Thing vs. Sabertooth

Originally posted by nimrod009
Hey Jinzin, apologies but I haven't got time to read the 16 pages of this thread...but are you of the opinion Sabretooth beats Thing? If so, could you explain how he can defend himself from several thunderclaps? Or have they been banned from this fight because that's the only way Sabretooth would have a chance.

[Edit] Apologies Accel, somehow I didn't spot your post saying pretty much the same thing!

chances are thunderclaps would work.. that's never been in question.. it would stun sabretooth.. Knock him out? I'd say that's up for debate.. chances are much more likely he'd simply lose his hearing....

the only problem there is CIS... it would seem that thing would resort to a thunderclap if he knew his pure strength, durability wouldn't overcome sabretooth... obviously ben doesn't use it enough for it to be considered a tactic he'd resort to more often than not... for this reason I think that sabretooth would close the gap between them.. which might not be all that far anyways before thing has the chance.. if that happens it's too late..

yeas I'm of the opinion that sabretooth wins this more often than not.. thing has the tools to take this 10/10 but CIS reduces that dramatically, due to the problem of both characters having an affinity for going into brawl mode I don't think win via thuderclap is a more likely scenario to take place over say.. a slugfest.. in which case sabretooth wins...

even then.. logistically.. a thunderclap should WRECK things equilibrium as much as it would sabretooth's but that's just MHO.

Sabbretooth is going to need a full denture after Thing beats him into a bloody pulp

are you dense or something?

again sasquatch unloaded hit after hit directly into sabretooth's face.. it didn't knock him out much less any of his teeth... 🙄

Originally posted by jinzin
are you dense or something?

again sasquatch unloaded hit after hit directly into sabretooth's face.. it didn't knock him out much less any of his teeth... 🙄

I'll keep that in mind just look out becuase Sabertooth has a weakness for speedsters from behind, like Northstar............... 😱

Originally posted by KharmaDog
The Wendigo manifests itself at different powerlevels, or at least it has, throughout the comics. This is not the same powerful wendigo that took both hulk and sasquatch to knock out. I would think that would be obvious to someone so well versed in comics as yourself.

sorry but because wendigo lost that means he was depowered?

uh no.. I don't follow that logic...
wolverine can put down a wendigo who's toe to toeing with hulk.. but an upgraded sabretooth LEAGUES AND LEAGUES superior to wolverine can't win against wendigo unless wendigo's depowered?

there's really nothing to prove that... again.. you're just making assumptions.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
That Sasquatch getting stabbed by a bunch of sticks is PIS? Orr that thing stomps Sabertooth?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
As for the sharpened sticks penetrating Sasquatches hide, that goes against everything that the character is. Sasquatch was beating Creed and that is how the writer ended the fight...sharpened sticks.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Thing matches Sasquatch punch for punch, and Saquatch can thump Creed. Ergo, thing thumps creed.

Originally posted by Soleran
I'll keep that in mind just look out becuase Sabertooth has a weakness for speedsters from behind, like Northstar............... 😱

yeah northstar messed him up pretty badly.. but honestly that was a horrible day for creed.. he started off the early morning/night hours fighting juggernaught, he got blasted by gambit, pwned by northstar and chopped to pieces by wolverine... just wasn't his day at all...

Originally posted by jinzin
admantium skeleton... 🙄 and I'm not so sure anyone can prove ben WAS fazed, he was knocked down.. which is certainly plausible considering he isn't impervious to gravity and/or momentum...

Um he has adamantium bones, not Adamantium ligaments 😐

Seriously if Hulk can rip Wolverine in half than he should have dislocated his foot.

Also, that kick shouldnt have fazed Ben at all and it SURE as hell shouldnt have knocked him down.

Wolveirne's kick is like getting a pulsh toy thrown at you to Ben 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
sabretooth killed wendigo who can toe to toe with hulk or sasquatch in almost every fight they've ever had between them.. but oh wait... he was depowered obviously.. 🙄

So do you honestly believe that the Wendigo that Sabretooth defeated was the incarnation (or comparable to the incarnation) that was class 100+ in strength and who fought both Hulk and Sasquatch?

Originally posted by Grimm22
Um he has adamantium bones, not Adamantium ligaments 😐

Seriously if Hulk can rip Wolverine in half than he should have dislocated his foot.

Also, that kick shouldnt have fazed Ben at all and it SURE as hell shouldnt have knocked him down.

Wolveirne's kick is like getting a pulsh toy thrown at you to Ben 😉

ben only weighs like what? 1,000 pounds? if his balance is messy at all wolverine can take advantage of that.. hell regular martial artists can kick with the force of over 2,000 pounds of pressure per square inch.. and they're not even peak humans.. much less enhanced humans with and adamantium skeleton...

