God cant be real because....

#1: It is not God doing these things persay, it is the Devil, aka Satan. He allowed satan to have his time to go against god, his whole perpose is to make us go against god's will. He wanted to be better than God. So since he couldn't be better than God following God's ways, he decided to go against him instead, and try to make us suffer to sort of laugh in god's face saying, "Look, I can make your own creation go against you! " kin of thing. Thats why hes trying to hurt people by going through terrorism and other things like that. Evil is everywhere.

#2: Satan once again was in control of that. God had much more control of coarse, but it was his plan to let these things happen, all has a reason. He allows satan to do his evil for a short time, and then he will come back on the judgement day. That means that he will come back for those who believed him, and thats when it will end for the christians.He will let evil be on the earth for another few years, i think its 3 1/2 yrs. But there is a second coming of God, and he will come and damn all the rest minus the ones that managed to live through the rough times of the persecution of the believers and followers of christ, and became saved during those times. This time is coming very soon. We can tell by the signs like we notice it is fall when the leaves change, says the Lord. He allowed it to happen, the same reason why terrorism is going on. It will end, but this is satan's time to be doing his part also. He has the permission form God to do what he pleases to people, he does nothing without the permissoin of god. He comes to him first. I will have to look into it more in the scriptures. Life doesn't end after death. You can go to heaven or hell. And God also doesn't want to interfere with everything, everything evil and sinful is sin, there is no level of how bad something is, so maybe he is just lettign us live the way we want to, including Hitlor. That was his choice, everyone has one. Thats the way God wanted it to be that we may have a free will. It is a part of his plan for us.

#3😖ame reason. Things happen, it is the way things are. God says that good people and godly people are going to suffer as well as bad ones and ungodly ones. He doesn't look at your physical suffering, God only loks at the spiritual things, he looks at the heart. He doesn't want you to suffer but the devil does. And as I said before, he only looks at your spirit. He does care for the struggles in your life, but that is spiritual. It's an emotion. It doesn't really matter how much someone may suffer from a disease, it matters about thier personal life with God.

#4: Look on the bright side. Look at all the good things that God is doing for us. Here are some thigs he is giving us:
~Happiness
~Choice
~Forgiveness
~Heaven, eternal life of happiness where nothing evil or sad or hurtful can be
~His Son, so that we are able to have eternal life
Think about these things, and be happy for these amazing gifts he has given us. Are they worth the suffering? Yes, because they all end with happiness and comfort, when you want him to. Go to God and he can answer you and help you. "For all things come together for good, to those who love God." Think about that verse.

#5: There is so much scientific proof that there is a GOd. Think of creation and the things some people believe in. The big bang is one scientific theory, and the conflict is, where did that spec come from? When there is no one there to have created it? Something had to do it. That leads scientists to beleive that there is a God. There anre many beliefs, and many scientists who have studied this subject for many years, sometimes all thier life, and they have all said to have had no choice but to believe in creation. That includes a God. Either that, or they all came to the point where it was the only thing possible. It is the only thing possible to believe in something, a supernatural being that has no end and no beggining, God. Doesn't matter what you can say or do, that's the way it is. And think deep, look at everything around you. Who else could have put the earth in such a position that it didn't freeze or burn in such a heat. Or create everything, the laws of physics, hey, soemone had to make those rules. If God wanted to make it possibble to float in mid-air but have it called gravity and make you heavy at the same time and make it possible that walls can only be held straight on a 45 dg angle he could have done it. End of story. And no one else but God could think of such a divine plan and create or minds. We can only clone things, but God can make up everything in our body, molicules and atoms, organs, emotions, no other thing on earth besides teh human race can think with emotional impact. No other can think lkike we can or try and think why soemthing is the way it is. No one can breath life into dirt and make a man. But God. It was a beautiful plan.

