The Wrecker vs Wolverine

Originally posted by Creshosk
What I think is funny is that he's being called a pis character because he always preforms outside of his described abilities. How mant times has he been described? Might THAT be the poor writing rather than what he does all the time?

I wouldn't say he's always performing outside of his described abilities. Many times, yes. Always, no.

And given his abilities + the fact that he's lost to people like spiderman, DD and other "lower leveled" characters, people take that as the "normal" way he should be written. I don't know if it should be so or not, but you're basically making the same point as i was making a few pages ago, that seeing as how he goes beyond his abilities, performing well against much stronger foes, be it PIS or not, be it crappy writing or good writing, it should be taken into consideration as being consistent writing, and therefore not discarded from the get-go.

~wickerman~

Errrr.........Cordera wanted me to say that he's sorry but he's stopped posting on KMC .....at least for a while i suppose 😕

~wickerman~

<<Yeah, he took abomination out in one single page. The scan is in the wolveine vs. abomination thread, even though people still won't accept it

That's all i want, nothing more. Even a 1/10 means that you give the guy a fighting chance, and don't just go saying "He loses" outright. As for the wrecker, i personally haven't seen the battle with thor, and don't know that much about his crowbar.....although a crowbar being as strong as Mjolnir sounds so incredibly horrible to me for some reason .

Thanks for the cool post

~wickerman~>>

no problemmo. but dude, PINK?? or maybe it's NOT dude? always assume it's guys 'round here for some reason . . .

incidentally, the crowbar was enchanted by loki, who was responsible for the creation of the wrecking crew. it IS very powerful.

Originally posted by leonidas
PINK??

Originally posted by leonidas
<<Yeah, he took abomination out in one single page. The scan is in the wolveine vs. abomination thread, even though people still won't accept it

That's all i want, nothing more. Even a 1/10 means that you give the guy a fighting chance, and don't just go saying "He loses" outright. As for the wrecker, i personally haven't seen the battle with thor, and don't know that much about his crowbar.....although a crowbar being as strong as Mjolnir sounds so incredibly horrible to me for some reason .

Thanks for the cool post

~wickerman~>>

no problemmo. but dude, PINK?? or maybe it's NOT dude? always assume it's guys 'round here for some reason . . .

incidentally, the crowbar was enchanted by loki, who was responsible for the creation of the wrecking crew. it IS very powerful.

Hmm.......must brush up on my Loki-ism.

And yes......pink eyes

LOL @ Creshosk
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~wickerman~

The crowbar as broken adamantium.

Originally posted by Wynndar
The crowbar as broken adamantium.

🤨 show.me.where. 🤨

~wickerman~

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Look jinzin's welcome to his opinion and it's nice that you're trying to defend him but I don't see what point you're making exactly.
Are you arguing that Wolverine should beat Hulk, Namor, Thor, Abomination, Wrecker etc in the Comic Vs Forum?
Are you saying that him doing so in comics is logical and well-written?
Are you saying if a character does something in the comics no matter how stupid, SvFLish and PISish it should still be relevant?
Are you saying that if character A beats character B in the comics then the outcome is already certain because it's happened before - and if so then what's the point of versus forum?
🤨
Hey look Wolverine's stabbed Magneto before... he'll win in Magneto vs Wolverine because he'll just stab him again.

jinzin thinks that Wolverine wins and that's fine. Most other people - myself included - have stated that they think Wolverine loses. What irks me is when threads go on for pages and pages because people refuse to believe Wolverine loses in the eyes of others. Persistence is admirable I guess, but for those of us with a low tolerance for tedium it's just plain annoying.

actually..."wolverine wins" isn't an argument I've made in this thread...not at all.... I'm still indecisive about the outcome here...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why do you assume people aren't being open-minded when they say Wolverine loses. If I thought Wolverine would win I would argue Wolverine wins. I don't. Imo he loses and imo in a fight where Wrecker's attention is solely on him, he loses badly.

Consistent? The healing factor is horribly inconsistent.

his assumption that people are not being open minded stems from various people telling me I'm a fanboy because I believe that wolverine can do something that's he's proven he could do more often than not.

