eventual corruption and thus evil yet again. Therefore Lucas' point is that good can work for the balance and evil against it.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Again, the prophecy is NOT about destroying evil or darkness, since that is impossible. Good and evil, light and dark will always be opposed to one another; there is no other conceivable way of life. But in this case, it's not about you have two apples, I also have two apples. We bring balance to the kitchen table. No, it's the Sith seek to destroy good utterly and crush it under oppression, while teh jedi seek to defeat evil's machinations and restore the universe to its natural state, with at least some good present. If the jedi did not seek to merely restore the balance, they would install a regime of their own and conform everyone to be "good", and thus it would lead to eventual corruption and thus evil yet again. Therefore Lucas' point is that good can work for the balance and evil against it.

Originally posted by Revan Souer
But the Sith seek power not destruction and they also have emotions which the jedi don't. Wouldnt be more of a balance to have ajedis that loved and felt something as Ana did

You are confused as to the Sith's goals, and that's actually pretty sad when considering your moral development.

Sith seek power, which leads to domination and eventually comformity or destruction. You cannot simply "have" power and "have" emotions and not want to nuke some little country or planet because they piss you off and don't send you exactly a hundred credits for every person every day.

And everyone ASSUMES that the jedi don't love. They do. They are encouraged to show compassion, and they do have a special kind of love for one another, and for their duties and what they protect. But they are forbidden attachment, because attachment borderlines on obsession, and obsession is a chaotic emotion that leads back to wanting power... which leads back to destruction and oppression.

If the Sith ideal as you see it (Having power and emotions without reprocussions or possibly falling to evil) was possible, there would be dozens of enlightened despots in the world today. But there are none.

(edit: and I forgot to add, the Sith's ultimate goal is the destruction of the jedi and the rule of the galaxy. How is this a fitting goal for anyone to aspire to?)

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
You are confused as to the Sith's goals, and that's actually pretty sad when considering your moral development.

Sith seek power, which leads to domination and eventually comformity or destruction. You cannot simply "have" power and "have" emotions and not want to nuke some little country or planet because they piss you off and don't send you exactly a hundred credits for every person every day.

And everyone ASSUMES that the jedi don't love. They do. They are encouraged to show compassion, and they do have a special kind of love for one another, and for their duties and what they protect. But they are forbidden attachment, because attachment borderlines on obsession, and obsession is a chaotic emotion that leads back to wanting power... which leads back to destruction and oppression.

If the Sith ideal as you see it (Having power and emotions without reprocussions or possibly falling to evil) was possible, there would be dozens of enlightened despots in the world today. But there are none.

(edit: and I forgot to add, the Sith's ultimate goal is the destruction of the jedi and the rule of the galaxy. How is this a fitting goal for anyone to aspire to?)

True, but he is a rare case. The jedi discourage younger jedi from following the path of passion because they do not have the neccessary discipline. As for Jolee... well... he's not very ambitious by nature.

So if they where more careful with there selection process then it might work my way. Surely Ana fellings for Luke in the end helped him fight thou the pain of the lightering from Sid and made him make the right choice

True, but there wouldn't have been any reason for that choice had Anakin had any self control to begin with, and had heeded the jedi's ways.

That just speculation as we dont know what Sid would of done if Ana had stayed true to the teachings. But drawing from feelings of love during battle has probably kept more people alive then staying in a zen like state. Emotions can help and thats watch the Jedi should of taught there Pads but that they shouldn't let them control there actions as you and I do day in day out

I don't agree ont hat at all. If anything, a zenlike state would aid one in battle, whereas a passionate stance would blind one. It's pretty obvious that attachment and passion weaken one in battle and outside of battle.

I think it again depends on the person, thinking of my kids would get me through such things as war and conflicted. My love for them would make me fight harder to stay alive. As Im sure other people would say the same

True, but that's resolve. And one can have resolve of many things. Attachment is not limited to other people, although this is a particular attachment the jedi discourage, perhaps because it is so tenative.

But a jedi could just as easily have an attachment to his duty, to his honor or pride... to his fellows. Attachment in general does exist, and it can fuel resolve that can turn the tide in a battle or otherwise. But in particular, relationships between beings are fickle and chaotic. I know this, and you should note this as well. And for this very reason, they can spawn emotions and feelings that are very unjedilike more often and to a much stronger degree than can others... Most of the time.

Like I said, it's a failsafe, not the ultimate truth.

Anakin is the Chosen One...

Thanks for the input.

Pfft...

Originally posted by Darth Plagues
Anakin is the Chosen One...

Ha! I knew Plagues would come out of hiding and declare some statment corrupted by fanboyisim.

I don't get why people just read the thread title, pop in, write two to eight words, and then never check on or debate the thread at all. DO those people think we care about their unsupported, fleeting opinion at all?

Well, I suppose that's not fair. No one cares about my overblown and drawn out opinion, so meh.