Why Does Everyone Hate/Dislike/Loathe the DC Universe

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Originally posted by Khellendros
I dislike Supes' writing and fanboys. The character himself would be fine.

have you read verheidens run?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
DC has better writing, marvel has a better foundation though...

I think dc has decent foundations...

and yeah, the flash needs to get way more credit... not upgrades, just a bit more focus... f*ck, even impulse(bart, not sure about his hero name) is vibrating now...

I love both DC and Marvel and I have a fair shair of both DC and Marvel comics in my comic collection.


DC has better writing, marvel has a better foundation though...

I'm not so sure about that. If you count Wildstorm and Vertigo then DC has way better writing.

However, Marvel has some pretty decent stuff as long as you don't blindly follow their flagship stuff.

The Gravity (ongoing, you should definately pick up Gravity), New Warriors, Phoenix Endsong and GLA minis are excellent. Daredevil is usually pretty good. The MAX Punisher is awesome. Cable and Deadpool's jokes are actually funny unlike ICBINTJL. New Thunderbolts is a traditional yet awesome comic book super hero team read. Almost all of the Ultimate line has been pretty good. (Let's just say Allstar Batman and Robin was a letdown for me so far.) The Runaways are Marvel's premiere west coast comic. Then there is all that SUMPREME POWER stuff.

X-men and New Avengers is Marvel's money; but they do put out a lot of good stuff. There is a different tone to each company right now yeah. They both put out decent comics.

And the character problem in DC is real. Honestly if your not Superman, Batman, WW, Flash, or a GL nobody gives a rats ass about you and your goofy cape.

Personally, I think Marvel is underrated. Soley because a lot of people out there are like, "Marvel!?? psshhh...I'm so cool. I havn't picked up a Marvel title since the 80s."

Originally posted by 8bitChris
I'm not so sure about that. If you count Wildstorm and Vertigo then DC has way better writing.

And there you go. Right there, nail on the head. All those various companies DC has ahd the good sense to buy/start up? Awesome. Incredible. Especially Vertigo. But the core DC titles just suck from what I see.

The thing is, it seems like DC can't decide HOW they want to treat their holy trinity. It's liek they want them to be edgier and more conflicted, but don't realize that after the fourth of fifth time Superman goes on a rampage, people aren't going to give a sh*t whether he was attacked or not. All they know is the most powerful thing on Earth is routinely going batshit insane. And yet they keep up with the constant verbal handjobs. "Superman is so great, he's like a God but humble, oh where would we be without Superman, It'll all be okay because SUPERMAN is on his way!" It's just tiring.

I thought the Superman rampage was at at least 20+ times by now.

Thor gets the same type of respect. Captain America even moreso. Maybe not on the same level but it is there.

Originally posted by Ultimate Ion
Thor gets the same type of respect. Captain America even moreso. Maybe not on the same level but it is there.

Exactly. Not even close to the same level. Captain America can be pretty bad, but still not as bad as Superman.

My favourite Dc character is Batman because unlike most people in the DCU, he is not only underpowered, he is powerless. He should be a marvel character, he would probably fit into the Marvel universe better...........

Originally posted by willRules
My favourite Dc character is Batman
*looks at post, then at signature, then up at the post again.*

Do you mean a collective grouping concept when you say "Batman"?

Originally posted by Khellendros
Exactly. Not even close to the same level. Captain America can be pretty bad, but still not as bad as Superman.

the "what do u think this A stands for?" was pretty crappy...

Originally posted by Creshosk
*looks at post, then at signature, then up at the post again.*

Do you mean a collective grouping concept when you say "Batman"?

LOL

Nope I prefer Batman as in Bruce Wayne= Batman

I have different characters on my sigs so I have a bigger variety of comic book stuff. Honestly? I don't own any Nightwing comics but from stuff I have Read about him, he sounds really cool, I have read a few Internet comics with him in but that is it..................Im much more of a Marvel fan myself.............

Originally posted by pr1983
have you read verheidens run?

I think dc has decent foundations...

and yeah, the flash needs to get way more credit... not upgrades, just a bit more focus... f*ck, even impulse(bart, not sure about his hero name) is vibrating now...

By foundation I mean material to write about.

Look at characters like spiderman and wolverine, you can write on them FOREVER.

They have that potential.

<<"Superman is so great, he's like a God but humble, oh where would we be without Superman, It'll all be okay because SUPERMAN is on his way!" It's just tiring.>>

but you have to remember when the superman character was developed. we're talking about a character THIRTY YEARS OLDER than any marvel character. until marvel came along, there was (essentially) only ONE way to do comic books - the dc way. when you look at dc characters, you HAVE to look back to the culture of the time. then, having realized when the character was developed (and over how many years!) you need to ask yourself - how do you significantly change a character realized in the 1930's (think about how long ago that was, and how much the world has changed - north america has grown up with superman! how can you wonder at his popularity when he has become a part of our cultural consciousness?) WITHOUT really changing him, changing the essence of what the character has always been?

no easy feat. i think that to understand the essential dc characters, you need to look at them in the context of their history. in that light, i don't know how you can help but appreciate them.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
By foundation I mean material to write about.

Look at characters like spiderman and wolverine, you can write on them FOREVER.

They have that potential.

and the flash, superman and batman dont?

Originally posted by pr1983
the "what do u think this A stands for?" was pretty crappy...

Uhh...

1. That was Ultimate Cap. Different character.

2. ...What?? How is that related to what I was talking about?

Originally posted by Khellendros
Uhh...

1. That was Ultimate Cap. Different character.

2. ...What?? How is that related to what I was talking about?

You said cap was never as bad as superman...

Originally posted by pr1983
and the flash, superman and batman dont?
Of course they do, batman the most, but like its been said, everything was perfect a little too long...

Originally posted by willRules
My favourite Dc character is Batman because unlike most people in the DCU, he is not only underpowered, he is powerless. He should be a marvel character, he would probably fit into the Marvel universe better...........

Are you seriousy suggesting that marvel's charachters are powerless??

Im more in the middle ground about this.

I hate things from both companies to the gut.

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