When Wrecker was hunting down Thunder-ball for selling him out, SHIELD had him hidden in a secret bunker under and apartment building on Yancy Street. Conveniently located next door to the Things old apartment building. Thing was in the neighborhood visiting and Wrecker destroyed the adjacent building looking for Dr Elliot Franklin (Thunder-ball) which also caused the Collapse of Grimm's building. The door which was stated to be adamantium...I believe by Wrecker himself, caused him difficulty but he eventually broke it. People in Thing's building were killed and he was certainly pissed, after a long fight he ended up defeating Wrecker one on one.

I've read many fun things in this thread.
Wolverine killing Magneto and the false Magneto, the one that was Xorn's brother, was pure PIS.
Magneto letting someone like Logan reaching close quarter fight to stab him is just situational.
FATAL ATTRACTIONS anyone?
Read it Wolvieboys, check what is a Magneto VS Wolverine fight.
Wrecker showed his own against Thor, he was punking the NA, thanks to SW powers, they were able to overcome him, but come on, he looked a bit depowered to me.
The guy usually throw down with Thor, here we saw Cage, SM, SW and Wolverine beating him?
In a 1 on 1 fight, Logan is gonna being beat down REALLY BAD, I can tell you.
Wrecker while pumped up from Photon, was able to even overcome Thor for a while.
This guy is really a wreckin machine.
Logan shows his own most time thanks to pushover situations, especially in recent years.

Originally posted by Wynndar
When Wrecker was hunting down Thunder-ball for selling him out, SHIELD had him hidden in a secret bunker under and apartment building on Yancy Street. Conveniently located next door to the Things old apartment building. Thing was in the neighborhood visiting and Wrecker destroyed the adjacent building looking for Dr Elliot Franklin (Thunder-ball) which also caused the Collapse of Grimm's building. The door which was stated to be adamantium...I believe by Wrecker himself, caused him difficulty but he eventually broke it. People in Thing's building were killed and he was certainly pissed, after a long fight he ended up defeating Wrecker one on one.

Did he BREAK the door? did he BEND the door? or did he just remove it? Because if it was in its same initial state, only removed from the walls, then it's not considered breaking it 🙁

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
That was an oooooooooold issue. Did Hulk even have thunderclap then? I'm pretty sure he did, but he might not have. 😕

~wickerman~

Originally posted by jinzin
thunderclap isn't fatal....nearly fatal by wolverine's own admission but not truly fatal until proven otherwise.

Never said it IS fatal. however, a fight isn't only won by killing the opponent. If the opponent is knocked out, he's lost. And in special cases for people with regeneration or fast healing, there should be a time limit included inthe rules. That's just my opinion though.

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Did he BREAK the door? did he BEND the door? or did he just remove it? Because if it was in its same initial state, only removed from the walls, then it's not considered breaking it 🙁

~wickerman~

It looked like a huge 6 foot rigid chunk was broken out of it. The mystical adamant material like Wrecker's crow bar, Mjolnir, and Herc's mace are more indestructable than adamantium made by humans.

Originally posted by Wynndar
It looked like a huge 6 foot rigid chunk was broken out of it. The mystical adamant material like Wrecker's crow bar, Mjolnir, and Herc's mace are more indestructable than adamantium made by humans.

Aaaaaaaah, i find that very strange however, to have broken off a chunk of adamantium.......very strange indeed......or poor writing 😬 not sure which.

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Never said it IS fatal. however, a fight isn't only won by killing the opponent. If the opponent is knocked out, he's lost. And in special cases for people with regeneration or fast healing, there should be a time limit included inthe rules. That's just my opinion though.

~wickerman~

i get you'r point..I'm not trying to argue with you just pointing something out...when hulk used a thunderclap on wolverine, wolverine was sent into a berserker rage and put three holes in hulks chest.

Originally posted by jinzin
i get you'r point..I'm not trying to argue with you just pointing something out...when hulk used a thunderclap on wolverine, wolverine was sent into a berserker rage and put three holes in hulks chest.

😂 that's not what i was arguing back when i made the post you initially quoted though 😉
I was arguing about the consistency of wolverine's writing

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Aaaaaaaah, i find that very strange however, to have broken off a chunk of adamantium.......very strange indeed......or poor writing 😬 not sure which.

~wickerman~

U dont think that a mystically empowered character that has beat down Thor could break the material that laces Wolverine's skeleton?.

Originally posted by Wickerman
😂 that's not what i was arguing back when i made the post you initially quoted though 😉
I was arguing about the consistency of wolverine's writing

~wickerman~

oh... 😮