The Wrecker vs Wolverine

Originally posted by demigawd
So Jinzin...does that mean you think Wolverine could beat the Wrecker in a fight?

I'm just asking out of curiousity.

honestly I'm not too sure yet....did wrecker hit wolverine? yeah...

did wolverine get right back up and get in his face every time? yes...

did wolverine's claws strikes disable wrecker to some extent? based on the fact that he was screaming out in pain everytime wolverine hit him and eventually was forced to drop his crowbar...I believe so to some extent..

honestly, if we are to assume wreckers fighitng ability is all that, than why are we to assume wolverine will do what he did here head to head (jump forward, claws out hoping for the best.)?

personally I'd like to see another direct comaprison between the two in a one on one matchup...

wolverine got tossed around sure, but it can also be argued that he didn't show any signs of slowing down, while the same can't really be said for wrecker.

but thank you, I appreciate that you didn't ASSUME my argument here was that wolverine would beat wrecker because honestly, I haven't made that claim yet. Nice to see someone doesn't just hate my guts for the hell of it..lol 😉

Originally posted by Arahan
Jinzin even believes Wolvi can kick the ass of Abomination, Namor, Hulk and Thor at the same time 😉

yep..I make that argument everday.....

wolverine rulllllzlzzzzzzzzz111111111

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<<but thank you, I appreciate that you didn't ASSUME my argument here was that wolverine would beat wrecker because honestly, I haven't made that claim yet. Nice to see someone doesn't just hate my guts for the hell of it..lol>>

how could anyone hate you . . . ? hug

Originally posted by leonidas
if the friggin' guardian can ko wolvie, i'm guessing a near-class 100 guy WITH a near-mjollnir level weapon could also ko him. how cresh asked - by beating him into unconsciousness with his unbreakable/mystic crowbar, that's how.

really, i know he's taken hulk shots, but he's also been ko'd by thing, by explosions that were a lot less powerful than the wrecker's shots would be and the FIRST time logan fought roughhouse, jinzin, roughhouse damn near killed him. after that, rh became a running gag . . .

like wolvie couldn't beat thor, wolvie ain't beating wrecker. and cresh, you asked how would wrecker beat wolvie? how would wolvie beat a guy on thor's level?

the only time roughhouse gave wolverine any trouble was when he got the drop on wolverine and wolverine tried to fight him without his claws not knowing anything about the guy while trying to protect tyger tiger....

after that you're right he did become a running joke vs. wolverine....cause everytime he fought wolverine after that wolverine was pissed off...that chances the outcome of the fight drastically in any wolverine scenario when he starts getting enraged.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<but thank you, I appreciate that you didn't ASSUME my argument here was that wolverine would beat wrecker because honestly, I haven't made that claim yet. Nice to see someone doesn't just hate my guts for the hell of it..lol>>

how could anyone hate you . . . ? hug

people read any one of my many pro-wolverine arguments that that's all the reason they need...
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thanks though buddy.

<<the only time roughhouse gave wolverine any trouble was when he got the drop on wolverine and wolverine tried to fight him without his claws not knowing anything about the guy while trying to protect tyger tiger....>>

wolvie DID use the claws after he was getting his butt whooped. surprised rh and put him down for a brief time but rh got back up and started beating on him again. later, wolvie didn't even HAVE to be mad. in one of their fights wolvie basically beat him up while hardly paying attention to the fight. silly, inconsistent writing.

and it only changes the fight if he has a chance to get berserk. wrecker could put him down before he has the chance.

maybe..maybe not...wolverine's berserker rage is a constant conscious effort on his part not to lose it...

assuming he was going into this fight knowing ho wrecker is he may as well go for it... he did it to mr. x (who while he could read wolverine's mind and predict what he was going to do before he did it, was unable to stop wolverine, before wolverine went crazy on him...) i think he could get to that point well before wrecker has the chance to put him down.

also the roughhouse thing...again..wolverine stabbed him not knowing he couldn't kill him...then rh got the drop on him again...too many factors to say that was straight up but even so...

it's not really an inconsistent feat for wolverine to have done so against rh... like the guardian pics you posted..that happened once...and only once...every encounter after that wolverine schooled guardian and on some occasion the entirety of alpha flight. that's what he does...he gets beat adapts and eventually overcomes..

this is why i said against shredder (in a story arch) shredder would beat him the first time in a humiliating fashion...

wolverine would come back and the fight would be pretty even until a plot device interrupted.

and during the third fight wolverine would eventually win...

it's not really an inconsistent showing when you can accept and realize that overcoming obstacles such as these is what he does best.

Originally posted by jinzin
honestly I'm not too sure yet....did wrecker hit wolverine? yeah...

He'd hit him so damned hard that he would fly to the next state, whats so hard to understand about all of this?

Originally posted by jinzin
did wolverine get right back up and get in his face every time? yes...

Wolverine won't be getting up so fast that wrecker would be caught off guard like you seem to envision.