If you have anymore questions dont hesitate to ask me. Anything.
-Resa <3

Well I never said there wasn't an intelligent force..As for satan, that is based on myth. Most all myths have an evil nemesis. Like all so called devils, satan began as a god figure. The early Egyptians called him the Great Serpent Sata, son of the earth, immortal because he was regenerated every day in the goddess womb..the earth...Sata is also been associated by the underground aspect of the sun, Horus-Ra, corresponding to Apollos underground serpent form Python, who the Jews called Apollyon, spirit of the pit. To the Hebrews satan an adversary in the sense of the judge...One who tested the faith of another by asking trick questions like Loki...The medieval church insisted that satan "transfigures himself into an angel of light,, so anyone claiming an unofficial angelic vision could be charged with devil worship at the discretion of inquisitors, who, naturally, always knew the difference between a real angel and a devil in angelic disguise.

Satan is also called the morning and evening star just as Jesus was. Which really is speaking of the planet Venus..

What is real?

"If there is a God, why is there so much suffering in the world?" seems to be the question people ask when entertaining/adopting the atheist's stance.
My response has generally been, "Perhaps you need to change your understanding of "God."
I also like the response George Burns gave John Denver, when "Jerry" asked God how He could allow so much suffering.

God replies (to this effect): "How can I allow such suffering? How can you allow such suffering?"

IMO, a God which makes a creature without free will, a creature which knows with certainty that "God watches" and therefore s/he should do right because of that, is a lesser God than one who can create a being With free will, a being who can doubt God's existence, then decide on his/her own the right thing to do, learning, growing.

The Ultimate Creation is one which can choose, with honesty of heart and critique of mind, whether or not to believe. Unfortunately, such a glorious creation does not come without a price.

Bruce Lee once said that if enlightenment were easy, it wouldnt be worth anything.

Originally posted by Mindship
"If there is a God, why is there so much suffering in the world?" seems to be the question people ask when entertaining/adopting the atheist's stance.
My response has generally been, "Perhaps you need to change your understanding of "God."
I also like the response George Burns gave John Denver, when "Jerry" asked God how He could allow so much suffering.

God replies (to this effect): "How can I allow such suffering? How can you allow such suffering?"

IMO, a God which makes a creature without free will, a creature which knows with certainty that "God watches" and therefore s/he should do right because of that, is a lesser God than one who can create a being With free will, a being who can doubt God's existence, then decide on his/her own the right thing to do, learning, growing.

The Ultimate Creation is one which can choose, with honesty of heart and critique of mind, whether or not to believe. Unfortunately, such a glorious creation does not come without a price.

Bruce Lee once said that if enlightenment were easy, it wouldnt be worth anything.

No one has free will according to The Bible:

Acts 13:48

When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Ephesians 1:4-5

Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him In love, He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will…

Jude 1:4

For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Romans 8:29-30

For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

Romans 9:11-22

For though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God's purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, it was said to her, "THE OLDER WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER."

Just as it is written, "JACOB I LOVED, BUT ESAU I HATED."

What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be!

For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION."

So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy.

For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH."

So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.

You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?"

On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, "Why did you make me like this," will it?

Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?

What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

2 Timothy 1:9

Who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity…

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No one has free will according to The Bible:

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Originally posted by Mindship
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WOW! you are a man of words. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
WOW! you are a man of words. 😆

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Originally posted by Mindship
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I like it...

Some people have too many words to say nothing. 😱

Originally posted by Mindship
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Originally posted by Imagawa666
If God is real then I would like to draw everyones attention to the following facts:

1:Terrorism
If God loves all faithful then why did he condem so many in Beslan, the World trade center and London. In Beslan all those innocent children.

2:War
If he loves us all then why did 6million Jews get exterminated in WWII. Why did so many innocents who opposed the war die.

3:He makes even the devout suffer
My Grandad was a devout catholic yet he contracted Alzheimers diesease. He never did a bad thign in his life and was a dveout follower of god. So why did he and so many other faithful die agonising and cruel deaths. And make familys suffer.

