Originally posted by xmarksthespot
In theory communism. In practice neither.
I do prefer social democracy to the cannibalistic capitalism of the American model though.
no you don't...Social Democracy is the ***** of all systes...it sucks so much it's not even funny...we have it for 50 years now and we turned one of the finest nations in the world into a herd of lazy dumbass idiot shits........way to go Social Shit.....
Originally posted by zoomonkey
you meant the flourishing growth of French social, well English... Spain... Poland... Switzerland... well remind me, which one is it that has seen such record growth and productivity please....thats right, doesn't exist
Originally posted by Fishy
No system really works but Capitalism is the best choice for us right now. Maybe we will actually have a good system in the future but I doubt it.
Capitalism and Communism are probably two of the worst man made systems to date..One opresses those deemed "weak"...the other discourages the spread/growth of "independent thought."
The real problem is that many people don't seem to realize that man wasn't inteaded to rule himself. That's why we have so many problems in this world, because no man is righteous enough, selfless enough, benevolent enough to lead mankind. Well actually there was one, but mankind put him up on a cross and killed him, because this world doesn't take a liking to people who "make sense" by showing others compassion and truth.
No "man made" system of government will ever last due to all the evil that exists in this world.
We may not be the son of God, but did you not read my post? Every pack needs a leader, even lowly animals cannot function without a compass to lead them.
The point is to stop being lazy pricks and actually choose a REAL leader. America and slowly but surely the entire world have this horrible philsophy of "lazy bastard". Something a capitalista nor a commie sympathizer would tolerate..
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Capitalism and Communism are probably two of the worst man made systems to date..One opresses those deemed "weak"...the other discourages the spread/growth of "independent thought."The real problem is that many people don't seem to realize that man wasn't inteaded to rule himself. That's why we have so many problems in this world, because no man is righteous enough, selfless enough, benevolent enough to lead mankind. Well actually there was one, but mankind put him up on a cross and killed him, because this world doesn't take a liking to people who "make sense" by showing others compassion and truth.
No "man made" system of government will ever last due to all the evil that exists in this world.
EXCELLENT POINT!
the inherent corruptibility of man is what holds us back. thats why every system is flawed.
my point about social democracy is that it stagnates the economy. the heavy taxation stunts growth, without growth there is no job creation and no room for people to better their own lives. its not the governments job to provide EVERYTHING (welfare, health-care, Medicare, employment, unemployment, social security etc etc ad infinium) for the people. people need to learn to take care of themselves, manage their own problems and stop pointing the finger at others for their own mistakes.
capitalism, in theory puts us all on playing field that rewards actions and hard work instead where you were born.
when a truly capitalistic transaction takes place both parties are happy, if you weren't happy you wouldn't have given up 400 in exchange for a computer or 200 for an i-pod or .80 for a loaf of bread.
in a socialist system, you pay 400, or whatever price is deemed by the government, whether you like it or not. you have no choice.
sorry for the rant... I'll get down now...