Mary is not a Virgin

Originally posted by Phoenix
Apology accepted 😄

I am happy.

I have a headache today, so I am a little short with my words. I understand your point of view (at least I think I do about 85%). I was once a Christian but I saw too many evil people in the church and ran away. I am now a Buddhist and I know some of the most Jesus like people now in this faith, I wish the Christan religion that I grew up with had these kind of people. I understand that there are good people in Christianity and I hope to one day find them.

we're out there...you dont have to look very far 😛

Originally posted by a1hsauce
we're out there...you dont have to look very far 😛

That is good, most Christan I find here are like cking or jury.

nah i'm new age christian ✅ 😖hifty: with a touch of old school

Originally posted by a1hsauce
nah i'm new age christian ✅ 😖hifty: with a touch of old school

What is a "new age christian"? You can start a thread or pm me if you like.

lol just something i just made up right now haha... i believe in God and all that good stuff, but i cuss alot, i'm lustful, i lie, i'm a sinner, but when I repent its pretty damn truthful that im asking for forgivness

and god forgives it all even those things which we don't remember

touche ✅ 🍺

Originally posted by gp christ loves
and god forgives it all even those things which we don't remember

So you can go out into the world and be as bad as you like and just ask for forgiveness and you do not have to face the consequences of your actions?

I am a Buddhist, and I have to think about what I do before I do it, because I have to live with the consequences of my actions.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So you can go out into the world and be as bad as you like and just ask for forgiveness and you do not have to face the consequences of your actions?

I am a Buddhist, and I have to think about what I do before I do it, because I have to live with the consequences of my actions.

Originally posted by a1hsauce
no... the way catholicism sees it, you have to be truely sorry for your sins, but it doesnt end there.. you also have to try not to do them again in order to be completley forgiven

But how sorry can you be if you keep repeating the same offence?
And would god recognize it.

At least you don't have to wear a bunch of wood on your back.

Originally posted by a1hsauce
no... the way catholicism sees it, you have to be truely sorry for your sins, but it doesnt end there.. you also have to try not to do them again in order to be completley forgiven

I didn't ask the question out of ignorance, I understand the forgiveness doctrine. I see a lot of people who live their lives like what I stated. I wanted bring that to your attention, because when Christens talk about forgiveness they seem to suggest no consequence for their actions. According to doctrine, you have to pay the consequences for your actions.

Originally posted by debbiejo
But how sorry can you be if you keep repeating the same offence?
And would god recognize it.

At least you don't have to wear a bunch of wood on your back.

We're gonna lust, we're gonna lie, hopefully we dont cheat or steal... God sees inot our hearts and souls, he knows if we mean it or not

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I didn't ask the question out of ignorance, I understand the forgiveness doctrine. I see a lot of people who live their lives like what I stated. I wanted bring that to your attention, because when Christens talk about forgiveness they seem to suggest no consequence for their actions. According to doctrine, you have to pay the consequences for your actions.

Originally posted by a1hsauce
the way it was taught to me was... God knows we're gonna fall and sin everytime. its impossible not to sin. But as long as we make an heartfelt decision to try at the best of our ability to not sin. e.g. have impure thoughts, lie, etc. than we're forgiven.

We're gonna lust, we're gonna lie, hopefully we dont cheat or steal... God sees inot our hearts and souls, he knows if we mean it or not

Wouldn't be better to say...forgive me for lusting infinity?...that way you don't have to keep repeating it...

BTW..most churches teach that you are only forgiven IF you only really really really really really....try not to do it again....otherwise it's empty words...and then god starts turning the screws on ya....Of course that for chastisement...because he loves you....and the worse the screw turning is...the more he loves you.

Originally posted by a1hsauce
oh well personally for me definetly not. I'm the first to stand up for consequences.. I mean how else will you learn. A kid sticks his hand over a hot stove...he gets burned.. he learns not to stick his hand over that again... unless theyre into kink 😬

You will do well in life, with that point of view.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Wouldn't be better to say...forgive me for lusting infinity?...that way you don't have to keep repeating it...

BTW..most churches teach that you are only forgiven IF you only really really really really really....try not to do it again....otherwise it's empty words...and then god starts turning the screws on ya....Of course that for chastisement...because he loves you....and the worse the screw turning is...the more he loves you.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You will do well in life, with that point of view.

originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is a myth that was made up after Jesus was crucified

originally posted by Phoenix
In your opinion

actually you find this virgin birth through humans getting knocked up without being fertilized by man theme a thing of ancient mythologies.
for those into zoology this latter process of virign birth is called parthenogenesis

Originally posted by a1hsauce
the way it was taught to me was... God knows we're gonna fall and sin everytime. its impossible not to sin. But as long as we make an heartfelt decision to try at the best of our ability to not sin. e.g. have impure thoughts, lie, etc. than we're forgiven.

We're gonna lust, we're gonna lie, hopefully we dont cheat or steal... God sees inot our hearts and souls, he knows if we mean it or not

Thats pretty well summed up! 😄

I see it pretty much the same way. A couple of weeks ago I was on a Scripture Union holiday for disabled young people, and we had chat rooms every morning, and, as a leader, I had to take a pretty active role in these chat rooms, which at first was scary, cos I really didn't have the answers to what the young people were asking me!

Anyways, the subject of sin and forgiveness came up, and there ARE consequences for your actions. You can't PLAN to go through life as a sinner and then make a death bed confession, it just doesn't work like that. If you've planned it, it tends to suggest that your heart isn't behind it, and God won't accept it. You may be able to fool everyone else around you, but the Lord sees into people's hearts and knows whether they've been good and true. That's one of the reasons why I don't get the really super judgy people who call themselves Christians. If you are a true Christian, you will forgive everyone, and treat even an enemy like a brother. I, unfortunately, haven't quite got to this stage of forgiveness yet, but I think that EVERYONE is redeemable, if they want it bad enough. I feel that the only one who can truly judge a person is God, as He sees all their thoughts, deeds and sins, and we only see a very small part of it, so how can we be judging of them? I've never seen how people can be judgy of other people's sins - thats just a way of ignoring they're own.

Anyways, to sum up my big ramble for people who couldn't be bothered to read all that - I believe that they're are consequences to your actions, and that we should not judge people, as only God can judge people rightly.

Originally posted by finti
actually you find this virgin birth through humans getting knocked up without being fertilized by man theme a thing of ancient mythologies.
for those into zoology this latter process of virign birth is called parthenogenesis

Yup... Mithras was born of a Virgin.... story goes that the Virgin Birth, like the Divinity of Jesus, was a later addition to early Christianity in order to poach followers from and neutralise the threat of "Mystery" religions such as Mithraism.... the whole Son of a God, born of a Virgin, defeated a devil, did a few miracles, died and came back (or will come back) thing was a bit de rigeur....