Please respond. All the faithful I would like your defence of your God so I understand your views. And no the third point isnt becasue of my relative but because of millions of others. And where is the physical eveidence of God existing?

Alright,this is my opinion

1.God does not cause things to happen,he allows them,Satan can control things too,God allows them,it's not that he doesnt love us either,all I can say about your belief on terrorisim is to pray over it and ask God for the answers.

2.War? Well,the same for it,some people are true sinners which allows them to follow the devil,we all can,but the true believers of God choose not to,the power of Satan may have convinced certain people to attack our nation,then perhaps I am wrong? Lets suggest something,read your bible.

3.Your Grandfather,if he did believe in the lord Jesus Christ he is in heaven with him right now,but,the lord gave us human bodys,right? so the sickness and pain comes along with it,it's not God's fault your Grandfather passed away,nor is it your Grandfather's.It's natural,my great Grandmother passed away and she had the same problems,but there is not a doubt in my mind she is in heaven,you should realize your Grandfather is in a much better place,see,we are all selfish when it comes to death,my family wanted Granny to stay here on earth with us,but in truth it was better she went then because no one needs to suffer for our gain.I am sure that he was a dear man and he was very loving towards you,tell me something,would he want you blaming the Lord for his death,doubting the Lord's mighty power?It's not God's fault,it was just his time,the sooner you let it go and understand that God is still God reguardless of what you believe,you'll be better off,trust me.

God Bless You
~IA~ 🙂

Originally posted by InvisibleAngell
Alright,this is my opinion

1.God does not cause things to happen,he allows them,Satan can control things too,God allows them,it's not that he doesnt love us either,all I can say about your belief on terrorisim is to pray over it and ask God for the answers.

2.War? Well,the same for it,some people are true sinners which allows them to follow the devil,we all can,but the true believers of God choose not to,the power of Satan may have convinced certain people to attack our nation,then perhaps I am wrong? Lets suggest something,read your bible.

3.Your Grandfather,if he did believe in the lord Jesus Christ he is in heaven with him right now,but,the lord gave us human bodys,right? so the sickness and pain comes along with it,it's not God's fault your Grandfather passed away,nor is it your Grandfather's.It's natural,my great Grandmother passed away and she had the same problems,but there is not a doubt in my mind she is in heaven,you should realize your Grandfather is in a much better place,see,we are all selfish when it comes to death,my family wanted Granny to stay here on earth with us,but in truth it was better she went then because no one needs to suffer for our gain.I am sure that he was a dear man and he was very loving towards you,tell me something,would he want you blaming the Lord for his death,doubting the Lord's mighty power?It's not God's fault,it was just his time,the sooner you let it go and understand that God is still God reguardless of what you believe,you'll be better off,trust me.

"Innocent bystander" is an oxymoron. Anyone who stands by and does nothing while someone else is hurt is not innocent.

God isn't meant to be innocent,it's not our job to judge him it's his to judge us

Originally posted by InvisibleAngell
God isn't meant to be innocent,it's not our job to judge him it's his to judge us

An ominbenevolent being does not allow people to be hurt.

I suggest reading your bible

Originally posted by InvisibleAngell
I suggest reading your bible

I suggest reconsidering your belief system.

My belief system is perfect,I believe in the Lod Jesus Christ therefor I am assured I will have everlasting life

Originally posted by InvisibleAngell
My belief system is perfect,I believe in the Lod Jesus Christ therefor I am assured I will have everlasting life

What makes it perfect? How do you know that Jesus existed, let alone that he is the son of god? How do you know that there is a heaven, let alone that you are going there?

You do not know, you believe.

I know so because his word tells me it is so

Originally posted by InvisibleAngell
I know so because his word tells me it is so

I have a book that say that pink elephants can fly. It does not follow from this however, that:

[list=1][*]Pink elephants exist.

[*]That if they do exist, that they can indeed fly.[/list]