Thats why they always run.... I wonder why they didn't at Yavin. I don't remember exactly it was something about being unable or unwilling if it was the last then the Rebels were real fools. Actaully they were, I still don't understand how they could have won the war. Palpatine trusted in the Empire a bit to much... Underestimating your enemy is never a good decision. But it wasn't like the Rebels had the greatest generals either, or the greater ships or weapons. By all accounts they should have lost.. Palpatine really overestimated himself... The fool.
No more rebellion? Not exactly. Rebels always exist where there is authority. But the organized, years in the making Rebellion as we know it would have been crippled.
Of course, if Luke hadn't joined the Rebels, why would he have led the Death Star there in the first place? He was helping Leia to aid the rebel's cause and Ben's.
Was it? I mean they had been hiding and running for a long time, they knew how to do it. This is clear by the fact that Dantooine used to be a rebel base but the rebels abonded it without the Empire even knowing about it. Why would the rebels do that? Unless of course they were running and hiding for longer. Of course Yavin does look more perminant then Hoth, but I don't know if thats true or not, it could hav just been an old fortress or something.
Anyways the Rebellion even making a permanent base is stupid when they have no way of defending themselves against a full scale attack.
Well, they were probably preparing for the confrontation in which they would have to defeat the Death Star. They already knew about it, and if they thought they might get their hands on the blueprints, they would be able to at least make a stand. Yavin is pretty much way out there, not on any major trade routes or anything. And the gas giant has four moons. In a galaxy with millions of star systems, it's as good a place as any to hide.
But by all accounts, they couldn't abandon the base at Yavin in time. If they could have, there would have been an evacuation starting the moment they arrived with the DS plans.
Yeah I guess so, but still its stupid. Yavin was a good place to hide no doubt about that. But still it wasn't the right choice if you ask me. They should have been able to leave. And maybe they weren't near any trade routes but that just meant fleets had to travel through Imperial space more before they could attack anything.
Besides if you run as much as the rebels do you should always have an evacution plan ready and one that can be executed in seconds. The rebel alliance made a great mistake with that base. Not because of my personal distaste for what they did, but because of the lack of evacuation plans and the possibility to execute them. Besides the Death Star attacked them in a place where they had no advantages, they should have looked for the confrontation with the Death Star instead of letting themselves be attacked.
Imagine if Palpatine would have been smart and would have send a fleet along. The Rebel Alliance would have been dead, destroyed gone. All in all I think the Rebel Alliance owned more to luck then to anything else. The Empire underestimated them a lot and this time it was just by to much. A foolish mistake to make.
I know, but look at what they were, it wasn't an open war... It was more like a Guerrilla warfare then anything else. You have to be ready to run and move at a seconds notice. They should have just been able to do that. Of course I can understand limitations but that just meant that the Rebels made a mistake by going there, or by putting so much people on that base and so much trust on it.
No matter which, one good attack from the Death Star with even a small imperial fleet would have ruined the rebel alliance. Fact is they weren't ready for open warfare with the Empire and yet still for some reason they had a base that could only be used to do that. At least from all that we can judge.
Originally posted by Deus Ex
Of course. The rebels didn't have very many military leaders in their ranks. All the good generals were on the emperor's payroll.
And still the Empire somehow managed to lose, makes you wonder how stupid a general Palpatine really was... After all in the ends its the supreme commander that makes one win a war or not.
Probably... Hitler could have won World War II but he was a fool and didn't listen to the greatest military minds in his time instead he trusted himself and he lost because of that. But he's not the only one that did it. It could be a nod at Rome too. Afterall Rome was the greatest and the most powerful and lost itself and its power because the Emperor was to lazy to listen to his generals and refused to believe that he could be defeated. That the glory of Rome could be defeated.
It comes around a lot in history.
Tarkin was a fool like Palpatine, overestimating himself and the Death Star and at the same time underestimating the Rebel Alliance. Vader did the same thing in ANH. It seems like these Imperials really have some trouble with recognizing danger... They are leaving themselves open with no good reason... The fools.
Well, when you've ruled the galaxy mostly unopposed for twenty years, you get lazy. Also, pride is a reoccuring theme in the series; Anakin's pride gets the better of him, as does Sidious', Tarkins', and many others. Those who don't have an excess of pride (Obi-Wan, Yoda) are the exceptions, not the norm.