Okay, look.
I know precious few of you share my appreciation for Palpatine and what he did. Most of you - the vast majority of you - consider him to be a two-bit politician with no worthwhile skills. I understand that, when you admire other Sith Lords - like Ragnos, Malak, Kun, and Revan.
But Sidious IS a damn good manipulator. Perhaps he is not quite on the level of the overpowered EU Sith Lords (they need a book on Ragnos) - but what he did was GREAT. I don't care what you say. The Empire was the most powerful tyrannical regime in the history of the galaxy. That came from the Star Wars databank. Sure he was damn arrogant. If he hadn't, he'd likely still be ruling the galaxy.
But do you remember Master Yoda - whom you think should be the most powerful Jedi outside of NJO Luke? Sidious used him. He kept his identity secret from Yoda, and the entire Jedi Order, and occupied a damn PLANET with them.
And you think that's NOT good?
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Okay, look.I know precious few of you share my appreciation for Palpatine and what he did. Most of you - the vast majority of you - consider him to be a two-bit politician with no worthwhile skills. I understand that, when you admire other Sith Lords - like Ragnos, Malak, Kun, and Revan.
But Sidious IS a damn good manipulator. Perhaps he is not quite on the level of the overpowered EU Sith Lords (they need a book on Ragnos) - but what he did was GREAT. I don't care what you say. The Empire was the most powerful tyrannical regime in the history of the galaxy. That came from the Star Wars databank. Sure he was damn arrogant. If he hadn't, he'd likely still be ruling the galaxy.
But do you remember Master Yoda - whom you think should be the most powerful Jedi outside of NJO Luke? Sidious used him. He kept his identity secret from Yoda, and the entire Jedi Order, and occupied a damn PLANET with them.
And you think that's NOT good?
Actually I would call the Infinite Empire the most tyrannical regime in the history of the galaxy.
Pfah. The Infinite Empire. That's another damn thing. Why, oh WHY, can't the EU and movies actually consist with one another?
Look. Palpatine has about a dozen (exaggerating) superweapons at his disposal.
Now, it's a stretch saying that the Star Forge could best the Death Star. But if you implement the Tarkin or the Sun Crusher along with the Death Star - the Star Forge is owned.
Yes. OWNED. It won't be able to make more than two ships before the Empire's superweapons blast it into smithereens.
Agreed. DS, it never helps to mindlessly parrot the words of a website that is hotly debated as not being updated, verified, or even consistant within itself. From a certain point of view, I could argue that any regime was more tyrannical. And it would be an opinion. But for it to be a stance in a debate, it must have grounding in fact. And if you intend to argue the point that Sidious' regime was THE most tyrannical, you must prove up. From what I know, the Ratakan regime was much worse. And lasted much longer.
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Pfah. The Infinite Empire. That's another damn thing. Why, oh WHY, can't the EU and movies actually consist with one another?Look. Palpatine has about a dozen (exaggerating) superweapons at his disposal.
Now, it's a stretch saying that the Star Forge could best the Death Star. But if you implement the Tarkin or the Sun Crusher along with the Death Star - the Star Forge is owned.
Yes. OWNED. It won't be able to make more than two ships before the Empire's superweapons blast it into smithereens.
I already argued this to you on another thread; obviously you don't listen very well.
The Death Star took thirty minutes to orbit a gas giant to get into position to fire upon Yavin. You have no idea of its maximum amount of blasts, or even how long the reload time is. You have nothing to indicate that it even uses hyperspace, really. Now, the Star Forge under the control of -one- Force user made a fleet of warships that swept through and easily contested more than half of the Old Republic space. Being operated by at least an inner circle of potent Force users I can only imagine.
The point is, you can't argue conclusively that the Empire could wipe out the Ratakan Empire because the latter's strength isn't measureable at this time. I thought "infinite empire" might have tipped you off there.
The Republic lasted the longest. It must have been the greatest. lol
The GE has two Deathstars, a Deathstar Prototype, the Tarkin, Sun Crusher, World Devastators, Galaxy Gun, Eclipse 1 & 2, Orbital Nightcloaks, the Eye of Palpatine(the first GE superweapon), and the Nostril of Palpatine(just kidding). Reguardless, the GE is to capable,