Fantastic Four vs X-Men

Started by xmarksthespot33 pages

Why couldn't a well aimed optic blast take out Johnny?
Storm can't take Sue either...

It could, but he is capable of more, but since this is a CIS fight ( no brain bubbles, ultrablasts, and supernovas), then I'd say he could power blast ben, and perhaps reed.

Reed and Thing have taken the optic blast before with no problem.

It could keep them at bay, I didn't think it was going to be lethal at any rate...

X men because if wolverine can infiltrate their base and mess up the thing I am pretty sure Emma could go at it with Invisible chick. and storm could take care of torch and reed but it is still hard to figure out who wins because reed is real smart and he could find a way to win.

Originally posted by Droopy
X men because if wolverine can infiltrate their base and mess up the thing I am pretty sure Emma could go at it with Invisible chick. and storm could take care of torch and reed but it is still hard to figure out who wins because reed is real smart and he could find a way to win.
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Originally posted by Droopy
X men because if wolverine can infiltrate their base and mess up the thing I am pretty sure Emma could go at it with Invisible chick. and storm could take care of torch and reed but it is still hard to figure out who wins because reed is real smart and he could find a way to win.

what.the.hell...does that mean?

Originally posted by Droopy
X men because if wolverine can infiltrate their base and mess up the thing I am pretty sure Emma could go at it with Invisible chick. and storm could take care of torch and reed but it is still hard to figure out who wins because reed is real smart and he could find a way to win.

Reed is more than just smart when it comes to sciences, but he is not a tactical genius. perhaps he could find a way to beat the X-Men, but it would cost some time Ororo and her team won't give him.

Dudes I meant that is the fight could go either way.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why couldn't a well aimed optic blast take out Johnny?
Storm can't take Sue either...

Why couldn't Storm take Sue?
When Crystal was part of the team, she wasn't able to fire fire blasts through Sue's shield, BUT she was able to manipulate the atmosphere within the forcebubble...and so to win!
Why shouldn't Storm, who is far more acomplished at controling the elements, not be able to do the same???

Hey couldn't storm create a big cloud of rain on johnny and throw a tornado at him I mean she could blow the candle out that way 😄

wait!? crystal could manipulate the atmosphere inside the field? then storm can beat sue

Originally posted by Droopy
Hey couldn't storm create a big cloud of rain on johnny and throw a tornado at him I mean she could blow the candle out that way 😄

She did it with Pyro once, why not with the Torch?!

Originally posted by stormfront13
wait!? crystal could manipulate the atmosphere inside the field? then storm can beat sue

Yes she did and yes she can!

Combination of factors why I don't think Storm can beat Sue. Sue is invisible, her field is nigh impenetrable by Storm's in character attacks, her attacks are invisible making it impossible for Storm to dodge them.

Crystal did it to invisible GIRL...not Invisible Woman. And Reed is one of the best strategists in Marvel...any X-man compared to hi is a joke. In fact all the FF characters with the exception of the Torch have lead the FF quite efficiently against cosmic and big earthly threats. Go read an issue of FF...they have a strategy for every contingency...When Aron was masquerading as Uatu IW just yelled out an attack pattern that they had planned in case their Watcher allie ever turned on them. They have already fought the X-Men a few times, Im sure they have a strategy for the too. X-Men better strategists? WTF

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Combination of factors why I don't think Storm can beat Sue. Sue is invisible, her field is nigh impenetrable by Storm's in character attacks, her attacks are invisible making it impossible for Storm to dodge them.

Ororo doesn't need not to see Sue, just need to "see" her breath or her effect on surrounding air or sense her bioelectricity...
As long as Sue is a corporeal being and needs to breath she can't shield herself from Ms. Munroes manipulations of air.
When the kenyan Goddes fights "in character", can i assume that Sue does too? If the answer is: Yes, the "in character" is not a drawback at all.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Crystal did it to invisible GIRL...not Invisible Woman.

And the blue eyed Orphan did not develope her abilities since then?
Originally posted by Wynndar
And Reed is one of the best strategists in Marvel...any X-man compared to hi is a joke. In fact all the FF characters with the exception of the Torch have lead the FF quite efficiently against cosmic and big earthly threats.

"A joke"? Using strong expressions doesn't make an opinion more valid!
Reed is certainly a scientific super genius and a good strategist, but he is not at all a better tactician then Cyclops or Storm. And apart from them Nightcrawler, Archangel, Havoc and Emma lead the X-Men pretty efficient as well.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Go read an issue of FF...they have a strategy for every contingency...When Aron was masquerading as Uatu IW just yelled out an attack pattern that they had planned in case their Watcher allie ever turned on them. They have already fought the X-Men a few times, Im sure they have a strategy for the too.

I do read the issues of the FF...because i'm a fan of them...surprised?
And to their preplanned attack patterns i just say: Xavier and his X-Protocols
Originally posted by Wynndar
X-Men better strategists? WTF

Who said that?🤨

The X-Men win imo but Storm does not take out IW. Emma Frost's telepathy does.
I wrote "in character" so that stupid things like sun lasers wouldn't enter the discussion. Electrifying the air blahblahblah isn't Storm's style either.
Storm's abilities to sense bioelectricity are dubious. She has been snuck up on by visible foes before. Her ability to affect the inside of one of IW's protective forcefield's is also in doubt as Invisible Girl pales significantly in comparison to Invisible Woman.

BTW the Xavier Protocols are strategies Xavier compiled to defeat his X-Men, in case any of them ever went rogue. They have nothing to do with the FF.

mh...X-Men...because Wolverine would thrash them single handedly
he'd cut Grimm into pieces, the same with Mr. Fantastic...Storm would take on Johnny Storm...(hehe)..which is by far the most intresting battle but Storm wins it in close one..Emma Frost has little problems with the invisible girl...

Originally posted by RogerRamjet
mh...X-Men...because Wolverine would thrash them single handedly

🤨 Wolverine is near obsolete in this fight...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The X-Men win imo but Storm does not take out IW. Emma Frost's telepathy does.
I wrote "in character" so that stupid things like sun lasers wouldn't enter the discussion. Electrifying the air blahblahblah isn't Storm's style either.
Storm's abilities to sense bioelectricity are dubious. She has been snuck up on by visible foes before. Her ability to affect the inside of one of IW's protective forcefield's is also in doubt as Invisible Girl pales significantly in comparison to Invisible Woman.

BTW the Xavier Protocols are strategies Xavier compiled to defeat his X-Men, in case any of them ever went rogue. They have nothing to do with the FF.


I think Emmas TP(and not Ororo) will knock out Sue too. Just wanted to make clear that Ms.Munroe sure has a chance to do so as well!

Lightning is nothing but ionised, and so electrified, air...not her style?

Being snuck up on by invisible foes you don't know of and fighting an opponent from whom you know she is able to turn invisible are two severely different things!

I checked the issue with Crystal...Sue was refered to as Invisible Woman...and even if it would not be so, the Weatherwitch's powers now are severely stronger than Crystals were back then...that would compensate for Sue's advancements.

Sure is, that we will never know for sure until those two meet in a one on one fight!
invisiblewoman v. storm two truly impressive women...mmmh