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Yeah, the fact that it's wiki only is super suspicious.

When did Nadd instakill a Jedi

Originally posted by atlant80
When did Nadd instakill a Jedi

Nadd (being a spirit) instakilled King Ommin who was powerful enough to keep Arca Jeth as a prisoner. So he's quite powerful.

And well...
- he killed two Jedi Masters when he was a padawan
- then he went to train under Sadow and plundered some tombs on Korriban
- after this he took over a planet on his own aimed with a blaster and a short lightsaber
- if you have a look at the discription of his weapons in KotoR 2 it tells you that his blaster killed more Jedi than every lightsaber known (!)
- and he not only took over the planet on his own he pretty much obliterated the beast masters by using Sith Magic only
- the Jedi send thousands of Jedi to stop him and despite of this fact he remained on Onderon as a spirit for 400 years
- then he manipulated Exar Kun as well as Aleema and Satal Keeto to join the Dark Side until Exar found Sith amuletts and thereby developed enough power to destroy Nadds spirit.

So what ? Nadd has to be goddamn powerful if he can take over a planet on his own, destroy an army with Sith magic, kill only god knows how many Jedi with a blaster (!), stay 400 years as a spirit and after this 400 years be able to manipulate somebody like Kun and instakill quite powerful force users.

Actually he might be weaker (in force powers) than Sadow or Kressh - but not far weaker than them and actually he might pocess better fighting skills when we have a look at what he has done.

wow

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
- if you have a look at the discription of his weapons in KotoR 2 it tells you that his blaster killed more Jedi than every lightsaber known (!)

It doesn't say every lightsaber known, it says any one lightsaber(not in exact words). There is a world of difference between the two.

Which means that he killed more people with a blaster than Revan, Tulak, Malak, Traya, Sion, Nihilus, etc. Did with a lightsaber. Maybe Revan changed weapons occasionally. But nothing can take the steam out out of that accomplishment.

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Nadd (being a spirit) instakilled King Ommin who was powerful enough to keep Arca Jeth as a prisoner. So he's quite powerful.

I have read that it was Ulic, not Nadd, who killed King Ommin. I don't suppose you can give a link.

And Faunus, I that is an exageration. The thought of ANYONE killing more Jedi than anyone else with a blaster doesn't make any sense.

Well, considering he was Ancient Sith Lord, and it was a planetary siege, I don't find it hard to believe. Especially since, by KOTOR times, Sith had only been wielding lightsabers for a millenia or so.

And I doubt it's an exaggeration. You place too much faith in the belief that Revan was a soldier in every single battle he participated in. He wasn't. The Mass Shadow Generator? No lightsaber. The Mandalorian Wars? No Jedi. And of course, all of those aerial conflicts.

Throughout his journeys, he very rarely encountered Jedi in duels, not nearly so much as racial warriors, droids, mercenaries, soldiers, etc. There was the occasional Sith or Dark Jedi challenger, but he never fought a planets worth of them.

Wasn't he was the one who brought knowledge of the force to Onderon though. He defeated an army and then tamed the beast riders. I'm not picking up any Jedi in there.

He fought a planet's worth before his demise, at the very least. Although I believe that upon his arrival on Onderon, the Jedi dispatched an army. I doubt KOTOR 2 would make that big of a mistake.

Originally posted by atlant80
that is still enough, and she didnt lie because the game makers wouldnt give us false info and not clear it up

Agreed. Glentract, the evidence is clearly in Nadd's favor.

Unless you have something really fitting and cited, this debate is pretty much making Nadd out to be better than even I thought he was.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I have read that it was Ulic, not Nadd, who killed King Ommin. I don't suppose you can give a link.

King Ommin was bound to a metal exosceleton. Ulic cut that thing down but Ommin was still alive. Than Nadds spirit showed up and said something like "It enough Ommin" and than took his life.

And Faunus, I that is an exageration. The thought of ANYONE killing more Jedi than anyone else with a blaster doesn't make any sense.

Why ? Who killed most Jedi in the entire history ?

Ragnos, Simus, Sadow and Kressh didn't ever face Jedi in direct combat.
Exar Kun killed...erm...Vodo. Anyone else ?
Ulic killed his brother.
We don't know how many Jedi Revan or Malak killed and notice we are talking about Jedi and not "Dark Jedi" or "Sith". When you listen to the Jedi Masters in KotoR they tell you that most Jedi were killed by assasins or they joined the dark side.

Nadd was the only person that ever faced an army of Jedi that was send to destroy him. Kun kept them away to drain the Massasi and remain as a spirit but Nadd did fight them. So...yes...he could have killed many. And using a short lightsaber and a blaster it's most likely that he blocked their lightsabers with his lightsaber and then shot them to death. Actually he didn't need to kill thousands of Jedi. When it comes to "confirmed kills" there is nobody that killed more than 10 Jedi with a lightsaber (at least nobody that comes to my mind).

Originally posted by Lord Janus
Agreed. Glentract, the evidence is clearly in Nadd's favor.

Unless you have something really fitting and cited, this debate is pretty much making Nadd out to be better than even I thought he was.

Honestly Janus, as powerful as some of the Ancient Sith are, many of them are actually underrated because of movie and game bias.

Sadow is underrated, Kressh is definitely underrated, Simus is underrated, Kun and Nadd are frequently underrated. And you can even argue that in popularity, Ragnos is underrated.

Very true. And it's all because they aren't major components in games or movies.

i thought Nadd sucked man was i wrong

It helps a lot to have someone put it all in bullet point like Nai does. You can single out the major points easier than a lump paragraph or by listening to people debate just a few points.

"When it comes to "confirmed kills" there is nobody that killed more than 10 Jedi with a lightsaber (at least nobody that comes to my mind)."

Darth Vader wiped out the temple then for like 20 years hunted down every jedi in the galaxy and killed them 😛. He missed a confirmed amount of not many 😛.

Originally posted by Kurik Faeli
"When it comes to "confirmed kills" there is nobody that killed more than 10 Jedi with a lightsaber (at least nobody that comes to my mind)."

Darth Vader wiped out the temple then for like 20 years hunted down every jedi in the galaxy and killed them 😛. He missed a confirmed amount of not many 😛.

more than that.

Yoda
Obi-wan
the Jensaarai
Ikrit
Vergere

well, maybe not. there were some that missed the main purge, but he got them a few years later.