Battle of the Machines

General Grievous during ROTS vs. Darth Vader during ROTJ. Does the 4 lightsabers give Grievous the edge or does Vader have it with the force?

I said Vader, but it'd sure be close.

Vader: Stun Droid. Force Lightning. Force Lightning.

Can Vader do Force Lighting?

True, he can't (well he can, but that's like stabbing yourself). he can do Force Push however.

Or simply crush the General's gutsac. And he actually is completely incapable of lightning, I'm sorry to say. The beginning process alone would fry his every circuit.

Although, Jabar, now that you've brought it up. . . Vader has stabbed himself in a Star Wars tales story.

Greivous gets crushed literally.

why didnt obi do that (crush gutsac)

Jedi can't use the force offensive purposes.

mace did it in CW

CW is barely if not at all canon and Mace useses Vaapad which requires him to tap into the Darkside.

got you but this is GG obi should know some crush and should have used it

I doubt he knows a high enough level of Dark prowess for such utilization. Now, basic things, yes, but crushing somebody's damn organs takes a lot more ethan power. It takes a dark character, and in this case, a lack of humanity. Obi-Wan wouldn't have that kind of darkness in him.

True. But Vader doesn't move as fast as Grievous which gives him a huge edge here.

We don't know that. Vader could have enhanced reflexes just as Grievous does. Vader could just Force-Push/Rape Grievous all over the Death Star.

But his reflexes are the same. Only his arms (elbow down) and legs (Knee down) are robotic.

And we see that his robotic arm is enough to fend off, but not kill, Cin Drallig, who is a legendary lightsaber user.

Originally posted by Darth Faunus

Although, Jabar, now that you've brought it up. . . Vader has stabbed himself in a Star Wars tales story.

ESB, Grievous was hell-fast, but did that help him against Obi? The most passive Force-user in the movies? Vader'd just crush his gutsac.

Originally posted by Lord Simus
Greivous gets crushed literally.