top 7 sith battle

It's called "with-holding personal information." I know, I'm taking this too seriously. But, tough. Now stop nagging.

now back on topic i think Hord can replace Nadd

Problem is, we know too little about Hord, outside of his saber-skills.

which is better then nadds of course i think he must have a very strong force connection to be such a great lightsaber duelist

Um. . . Not necessarily. Dooku lacked Sidious' Force connection, but he was equal to, if not superior to his Master in dueling capability. Stop with these random assumptions and inferences, please.

right but dooku's force powers are strong none the less and i doubt the force power diffrence is so huge that Nadd will win. Hord can beat Nadd if they get into a lightsaber duel.

Well I won't argue that. But there's absolutely nothing supporting it outside of one statement from Kreia.

that is still enough, and she didnt lie because the game makers wouldnt give us false info and not clear it up

I will however. Hord never met Nadd who stayed on a planet far away from Hord. Hord was probably before Nadd too and we have no way of knowing how good Hord is. The best of his time, would make the Exile and Revan look like a child.

Now what does that last sentence mean? Absolutely nothing, it could have been a lie and even if it wasn't Kreia had no way of knowing how good Revan was with a lightsaber, unless she was beaten by him with a lightsaber and even then doubts remain, you can always ask how easy it was. Seeing as Kreia is still in a okay status by the start of Kotor 2 you can only assume that if they did fight Revan took it with ease and did not have the need to cut her into pieces, something you would do if the fight became to close.

Now best of his time? What does that mean? What does that do? We have no idea how many lightsaber wielders there were around in his time, perhaps he was the first and only or perhaps he had beaten millions and proved to be great, we don't know. Everything can be argued with Tulak Hord. Taking the quote for what is would mean Tulak is powerful but Kreia has a way with words, we simply do not know how powerful Tulak Hord is.

paragraph 2 means nothing in nadd vs Hord. Also NAGA saw a lightsaber and Hord is past Naga's time. He is not the first with a saber. Kreia is after Hord and Nadd and said that Hord is better then anyone in lightsaber dueling which includes Nadd, but i may be wrong.

You may be, which is our point. You cannot use Tualk Hord in a thread. It's like saying if Mace Windu was a Makashi Master and lived in KOTOR times. You can only assume how could he his, and that just isn't good enough.

yea we need a book on Ragnos Hord and we need KOTER3

Originally posted by Fishy
I will however. Hord never met Nadd who stayed on a planet far away from Hord. Hord was probably before Nadd too and we have no way of knowing how good Hord is. The best of his time, would make the Exile and Revan look like a child.

Now what does that last sentence mean? Absolutely nothing, it could have been a lie and even if it wasn't Kreia had no way of knowing how good Revan was with a lightsaber, unless she was beaten by him with a lightsaber and even then doubts remain, you can always ask how easy it was. Seeing as Kreia is still in a okay status by the start of Kotor 2 you can only assume that if they did fight Revan took it with ease and did not have the need to cut her into pieces, something you would do if the fight became to close.

Now best of his time? What does that mean? What does that do? We have no idea how many lightsaber wielders there were around in his time, perhaps he was the first and only or perhaps he had beaten millions and proved to be great, we don't know. Everything can be argued with Tulak Hord. Taking the quote for what is would mean Tulak is powerful but Kreia has a way with words, we simply do not know how powerful Tulak Hord is.

I don't necessarily agree with what you assumed. "Revan took it with ease" is far from a valid assumption. But I do agree, arguing Tulak is even more difficult than arguing for Revan. We do know Tulak was a Dark Lord. There were enough Sith/followers to build him a tomb, so it's not like he ruled over a population of 2 people, so clearly, by the dynamics of the Sith Empire, he was the strongest of a fair population.

Originally posted by Lord Janus
Top Seven?

1- Marka Ragnos
2- Simus, presumably
3- Naga Sadow
4- Ludo Kressh
5- Freedan Nadd, presumably
6- Exar Kun
7- Ulic Qel-Droma.

This exludes Darth Nihilus, because without his super suck ability, he really does suck.

Tulak Hord doesn't make the list? I thought that he might be maybe a little better than Freedon Nadd, though that could be a mistaken impression.

Originally posted by Darth L. Dipsit
Tulak Hord doesn't make the list? I thought that he might be maybe a little better than Freedon Nadd, though that could be a mistaken impression.

We don't know. Freedon Nadd gets pretty underrated around here. Hell, his spirit could instakill a Jedi Master, and yet people give much more credit for Traya doing it than Nadd's ionized air particles -- imagine his physical form.

The fact that people like Ragnos, Nadd, Kun, and Simus could still be powerful in spirit form or head speaks heavily for their power, extremely heavily.

My top 7:

1) Marka Ragnos
2) Simus
3) Naga Sadow
4) Ludo Kressh
5) Freedon Nadd
6) Exar Kun
7) Tulak Hord.

Tulak is as big an unkown as Ajunta Pall, so it's hard to imagine where they would place on this list. Hell, even the most known of the group isn't all that popular -- all of them, however, have exhibited ridiculous powers. We know Sadow could chuck stars at will, and even he could not defeat Kressh outright until he got someone else to do it Kamikaze style.

Ragnos we know beat up on Simus, took power over the Sith Empire, and wasn't even challenged on his death bed. His spirit alone could make Sadow and Kressh stop and give him his respects. Simus was known as the greatest Sith Magician of his time, could still remain a wise and Ancient Sith Lord as a head in a Jar. Sadow had more force powers than NJO Luke has fanboys. Etc., etc.

To be fair, a more precise list would be almost impossible, we simply don't know exactly how they list, except that they were "godlike" figures of immense power.

Yep. Nicely done.

Is that Dark Underlord guy a figment of wikipedia crap or is he really from the Sith Wars. I can't find him anywhere else, so I am started to think he is a fake(besides the gay name).

A lot of those names are suddenly popping up and I suspect they are fake.

Those comics are very rarely read, even around die-hard SW fans. I wouldn't be surprised if he did exist(except for the gay name).

Well, check the sources at the bottom of the page. If it's not sourced, it's bullshit. Period.