He got up and ran into his face, so what, I don't get it. This is a worse comparison than the emma vs sue one in the other thread.

I simply wouldn't base my win on someone getting back in someones else face, especially when they were distracted, poor, poor logic.

Originally posted by jinzin
did wolverine's claws strikes disable wrecker to some extent?

Main Entry: dis·able
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Forms: dis·abled; dis·abl·ing
1 : to deprive of legal right, qualification, or capacity
2 : to make incapable or ineffective; specifically : to cause to have a disability —dis·able·ment noun

If we are talking about one, yes. It disabled him as much as a tack would disable me in a fight. It may hurt, but it wouldn't spell victory for the other side, its a nuisance.

Originally posted by jinzin
based on the fact that he was screaming out in pain everytime wolverine hit him and eventually was forced to drop his crowbar...I believe so to some extent..

Based on the fact that wrecker has taken on guys like thor, I wouldn' bet much on pain.

Remember pain doesn't equate to victory.

I can use a nerve point on someone under the nose, it would sure as hell hurt, but if they got out, the pain would be gone, and they would be relatively unaffected.

Now if I struck that point, that would be a big difference.

Originally posted by jinzin
honestly, if we are to assume wreckers fighitng ability is all that,

Why in the hell are we assuming wreckers ability to fight here?

I don't want to think that you apply that noone can fight, but wolverine?

Why would he need really any skill, seeing as he's stronger, and has a longer weapon.

With greater durability, is there any proof that wolverine can cause sufficient trauma to do him in?

Originally posted by jinzin
than why are we to assume wolverine will do what he did here head to head (jump forward, claws out hoping for the best.)?

Its what made him famous, deal with it.

Stop taking away things you don't like.

Why are we acting like Wrecker is going to have the disadvantage?

Is the title, spiderman, cage, spiderwoman, AND wolverine vs Wrecker?

I didn't think so.

Originally posted by jinzin
personally I'd like to see another direct comaprison between the two in a one on one matchup...

Yes, for one you agree with someone, what do you expect though, to notorize victory is ridiculous.

Originally posted by jinzin
wolverine got tossed around sure,

He was getting made into a little *****, what are you getting at?

You admit colossus can defeat wolverine 10/10, but you make it seem like this is a good shot for wolverine?

Originally posted by jinzin
but it can also be argued that he didn't show any signs of slowing down,

He could be going up, UP, UP , and AWAY!!!, into another state, or be beat to death, pinned, held down etc.

Do you honestly think wrecker cannot overwhelm wolverien's healing factor.

There's always the vital organs.

Originally posted by jinzin
while the same can't really be said for wrecker.

He had MORE people fighting him, and loss to a special condition, take off the fanboy goggles please.

Originally posted by jinzin
but thank you, I appreciate that you didn't ASSUME my argument here was that wolverine would beat wrecker because honestly,

Honestly you were, are, and still will be, defending him like a parent to a child who is ALWAYS in trouble, and come rushing to defend a bunch of nothing.

Its foolish, just let the bias go please.

Originally posted by jinzin
I haven't made that claim yet.

Don't try this "I'm being objective" here ok, because its bull, you are doing it to save face.

Abom, hulk, metallo, namor, and this thread are ones you claimed victory for wolverine, this is why I find that statement so bull.

Originally posted by jinzin
Nice to see someone doesn't just hate my guts for the hell of it..lol 😉

did you say something cordera? 🙄

Originally posted by jinzin
did you say something cordera? 🙄

Nothing, go back to bed....

all right jinzin, i'm not gonna pursue this overly long, but i need you to name me one cl100 character wolverine has defeated in a 1on1, no plot device battle. and since i don't want to really get into them, let's leave any hulk battles aside for the moment.

who you got?

😂 he just keeps responding....what exactly to..i have no idea...😂

Originally posted by leonidas
all right jinzin, i'm not gonna pursue this overly long, but i need you to name me one cl100 character wolverine has defeated in a 1on1, no plot device battle. and since i don't want to really get into them, let's leave any hulk battles aside for the moment.

who you got?

hercules...during a berserker rage... unless you want to argue that the berserker rage is a plot device...

which i suppose in a way it kind of is....kind of like super sayians ascending to higher levels...

Originally posted by jinzin
😂 he just keeps responding....what exactly to..i have no idea...😂

Originally posted by leonidas
all right jinzin, i'm not gonna pursue this overly long, but i need you to name me one cl100 character wolverine has defeated in a 1on1, no plot device battle. and since i don't want to really get into them, let's leave any hulk battles aside for the moment.

who you got?

Mention consistency, thats a big part. 😉 🙂

also abomination...logan Koed him in a straight up fight... he's 100+

also wendigo who is class 100+ and consitently shown to hang with hulk in brute fights. he's class 100 to 100+ and wolverine's put him down on several occasions.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Nothing, go back to bed....

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Irony or stupidity?

😆 Somebody got owned....

cheers

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The dear or the car? The second one is a good owned pic, but that first one . . . I don't know who's doing the owning. . .