Originally posted by KharmaDog
So do you honestly believe that the Wendigo that Sabretooth defeated was the incarnation (or comparable to the incarnation) that was class 100+ in strength and who fought both Hulk and Sasquatch?

I'd say he's at the very LEAST comparible to the incarnation that fought hulk in hulk 181 if not stronger.... there's really no way to prove it one way or the other, but the way i see it.. everytime an incarnation of wendi gets into it with a big-gun he's able to compete.. but when he's taken down by somebody like sabretooth he's automatically been depowered? I don't follow that logic.. expecially considering the things sabretooths' done.. look at killpower.. the guy stalemated hercules in an armwrestling match.. sabretooth (before admantium even) almost ripped the guy's head off.. it's not outside his capabilities to beat guys at sas' level or wendi's.. or things for that matter...

you keep bring up a-b-c logic.. well how about this?
wolverine's been able to get the best of thing twice... sabretooth is leaps and bounds ahead of wolverine in every category sans fighting ability... therefor he can take thing..

Originally posted by jinzin
I don't follow that logic.. expecially considering the things sabretooths' done.. look at killpower.. the guy stalemated hercules in an armwrestling match.. sabretooth (before admantium even) almost ripped the guy's head off.. it's not outside his capabilities to beat guys at sas' level or wendi's.. or things for that matter...

You may have convinced me. I was unaware that Sabretooth was of the same strength level as Hercules. Could you post me a scan of that as I have never seen or heard of that.

If this is true then thank you for enlightening me as to this information.

So Sabertoth is now class 80 or better? In that case he could take thing.

sabretooth is not that strong but he is a good fighter in weapon x he beated 2 of sinisters robots that got much more atrength then he does he got the claws ant the strength to tear with it

Originally posted by KharmaDog
You may have convinced me. I was unaware that Sabretooth was of the same strength level as Hercules. Could you post me a scan of that as I have never seen or heard of that.

If this is true then thank you for enlightening me as to this information.

So Sabertoth is now class 80 or better? In that case he could take thing.

Originally posted by red sabre
sabretooth is not that strong but he is a good fighter

In order to stalemate hercules in a contest based pourely on strength he would have to be that strong. Hercules is easily class 100 in strength.

Originally posted by jinzin
😂
wait are you being sarcastic?

No, I would agree if sabertooth was that strong.

Like I said, if he stalemated herc in a match purely based on strength, then he's a monster.

Originally posted by jinzin
i didn't mean that sabretooth was of the same strength class...

Then how did he stalemate herc?

Originally posted by red sabre
sabretooth is not that strong but he is a good fighter in weapon x he beated 2 of sinisters robots that got much more atrength then he does he got the claws ant the strength to tear with it

yeah these were sinisters superman.. super speed, strength, flight, heat vision, super reflexes.. they got downed pretty badly by sabes... so badly that 14 other supermen didn't want any part of him...

Originally posted by jinzin
ben only weighs like what? 1,000 pounds? if his balance is messy at all wolverine can take advantage of that.. hell regular martial artists can kick with the force of over 2,000 pounds of pressure per square inch.. and they're not even peak humans.. much less enhanced humans with and adamantium skeleton...

Your not getting the picture.

Wolverine's kick shouldnt even faze Ben 😐

Seriously, Wolverine should have dislocated his foot there.

Overall unless someone like Colossus is throwing Wolverine at him, then Ben isnt getting knocked down by Wolverine.

Oh and I did some reaserch and Ben's internal organs and muscles do have advanced durablility 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
yeah these were sinisters superman.. super speed, strength, flight, heat vision, super reflexes.. they got downed pretty badly by sabes... so badly that 14 other supermen didn't want any part of him...

Wait I remeber that issue didn't he get his ass kicked by the first one then come back and kill him?

Originally posted by jinzin
ben only weighs like what? 1,000 pounds? if his balance is messy at all wolverine can take advantage of that.. hell regular martial artists can kick with the force of over 2,000 pounds of pressure per square inch.. and they're not even peak humans.. much less enhanced humans with and adamantium skeleton...

Right on! I said almost this exact thing before concerning the very same insadent. Hehe

Grim you need to keep in mind that Ultimate Wolverine is stronger then his 616 counter part. He was once crushed under an SUV and he effortlessly pushed it off him with one arm. And he wouldn't need superhuman strength to that degree if Ben was off balance at the time of the attack... which he was.

Sabertooth once took a claw to the head and survived. I think he could beat the Thing. Not easily though...

sabertooth cutting him though? thing is a heavy hitter, and a good street fighter. thing takes it.