Battle of the Machines

Started by Darth_Janus3 pages

But if he remade it, he'd be lynched in his own house. Fan-atics.

The goddamn fanatics. The Jawas should make them our #1 priority. Let's just eat the Ewoks, these guys' fanboyism is a force to be reckoned with on its own. We can't afford distractions.

Word. The New Jawa Crusade is against Fan-atics everywhere!

And if they're ewoks, double the bounty!!

Oooteenie!

Janus you are forgetting one thing in your argument.

Vader knew of GG... Yeah he was overconfident, still was even then but less then in Rots. I think he would realise that he could not win.

And you are right we don't know how powerful he is in the force compared to other Jedi. But we do know that Obi Wan was good, not the best but good. Anakin matched him. Vader since then became stronger yes I know many think he became weaker but everything seems to suggest otherwise. He learned a lot more of the Dark Side and there is just no reason to assume that he couldn't choke a none force user like GG.

Now the Jedi did not try that because its against what they do, but its only reasonable to assume that Anakin would use the Dark Side in his fights. We have seen him throw reasonably big objects around at Luke. Okay he was in complete control of that fight, but he could probably still do things like that when fighting against GG.

Now this fight IMO depends on one thing how big is the distance between the two when the fights start, if GG can move really fast he might start a fight with Vader immediately and take him out. On the other hand if they start at some distance or GG tries his flashy intro again he could die right away. One move of Vader his hand and GG could be in the air going down for the count.

We saw Obi Wan pushing him away with the force yeah he got up again but it clearly means that he could not resist force powers. There is just no reason, no reason at all to assume that GG could resist being choked. He's a droid not a Jedi. He doesn't have the force, he can't resist force powers.

Actually, if Grievious had in mind to activate the magnets on his metallic legs, or use his claws, he could resist force telekinesis. In any case, Vader's force power is much weaker now than it was previous, but easily more controlled. Still, like you said, it all depends on Grievious getting close, which I think he can. Even Kenobi, defiantely better than OT Vader, had a few close calls with the general.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Actually, if Grievious had in mind to activate the magnets on his metallic legs, or use his claws, he could resist force telekinesis. In any case, Vader's force power is much weaker now than it was previous, but easily more controlled. Still, like you said, it all depends on Grievious getting close, which I think he can. Even Kenobi, defiantely better than OT Vader, had a few close calls with the general.

Yeah but Kenobi wasn't using the force to destroy GG... He didn't use offensive force powers, he pushed GG once and it send GG flying.

And it can do that if the enemy is caught off guard. But in LOE, Mace can't easily Force push Grievious off into nothing while they are fighting on the passenger tram because of his magnetic feet.

Well yeah but that is a different thing then choking and the magnets practically glued him to the train, what is he going to be glued on in this fight?

Why bother force pushing when you can force drain, force scream, force choke or "fear" the poor bastard?

Uh, because this isn't a video game. I thought that was obvious.

And Fishy, odds are in Grievious' favor. This fight goes to him.

cant vader just crush the generals guts from 20 feet away?

Not if Grievous can close the distance, which, being the embodiment of death, shouldn't be impossible. . .

it takes 2 seconds to pop the sack

This calculation is coming from where?

how long does it take to pop a balloon? it comes from there

Which is sheer idiocy. . . I can beat up a person with prosthetic limbs, so I can beat up Darth Vader.

point taken the area where they are fighting is also important

Which is what I've wanted to know since this thread started.

Originally posted by Darth Avis
why didnt obi do that (crush gutsac)

Obi probably didnt have time becuase there were 4 lightsabers spinning around him.
I think grievous would win because ROTJ Vader is so slow and Grievous of ROTS is still pretty fast for a cripple

Do you honestly believe Vader can't fight fast, Koolwoo92?