Wonder Woman vs Fantastic Four

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
So, you're saying the ONLY way WW can win this fight is if she takes down the threat before they have a chance to fight her. Otherwise, she'd lose? (Since she can only hold her breath for so long, and it's hard to breath with a force field blocking your lungs.)

Exactly, they just rely on the unlikely speed blitz and try to set up a situation where the FF would lose. Notice how the scenerio revolves around facilitating a speed blitz. Regardless, what if the FF blitz her? What if they r invisible? what if Diana has force fields in her brain?

By the way thanks for the Wynndie comment Draco, that was really mature...As usual Im impressed that u can act like such a biiiig boooy.

Originally posted by Wynndar
U have a poor understanding of the FF. Sue was able to at least temporarily destroy Exitar the Celestial...She wouldnt consider WW any more of a "god" than Balder. Like I said before, your speed blitz is unlikely, otherwise WW wouldnt have any difficulty with the lame villains that routinely grace the pages of JLA. WW is immune to fire so what? Who said that the torch's most intense temperatures remotely resembled fire. Like I said, If he can damage the BEYONDERS metal he will vaporize diana.

See? This why nobody respects you. You coincede an "arguement" with debasement of a character. This shows incredible bias and little validity.

Speedblitz is unlikely? Then so is IW putting a bubble in someone's brain. Or Human Torch going all-out with a nova. As per your "logic" then all FF Foes should drop in the first few seconds of their fights...right?

As for the lame villains comment, FF has a MULITITUDE of lame villains. Mole Man. Nuff' said.

WW is immune to fire and heat. Largely. And the nova is useless against her vambraces and Lan. tech protecting her.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Exactly, they just rely on the unlikely speed blitz and try to set up a situation where the FF would lose. Notice how the scenerio revolves around facilitating a speed blitz. Regardless, what if the FF blitz her? What if they r invisible? what if Diana has force fields in her brain?

You're just relying on the fact that Diana somehow WON'T utilize her speed. And yet Sue will do the bubble in the brain trick.

Complete hypocrisy as usual.

Originally posted by Wynndar
By the way thanks for the Wynndie comment Draco, that was really mature...As usual Im impressed that u can act like such a biiiig boooy.

Thank You! Your Welcome 😉

Originally posted by Wynndar
Exactly, they just rely on the unlikely speed blitz and try to set up a situation where the FF would lose. Notice how the scenerio revolves around facilitating a speed blitz. Regardless, what if the FF blitz her? What if they r invisible? what if Diana has force fields in her brain?

By the way thanks for the Wynndie comment Draco, that was really mature...As usual Im impressed that u can act like such a biiiig boooy.

A lot of good arguments here on both sides. I'm more of a Marvel fan though I gotta say WW takes this. The argument why has been given several times by several people. I deliberately said no prep time when I started this thread. Given prep, even a few hours, Reed Richards would likely devise a plan to enable the FF to win. Given no prep however I say the FF don't have a prayer.

U dont see anyone Nova Blasting the Mole Man. Im not the one basing a characters value simply on their physical raw power. I didnt assume the FF would have to use any kind of cheap tactics to win like the speed blitz; it was simply my defense against those who said WW would speed blitz. I can offer a multitude of scenerios and refer to many actual fights where the FF fought beings similar or even more powerful than WW. I dont have to rely on something as lame as a speed blitz argument.

Coinceiding argument with debassment of character? I was calling u out for that very same thing?!?! What is wrong with you. And who doesnt respect me? Maybe just you. If there is any reason that you get more respect on here than me its certainly not because you know more about comics. Its just cuz ur on here 24/7. I have other things to do than talk on the internet and play video games all day.

Originally posted by Sentry
Can't Reed enter her through her mouth or nose passages, and, uhhh... nether regions.... In the Plastic Man vs Hulk thread, someone brought it up. Suffocate her. Crush her brain. Squeeze her uterus. Something... Does she have vicious anti-bodies like the Hulk? If Reed and Ben can stall her long enough, I'm sure a nova blast from Johnny or a full power blast from IW could put her down. Not easily though. Oh, I'm pretty sure Johnny can fly at the speed of sound too.

i would enter wonder woman any time.....

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
A lot of good arguments here on both sides. I'm more of a Marvel fan though I gotta say WW takes this. The argument why has been given several times by several people. I deliberately said no prep time when I started this thread. Given prep, even a few hours, Reed Richards would likely devise a plan to enable the FF to win. Given no prep however I say the FF don't have a prayer.

