Originally posted by Pointinel
Now......i won't bash you or anything.....but have you read the entire thread? cause i don't think so. Please read the entire thread, and come back and post. If you HAVE indeed read the entire thread, then please make a more eloquent post, explaining why you think he wins. This isn't a poll, it's a debate.~Pointinel~
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~wickerman~
Originally posted by Creshosk
Don't know if he had figured that out til later. It'd be like saying that all of Iceman's original appearences were also PIS because he didn't know how to do what he does at full potential.Hulk isn't exactly the best at strategy. . .
yeah, i was just asking if he had it and didn't use it. I don't mean that if he had the potential but didn't use it it's automatically PIS, but you have to admit that given Hulk's powers at that time and logan's powers at that time, it can be seen as PIS that he managed to hang with him. Especially, since the whole point was that wolverine was supposed to be a Hulk villain. If he died outright or was unable to hang with him.....wouldn't have made a very good villain eh?
~wickerman~
Originally posted by WickermanWhich is why comic 'look goodness', is excluded.
yeah, i was just asking if he had it and didn't use it. I don't mean that if he had the potential but didn't use it it's automatically PIS, but you have to admit that given Hulk's powers at that time and logan's powers at that time, it can be seen as PIS that he managed to hang with him. Especially, since the whole point was that wolverine was supposed to be a Hulk villain. If he died outright or was unable to hang with him.....wouldn't have made a very good villain eh?~wickerman~
Originally posted by CreshoskWhy do you see it as sarcasm?
Of course I know about the fight. That a funny thing for someone who doesn't read wolverine comics to say.
Did that post say why he'd won or lost, your using someone elses sarcasm cause you didn't see the fight.
Don't use AC'isms or fanboy rantings on me, they don't work.
Originally posted by WickermanWhat's funny is that he frequently repeates being able to hang with the hulk.
yeah, i was just asking if he had it and didn't use it. I don't mean that if he had the potential but didn't use it it's automatically PIS, but you have to admit that given Hulk's powers at that time and logan's powers at that time, it can be seen as PIS that he managed to hang with him. Especially, since the whole point was that wolverine was supposed to be a Hulk villain. If he died outright or was unable to hang with him.....wouldn't have made a very good villain eh?~wickerman~
So if Wolverine who is supposed to be a great martial artist, was bouncing around, not being hit by the hulk. This is out of his described abilities? I don't imagine it was easy, but I think that based on his abilities its quite plausible.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterI've seen the fight, I have the books. So I don't see where you get off telling me I haven't read them, when you've openly admitted to not reading Wolverine's books.
Did that post say why he'd won or lost, your using someone elses sarcasm cause you didn't see the fight.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThen don't try then with me.
Don't use AC'isms or fanboy rantings on me, they don't work.
Originally posted by Creshoskgive me a link where I said this (because I didn't, you are following jinzins footsteps), and say what happened in the fight, instead of making a claim.
What's funny is that he frequently repeates being able to hang with the hulk.So if Wolverine who is supposed to be a great martial artist, was bouncing around, not being hit by the hulk. This is out of his described abilities? I don't imagine it was easy, but I think that based on his abilities its quite plausible.
I've seen the fight, I have the books. So I don't see where you get off telling me I haven't read them, when you've openly admitted to not reading Wolverine's books.
Then don't try then with me.
this is what you did:" srank said that.
So I'm right."
How was what I did an acism, you didn't counter my claim, but tried to sidestep it, whatever.
Originally posted by Creshosk
What's funny is that he frequently repeates being able to hang with the hulk.So if Wolverine who is supposed to be a great martial artist, was bouncing around, not being hit by the hulk. This is out of his described abilities? I don't imagine it was easy, but I think that based on his abilities its quite plausible.
If we're talking about the first appearance, which i was under the impression that we were talking about, the whole martial artist thing wasn;t there i think. The whole martial artist thing i remember came up with the whole Weapon X saga, and their implants. I may be wrong, but that's how i remember it.
Now, IF i am mistaken, and he was supposed to be a martial artist in that first issue, then when he got hit (not having adamantium bones) he shouldn't have gotten up, healing factor or not....that;s my opinion though.
If i AM mistaken, then martial artist or not, spiderman can't dodge the Hulk for long. course, i don't want to get into the whole spiderman vs. wolverine thing, but if that's true, then wolverine should've been punked, which leads to my previous point of being hit and surviving it.
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
If we're talking about the first appearance, which i was under the impression that we were talking about, the whole martial artist thing wasn;t there i think. The whole martial artist thing i remember came up with the whole Weapon X saga, and their implants. I may be wrong, but that's how i remember it.Now, IF i am mistaken, and he was supposed to be a martial artist in that first issue, then when he got hit (not having adamantium bones) he shouldn't have gotten up, healing factor or not....that;s my opinion though.
If i AM mistaken, then martial artist or not, spiderman can't dodge the Hulk for long. course, i don't want to get into the whole spiderman vs. wolverine thing, but if that's true, then wolverine should've been punked, which leads to my previous point of being hit and surviving it.
~wickerman~
What I think is funny is that he's being called a pis character because he always preforms outside of his described abilities. How mant times has he been described? Might THAT be the poor writing rather than what he does all the time?