Why did you Change your Beliefs?

Started by Raven Guardia9 pages

Originally posted by finti
or you realize for that for some, the non believers, we cross the canyon any way we like

Matthew 7: 13-15
"Heaven can be entered only through the narrow gate! The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide enough for all the multitudes who choose its easy way. But the Gateway to Life is small, and the road is narrow, and only a few will ever find it."

Matthew 19 :25-25
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God!"

Matthew 19: 24-25 means if you cling to your worldy ways and will go about life how you please and will not follow the way Jesus, you will not enter Heaven.

^ The thing is your quoting what a council of men around the year 324 AD chose to have included in the cannon of scripture out of over 100 plus texts?.....Out of all they could of chosen, they only came up with 4 gospels....And if this group of men at these councils chose certain texts, and then set themselves up as the "Word of God" on earth...ie Roman Catholic Church, then they could control the people....There are other texts, if you read them, that are quite different....you need to read and trace the history of your faith back to it's roots...Constantine was only out for control of the masses of people......The texts you posted were decided not on what the truth is.....

Originally posted by debbiejo
^ The thing is your quoting what a council of men around the year 324 AD chose to have included in the cannon of scripture out of over 100 plus texts?.....Out of all they could of chosen, they only came up with 4 gospels....And if this group of men at these councils chose certain texts, and then set themselves up as the "Word of God" on earth...ie Roman Catholic Church, then they could control the people....There are other texts, if you read them, that are quite different....you need to read and trace the history of your faith back to it's roots...Constantine was only out for control of the masses of people......The texts you posted were decided not on what the truth is.....

The Bible is the Living word. Choose not to follow if you will. I on the other hand choose the word of God.

Okay.God told Abraham to sacrafice his son Isaac by slitting his throat.Abraham was going to to do this and then God told him this was a test.Is this loving words?This is sickining and down right disturbing.If someone said they where sacraficing their child to God in this day of age would you belive them?I hope not.

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
The Bible is the Living word. Choose not to follow if you will. I on the other hand choose the word of God.

How do you know it's the "Living word" of god?...for sure that is...

Originally posted by mr.smiley
Okay.God told Abraham to sacrafice his son Isaac by slitting his throat.Abraham was going to to do this and then God told him this was a test.Is this loving words?This is sickining and down right disturbing.If someone said they where sacraficing their child to God in this day of age would you belive them?I hope not.

Its not sicking, it was indeed a test from God. And yes today many would find it disturbing and say the person was insane. You know why? Because many people now days hold diffrent beliefs and would think the one doing Gods word was nuts.

Originally posted by debbiejo
How do you know it's the "Living word" of god?...for sure that is...

How do you know its not?

Originally posted by Raven Guardia

How do you know its not?

I asked my question first.....Cause you said it was.

I think it's Allah.Not Jehova.He's punishing us for being a Christian nation by giving us natural disasters.

we can't prove this is some Gods way of punishing us.

Allah's winning....OH NO....So, that's who's doing it...I knew it had to be somebody up there.....It's the war of the gods......Only no one cares..except the fundamentalists...and the Muslims....

Originally posted by debbiejo
I asked my question first.....Cause you said it was.

And I answered. You cant just say its not his word. Its in the Bible, and I happen to Believe what this Precious Book says.

Originally posted by mr.smiley
I think it's Allah.Not Jehova.He's punishing us for being a Christian nation by giving us natural disasters.

we can't prove this is some Gods way of punishing us.


No we cant prove it.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Allah's winning....OH NO....So, that's who's doing it...I knew it had to be somebody up there.....It's the war of the gods......Only no one cares..except the fundamentalists...and the Muslims....

You disgust me. Mainly because you were brought up knowing the way and yet you so rudely act as if you do not know God.

QUOTE=5043873]Originally posted by Raven Guardia

You disgust me. Mainly because you were brought up knowing the way and yet you so rudely act as if you do not know God.
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I'm sorry, I have multiple personalities...

If there is such thing as God, then all the religions are correct. ✅

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
If there is such thing as God, then all the religions are correct. ✅

Religions all can't be correct....not in their doctrinal beliefs..

