A Decent Versus Thread...

you obviously don't understand my point here, yoda's force assisted speed is greater then kuns natural speed, one's natural strength is no comparison to anothers force assisted strength. Maybe Kun might also have force assisted speed, we haven't seen it as far as I know and there's no proof that he does (I'M NOT saying it's not true because we don't know about it merely that we shouldn't make assumptions either way) Now considering that it's extrmely probable that kun might have this ability, I personally beleive yoda has a deeper natural connection to the force then yoda, Including the amulets I'm not entirely sure but without the amulets to bolster kun's force connection yoda will just be that much faster then he is...

Well, how can Yoda's force assisted speed outdo Kun's when Kun's Force power is definately greater?

Originally posted by Dark Nemesis
Well, how can Yoda's force assisted speed outdo Kun's when Kun's Force power is definately greater?

Because its Yoda, duh! Jeez I thought you knew that Janus. 😛

Originally posted by Dark Nemesis
Well, how can Yoda's force assisted speed outdo Kun's when Kun's Force power is definately greater?

Where is Kuns "power" greater when the real "powerful" things he did were the result of his use of Sith magic ? And have a look at Yodas movement (especially in the duel with Dooku in AotC and the fighting scenes in ROTS) - how should somebody be "faster" than this ?

Bump.C'mon little thread you can do it!

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Where is Kuns "power" greater when the real "powerful" things he did were the result of his use of Sith magic ? And have a look at Yodas movement (especially in the duel with Dooku in AotC and the fighting scenes in ROTS) - how should somebody be "faster" than this ?

Sith magic IS the Force. It's the dark side, literally. You youself along with Illustrious and many others said that it is merely another term for refined dark side abilities. Now when it comes to Yoda you're suddenly going to change your stance?

And Yoda's movement in AOTC isn't nearly so fast that no one can keep up. Yes, he is agile... but he hasn't shown us any indication that he can sprint run for long distances across a moon-sized space station. Also, there is nothing to indicate that Exar Kun is slower using the Force, but there is every indication to show that he has longer strides, and thus if he wasn't using the Force, he'd make more progress than Yoda limping around.

Originally posted by Dark Nemesis
[B]Sith magic IS the Force. It's the dark side, literally. You youself along with Illustrious and many others said that it is merely another term for refined dark side abilities. Now when it comes to Yoda you're suddenly going to change your stance?

Nope. I'm just saying you can't difine raw force power because of acts of force use that require at least some time to prepare before they can be used. Exar Kun needed spellcasting to freeze the senate - killing the Masassi race and draining their life force was part of a ritual. It's not shaking your hand and everything goes "boom" like the "normal" dark side powers (lightning and stuff like that).

And Yoda's movement in AOTC isn't nearly so fast that no one can keep up. Yes, he is agile... but he hasn't shown us any indication that he can sprint run for long distances across a moon-sized space station. Also, there is nothing to indicate that Exar Kun is slower using the Force, but there is every indication to show that he has longer strides, and thus if he wasn't using the Force, he'd make more progress than Yoda limping around.

You watched ROTS...he is jumping over distances of 10 or 20 metres - before he drops his lightsaber he does a jump of approximately 30 metres in hight and 10 metres length to get up to Sidious. That's 50 times his own hight high and 15 times his hight in length. That's - just to compare - like Exar Kun jumping on the top of a 100 metre high building from a distance of 30 metres. In fact I've never seen somebody doing something like that. And Yoda can jump around in the Death Star where Kun has to walk because he already nearly touches the ceiling while walking around there and Yoda can use all that ventilation and garbage system tunnels while Kun has to use the "normal" ways. So...Yoda will be "faster" no matter how you look at it.

And if you want to start arguing how long Yoda can use the force to aid his movements - how long can Kun do that ? And how many time would Yoda and Kun need to cross 660 Kilometres distance (worst case) without force assisted movement speed ?

kenobi and tarkin!

im a little late, huh

Uh, yeah. Very late. This thread is done so far as I am concerned. The final result is unresolvable. Case closed.

i think Yoda wins...just because 900 years+unbelievable Force power+awsome saber skills> all.

and tiny green muppets rock.

Given the final challenge, Kun and Yoda are ridiculously even. I believe Kun may squeek by, but Yoda definitely has a nice shot at it.

Which is why it's too close. Unless people want to participate in a vote, but that could lead to more debate on a topic that is pretty well beaten to death. I'm open to a simple vote. No reasons.

Interesting thing is that Revan proved himself very capible by making it to the next to last round...

I'm supoosing, however, that Yoda wins this one. Score for the unrobed Jawa!!! Oooeteenie!!