Despite a lot of people beliefs to the contrary the ultimate counterparts are supposed to be a powered down more realistic portrayal of the characters apparrently. Ult Col is officially nowhere near as strong as the class 100 616 col. 616 Wolverine has far more experience than ULt wolverine just because he's been in comics longer but that clinches it for me. The 616 versions win definitely.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Despite a lot of people beliefs to the contrary the ultimate counterparts are supposed to be a powered down more realistic portrayal of the characters apparrently. Ult Col is officially nowhere near as strong as the class 100 616 col. 616 Wolverine has far more experience than ULt wolverine just because he's been in comics longer but that clinches it for me. The 616 versions win definitely.
i know thats why i said dont look at the rating system look at their feats...i mean like ultimate colossus is somewhere along the 16-17 ton range..and yet he managed to go to the ocean floor and carry a sumbarine that has a weight of thousands of tons, he stopped a train dead on its tracks..he had to be put down by a nuke....he beat the shit out of magneto and beat the shit out of thor and iron man....and many more......look at their feats
Originally posted by colossus17
i know thats why i said dont look at the rating system look at their feats...i mean like ultimate colossus is somewhere along the 16-17 ton range..and yet he managed to go to the ocean floor and carry a sumbarine that has a weight of thousands of tons, he stopped a train dead on its tracks..he had to be put down by a nuke....he beat the shit out of magneto and many more......look at their feats
Even with 616 the marvel rating system is messed up with the characters being far stronger than the numerical values of their allocated levels suggest. But it still lets you know the hierarchy. Who marvel considers stronger than who. Therefore 616 col is still a lot stronger and far more experienced. 616 wolverine is far more experienced as well so the 616 team take it.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Even with 616 the marvel rating system is messed up with the characters being far stronger than the numerical values of their allocated levels suggest. But it still lets you know the hierarchy. Who marvel considers stronger than who. Therefore 616 col is still a lot stronger and far more experienced. 616 wolverine is far more experienced as well so the 616 team take it.
its irrelevant to me what marvel thinks look only at their feats.....nothing more.....
Originally posted by colossus17
its irrelevant to me what marvel thinks look only at their feats.....nothing more.....
It may be to you but that doesnt mean much in a debate. You prefer Ultimate Colossus dont you? 😉
If it was just a little difference like ult was class 70 compared to 616's class 100 then id agree with you but the difference in stats is gigantic. So 616 team wins because of cols far greater strength and the greater experience of both of the 616 team
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
It may be to you but that doesnt mean much in a debate. You prefer Ultimate Colossus dont you? 😉If it was just a little difference like ult was class 70 compared to 616's class 100 then id agree with you but the difference in stats is gigantic. So 616 team wins because of cols far greater strength and the greater experience of both of the 616 team
dammit...and yes i do like ultimate colossus more....not for the reasons u think i do......
Dude. Ultimate Colossus and Wolverine will school their 616 counterparts.
They fight much more proficiently and a little dirtier. Plus, I strongly believe Ultimate Colossus to be even just a bit stronger than 616 Colossus. The feats I have witnessed are my evidence.
I have YET to see 616 Colossus withstand Magneto's hold and then overpower him. So until that happens, Ultimate Colossus is stronger.
And Ult. Wolverine just fights dirty, man. He would rip his counterpart to shreds.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Dude. Ultimate Colossus and Wolverine will school their 616 counterparts.They fight much more proficiently and a little dirtier. Plus, I strongly believe Ultimate Colossus to be even just a bit stronger than 616 Colossus. The feats I have witnessed are my evidence.
I have YET to see 616 Colossus withstand Magneto's hold and then overpower him. So until that happens, Ultimate Colossus is stronger.
And Ult. Wolverine just fights dirty, man. He would rip his counterpart to shreds.
thank you!
Since this has already been bumped.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Dude. Ultimate Colossus and Wolverine will school their 616 counterparts.They fight much more proficiently and a little dirtier. Plus, I strongly believe Ultimate Colossus to be even just a bit stronger than 616 Colossus. The feats I have witnessed are my evidence.
I have YET to see 616 Colossus withstand Magneto's hold and then overpower him. So until that happens, Ultimate Colossus is stronger.
And Ult. Wolverine just fights dirty, man. He would rip his counterpart to shreds.
That would only be true if Ult Magneto was as powerful as 616 Magneto, which I don't believe he is.
I say the ultimates. They fight a godly actually terroristic version of Magneto on the regular and Ultimate Colossus' showings against him were pretty insane considering Ultimate Magneto's powers and Colossus' physical makeup. It was also stated that Ultimate Wolverine's power was not just a healing factor, but adaptation to any type of trauma. When his head was removed, he breathed through his skin. They're not weaker, they're just different.
Originally posted by Silent Master
That would only be true if Ult Magneto was as powerful as 616 Magneto, which I don't believe he is.
imo he seems stronger. He was pretty much solely responsible for the events of Ultimatum. He almost ended the world and was powerful enough to kill every cell in Ultimate Wolverine's body.