Matthew 7: 13-15
"Heaven can be entered only through the narrow gate! The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide enough for all the multitudes who choose its easy way. But the Gateway to Life is small, and the road is narrow, and only a few will ever find it."

Matthew 19 :25-25
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God!"

Matthew 19: 24-25 means if you cling to your worldy ways and will go about life how you please and will not follow the way Jesus, you will not enter Heaven.

so the bible phrases says, so what? That book is as valid to me as the taste of soup is to a spoon

originally posted by Raven Guardia
You disgust me.

the only thing that is disgusting here is your view on Katrina and New Orleans

Originally posted by Raven Guardia

You disgust me. Mainly because you were brought up knowing the way and yet you so rudely act as if you do not know God.

Know God !? Since when christians "know" God... they just believe in things, they don´t know things.

Hmmm. My mother was a very moderate, liberal Christian, my father a staunch atheist. Religion didn't play much of a part, though I guess in a way I was somewhat Christian. Though really I never felt anything. The "Good Book" which I was told in school scripture had no effect on me, as a person who loved history the Bible just was another moderately entertaining historical text, full of bias and all that feel good mysticism of the ancient world.

Anyvey there came a time when strangely I felt I should look into my "religion" come to terms with it, find truth in it. Felt right. However I was most disappointed. I looked at it from an intellectual, rational point of view, and I saw no real truths, no real facts, basic morals, smoke and mirrors, and a history of bias, bigotry, hypocrisy and ignorance. Just some skeleton of some ancient institution, manipulated by mere mortals claiming to have some great truth they would share if one would only "believe". I saw no God there, nor in Judaism, Islam or whatever. I saw little of beauty (other then the architecture) in Christianity, nothing that science could not explain better, nothing that could not be attributed to the works of human kind or to the randomness of nature.

I did my theology studies in school, coupled with history and psychology (interesting to see the way religion develops, and how human it really is) discovered that religion had nothing to really offer me, which was strangely liberating, although I do have some associations to Buddhism, though more as a philosophical basis, and aspects of Hinduism (Ganesha anyway, patron of scholars.) Though I admit, as a cynic and all, that in some ways I am still agnostic, I have an open mind and I am prepared to look for some proof, though I am yet to see anything that even remotely could be considered an all powerful God. And I am pleased to say I haven't needed religion or Godly fear to live a damn fine life in my relatively short years so far.

Originally posted by finti
so the bible phrases says, so what? That book is as valid to me as the taste of soup is to a spoon

the only thing that is disgusting here is your view on Katrina and New Orleans


Well course, your an Atheist. A person who cares only about there own beliefs yet does everything they can to take Religion away from the Christan's.

Think as you wish. You will never understand my point of view because you have already chosen not to.

Originally posted by Atlantis001
Know God !? Since when christians "know" God... they just believe in things, they don´t know things.

If someone is a real Christan and they Believe That Jesus did on the Cross for our sins they feel it in the heart and soul, then they know.

Originally posted by Raven Guardia

If someone is a real Christan and they Believe That Jesus did on the Cross for our sins they feel it in the heart and soul, then they know.

Who would god chose...a non believer with all the fruits or a christian with little or no fruits?

Re: Why did you Change your Beliefs?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Here's a curious question...[B]WHAT WERE YOU RAISED AS

How many people have once been Christians or other and changed their Beliefs or views and why?

What were you, and why were you that....And why the change....

And what would it take to change your belief?

And is change good? [/B]

I'm 14, I was raised a Hindu. I was never particularly religious, in fact I didn't really tend to think about it until I turned 12. I thought about things logically, not taking anything on faith and as a result I am athiest 🙂

Re: Re: Why did you Change your Beliefs?

Originally posted by Imaginary
I'm 14, I was raised a Hindu. I was never particularly religious, in fact I didn't really tend to think about it until I turned 12. I thought about things logically, not taking anything on faith and as a result I am athiest 🙂

You are too young to know, give yourself some time. 😄