Originally posted by Darth_ErebusYou can see him and WW pulling a moon in the picture at the beginning of the thread. In OWAW, he pushed an entire planet. Also, he can now smack around Darkseid, who the rest of the universe is pretty much afraid of.. Supes is on a whole new level.
Not to get off topic but it was pre-crisis Superman that was in that range. I seriously doubt the current version of him is that strong.
In the DC Heroes tabletop game, made in 1986... post-crisis, Superman's strength is 50, which means he can lift that many AP's [ability points] in weight, with EASE, with no roll, 0 AP's of Weight, is 50 pounds. The multiplier for this to get to 50 AP's, according to the effect chart on page 3 of the GM Manual is 1,000,000,000,000,000, if you multiple that by the 50, then divide by wieght in tons, 2000 lbs... you get... 25,000,000,000,000, which is what... 25 trillion tons? lol.
Hmmmmmmmm.... I don't know. Diana is good, but is she good enough to handle a team like FF?
I mean she'll have trouble with IW alone and the team is VERY experianced with working together.
Don't get me wrong, Diana handled Plastic Man, J'onn, Black Canary, and The Flash, but that was in a controlled environment.
This FF is going to go ALL out. I'm not sure speedblitzing is the definite win.
For one the blitz would be a very potent weapon here Tkina, but let's not focus on it for the moment.
Rather, tell me how the F4 would win, because honestly 3 of them are totally useless against WW ......Ben, Reed, Johnny would all have near zero efficacy. WW has faced characters who are far stronger than Ben could ever think of, more malleable than Reed at his best (I am assuming that Reed is not getting prep to come up with some whiz-burp that can swallow a universe or something), and have greater energy projection than Johnny at nova.
The only person who would be interesting would be the Invisible Woman, which is where the blitz comes in.
Even if the F4 is going to be going all out, so will she. And that means strength at Superman-comparable levels, speed at levels that (for the Fantastic Four) would basically render her impossible to register ), a skill level that is arguably the highest in the JLA, and combat experience against all strata of foes.
Anyways, that's is my opinion.
Please tell me yours on how the F4 would defeat WonderWoman.
WW stomps unless FF4 has 10 minutes prep+
Initially Sue will know she's coming and have her forcefield up based upon Arena rules, but Sue's shield won't hold for long and WW can decapitate Reed Richards with her tiara once she realizes he's virtually immune to blunt force. Speed blitz, once Sue's shield goes down they get stomped.
WW 9/10.
Re: Wonder Woman (Diana) vs Fantastic Four (Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben), who wins?
Originally posted by spidermonkey
Wonder Woman (Diana) vs Fantastic Four (Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben), who wins?
WW for the win and the only reason its not a curbstomp is because the Invisible Woman is there. Now if Reed got prep time, that would be different but also rather unpredictable.
Originally posted by spidermonkey
Hmmmmmmmm.... I don't know. Diana is good, but is she good enough to handle a team like FF?I mean she'll have trouble with IW alone and the team is VERY experienced with working together.
Don't get me wrong, Diana handled Plastic Man, J'onn, Black Canary, and The Flash, but that was in a controlled environment.
This FF is going to go ALL out. I'm not sure speedblitzing is the definite win.
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