The truth^^^

Originally posted by colossus17
i would enter wonder woman any time.....

Did you see the time plastic man turned hisself into a dress for Wonder Woman? Me0w.

Originally posted by Wynndar
U dont see anyone Nova Blasting the Mole Man. Im not the one basing a characters value simply on their physical raw power. I didnt assume the FF would have to use any kind of cheap tactics to win like the speed blitz; it was simply my defense against those who said WW would speed blitz. I can offer a multitude of scenerios and refer to many actual fights where the FF fought beings similar or even more powerful than WW. I dont have to rely on something as lame as a speed blitz argument.

So the speedblitz agruement is not valid...because its CHEAP?

*snort*😆

Yep this untoppleable consensus you have given.

🙄

Originally posted by Wynndar
Coinceiding argument with debassment of character? I was calling u out for that very same thing?!?! What is wrong with you. And who doesnt respect me? Maybe just you. If there is any reason that you get more respect on here than me its certainly not because you know more about comics. Its just cuz ur on here 24/7. I have other things to do than talk on the internet and play video games all day.

Translation:

Me better than you!

Me have life!

Me have inferiority complex!

Please if you have kept up to date you would know that I only come here when I can get a break from my internship. I'm here once a week...on better days.

Originally posted by Juntai
cosign.

Did you see the time plastic man turned hisself into a dress for Wonder Woman? Me0w.

indeed 😇 dam she is hot, superman must be gay

I think was Big Barda not Wonder Woman. Plastic Man turned into a lamp in order to spy on WW bathing.

Guys, the thread states CAN she win. I believe she CAN win. Is this a guaranteed victory? Absolutely not. Remember something about these vs threads, we're trying to predict outcomes. Thus, there are several circumstances to this. I think under the given scenario, this favors WW though.

And guys, since when did we create WW to sound like Flash.
Gosh, let's just have her speed blitz Thor all day to death.

She does need to recoil and follow through after punching the Thing. Who says her blow is a 100 ton punch in the first place? Isn't it one's nature to not waste all your powers on one guy when taking on four simultaneously? As intelligent as she is, she may retract/hold back a little to save some of her stamina. She doesn't know anything about the other 3? Wouldn't she conserve some of that ferocity/strenth for the other 3? This may give everyone else the nano-second to do their trick.

All in all, it's a great matchup, Drac. Anytime, you can get people to get passionate about their favorite characters, it's a great thread.

Originally posted by Draco69
I think was Big Barda not Wonder Woman. Plastic Man turned into a lamp in order to spy on WW bathing.

Originally posted by BobbyD
Guys, the thread states CAN she win. I believe she CAN win. Is this a guaranteed victory? Absolutely not. Remember something about these vs threads, we're trying to predict outcomes. Thus, there are several circumstances to this. I think under the given scenario, this favors WW though.

And guys, since when did we create WW to sound like Flash.
Gosh, let's just have her speed blitz Thor all day to death.

She does need to recoil and follow through after punching the Thing. Who says her blow is a 100 ton punch in the first place? Isn't it one's nature to not waste all your powers on one guy when taking on four simultaneously? As intelligent as she is, she may retract/hold back a little to save some of her stamina. She doesn't know anything about the other 3? Wouldn't she conserve some of that ferocity/strenth for the other 3? This may give everyone else the nano-second to do their trick.

All in all, it's a great matchup, Drac. Anytime, you can get people to get passionate about their favorite characters, it's a great thread.

Really? Did she get a power upgrade recently?

Well, she's on par with Superman right? She's traded blows with him time and time again...Superman is off in the 100 billion tons range. . . or rather.. how much do you think planets wiegh? Granted Superman is still above her, especially when the situation calls for it, but WW is considered one of the best matches against Superman. And 100 tons is probably what one of his hair folicles holds.

Yikes!

Originally posted by BobbyD
Really? Did she get a power upgrade recently?

Class 100 usually means 100 or higher . Diana has been able to move small moons. I think that puts her way above a mere 100 tons. By comparison the Thing is class 95. She'd take him out with one punch. Johnny and Mr Fantastic would go down equally as quick. The only hope for the FF in this scenario is Invisible woman and it isn't much hope. Like I said, with prep I'd give this to the FF, but they don't get any prep.

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman is off in the 100 billion tons range. .

Not to get off topic but it was pre-crisis Superman that was in that range. I seriously doubt the current version of him is that strong.