I actually consider Firelord to be more powerful than Terrax.
And its not a pushover, Herc stalemated him in the first encounter, but Firelord wasent just figthing him. It was also figthing Thor.
He also tends not to use much his powers other than the ordinary herald speed and blasts that granted, by themselves arent enought to take Herk or Thor down or down - for good-.
But i also take in consideration like i said the fact he stalemated Herk and Thor once, made Surfer run on another time and defeated him on another ocasion, where he even broke the Surfers board with a blast.
If he uses all his powers like that he can take Herk, if not, hes going down.
in that issue (thor annual 14) thor says something about being in a 'sphere that pulses to the rhythm of the sun'. he is also walking and talking normally, which leads me to believe thor was not actually IN the sun, but in some . . . 'magical' sphere (??) where atum lives. thor has never before or since (classic thor) flown through the heart of a star.
nova flame would reduce herc to ash. thor's hammer would let him shield the blast or allow him to teleport away and return to continue the fight.
"in that issue (thor annual 14) thor says something about being in a 'sphere that pulses to the rhythm of the sun'. he is also walking and talking normally, which leads me to believe thor was not actually IN the sun, but in some . . . 'magical' sphere (??) where atum lives. thor has never before or since (classic thor) flown through the heart of a star"
The one where he asks help against Seth? He was - in - the sun. The heart of the sun to be more specific, where Atum lives.
"nova flame would reduce herc to ash"
And Hulk, and Thor without hammer and everyone of the same class then. I agree.
<<Herk has taken a full blast from Nova and was eyebemed by Stranger before.
And blasted by Beyonder.
And Blasted by Adam Warlock.
And are all the matches bloodlust here unless its stated? Or the other way around.>>
and? hades has punked the stranger, and warlock? hopefully you're not comparing that 'karmic blast' to full power cosmic. can't recall the beyonder shot, but obviously it was no where near full power seeing as how galactus effortlessly changed him to slime. and i hope you're not saying herc would survive a nova blast that would also incinerate the planet? or a level of power that could smash ss's board?
herc's tough, and about my favourite when written correctly, but c'mon .. . .
And where im saying he will take a full powered blast by Firelord.
Im saying he took heavy stuff before on him.
And im also saying if he goes down with it, so would the others, including a hamerless Thor.
"and? hades has punked the stranger, and warlock? hopefully you're not comparing that 'karmic blast' to full power cosmic. can't recall the beyonder shot, but obviously it was no where near full power seeing as how galactus effortlessly changed him to slime. and i hope you're not saying herc would survive a nova blast that would also incinerate the planet? or a level of power that could smash ss's board?"
Leonidas im not saying he will. Im saying in that case pretty much everyone on his class will go down as well.
Wich would make every fight he is in, pretty easy from the get go.
Btw using Hades doesnt work well. Hes way above the top heroes level by himself. Herk its not, its more of a feat him surviving a blast from that kind of opponent than Hades, Hela or Poseidon.