I'm quite glad that people were saying, straight away, "Nothing."
It's tragic, very. I feel for all involved, but it's not my problem. Just like if it were me, it wouldn't be your problem.
This sorta situation really separates those who take upon themselves huge moral obligations, and those who don't. We're not wrong for not doing anything just because you go out of your way to do SOMETHING.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm quite glad that people were saying, straight away, "Nothing."It's tragic, very. I feel for all involved, but it's not my problem. Just like if it were me, it wouldn't be your problem.
This sorta situation really separates those who take upon themselves huge moral obligations, and those who don't. We're not wrong for not doing anything just because you go out of your way to do SOMETHING.
-AC
Re: What are you doing to help out the victims of hurricane katrina??
Originally posted by Scythe
Some of my band buddies along with five other bands have come together to play a benefit gig, we hope to raise as much money as we can. Now I'm thinking if anyone else is helping out, and if so, what's everyone doing?
While it may not matter to the lot of yahz...I've given blood, sweat and money for the cause in my own backyard. Blood for obvious reasons. Sweat, well I've a fear of needles. And money, well hey! Why not?
And if that makes me a fake as someone so eloquently posed to those that want to help. Then by god, let me wear the mask of ambigiuty and parade around like a mockery to those that mock the mocking bird.
Re: Re: What are you doing to help out the victims of hurricane katrina??
Originally posted by NunYahBidness
While it may not matter to the lot of yahz...I've given blood, sweat and money for the cause in my own backyard. Blood for obvious reasons. Sweat, well I've a fear of needles. And money, well hey! Why not?And if that makes me a fake as someone so eloquently posed to those that want to help. Then by god, let me wear the mask of ambigiuty and parade around like a mockery to those that mock the mocking bird.
I agree whole-heartedly. Some of the posts in this thread highlight the fact that the majority of the members in KMC are ignorant, liittle children - whether their age reflects this or not...
They are so wrapped-up in their anti-bush rhetoric that they fail to see the desperate need for help of these desperate, poor people. America may be the richest nation in the world, but - as recent events have shown - it is a country segregated by lines of racism and wealth. The federal government has been unwilling to immediately release the aid and support that was needed, so it is left to the people of this world to help.
The irony of the whole situation is that the people who condem Bush for his war-mongering are mirroring his aggressive, disdainful behaviour by their lack of empathy for fellow human beings. Bush may be a rotten apple, but they are the maggots gorging themselves all the way to its rotten core.
Supporting the people in New Orleans may not be as 'cool' as helping those who suffered from the Asian Tsunami, but it is just as deserving. Have you seen the pictures and read the stories? If you have, how can you not be affected by such an indiscriminate tragedy?
As I said before, you kids should grow some balls and do what you can to help. It is utterly ridiculous that the guy who started this thread has been attacked for such a earnest idea. As for those calling people 'fake'...apply the 'ball-growing' statement, but add some fertilizer to the mix...You're suffering from antithetic-elephantitis.
Define "what you can".
Because what YOU all can do to help is quite clearly a lot more than me.
It's not my problem. It's severely tragic and I sincerely feel for all those affected by the terrible events, I'm not sitting here saying "Hahahaha! Buy a life raft!" am I? No. I'm being realistic. Before you get on your "If it happened to you..." high horse, I wouldn't expect you to help, nor would I think it's your responsibility. It's not, unless you make it so.
As for people saying "My band and I are playing a show in respect to them". How is that any different from me sitting here showing my verbal concern for them? Those people in New Orleans aren't GAINING anything from either of us. So why is it a difference maker in the degree to which we "say" things? Unless you're donating generous amounts of money or going out there, it's a bit foolish to think you're helping. I bet those people themselves would say that they're thankful for well wishes. Which is exactly what I'm giving them.
I could understand if I or others like me were sitting here poking fun at them, but we're not. We're saying how we feel for those affected and hope they all come out of it as well as they can.
At the end of the day, I'm showing concern for thousands of people I've never met, heard of or cared about. That's enough for me. I'm not exactly going to go and give away my money. This has nothing to do with Bush or anyone else. I wouldn't do it if Ghandi were president.
People need to realise that your choices are just that, yours. I respect that you feel some base need to be altruistic and take some global responsibility, fine. You wanna turn into Captain Planet and the Planeteers, go for it. It doesn't make me bad for not wanting to.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Define "what you can".Because what YOU all can do to help is quite clearly a lot more than me.
It's not my problem. It's severely tragic and I sincerely feel for all those affected by the terrible events, I'm not sitting here saying "Hahahaha! Buy a life raft!" am I? No. I'm being realistic. Before you get on your "If it happened to you..." high horse, I wouldn't expect you to help, nor would I think it's your responsibility. It's not, unless you make it so.
As for people saying "My band and I are playing a show in respect to them". How is that any different from me sitting here showing my verbal concern for them? Those people in New Orleans aren't GAINING anything from either of us. So why is it a difference maker in the degree to which we "say" things? Unless you're donating generous amounts of money or going out there, it's a bit foolish to think you're helping. I bet those people themselves would say that they're thankful for well wishes. Which is exactly what I'm giving them.
I could understand if I or others like me were sitting here poking fun at them, but we're not. We're saying how we feel for those affected and hope they all come out of it as well as they can.
At the end of the day, I'm showing concern for thousands of people I've never met, heard of or cared about. That's enough for me. I'm not exactly going to go and give away my money. This has nothing to do with Bush or anyone else. I wouldn't do it if Ghandi were president.
People need to realise that your choices are just that, yours. I respect that you feel some base need to be altruistic and take some global responsibility, fine. You wanna turn into Captain Planet and the Planeteers, go for it. It doesn't make me bad for not wanting to.
-AC
Don't sweat it AC, I'm in the same country...and I've done even less than you.
Originally posted by Scythe
Some of my band buddies along with five other bands have come together to play a benefit gig, we hope to raise as much money as we can. Now I'm thinking if anyone else is helping out, and if so, what's everyone doing?
The company I work for is setting up a fundrasier for the victims of the disaster. I going to donate at least $50. And later in the week $25 once I get my next paycheck. I was going to donate my time but I'd rather donate some money instead. Non-tax charity of course.
Re: Re: Re: What are you doing to help out the victims of hurricane katrina??
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd FlooWoah, easy there. Steady or you'll fall off your high horse. Maybe you can donate some of your self-righteous indignation to the people of New Orleans since you seem so full of it that it's spouting out of every orifice.
I agree whole-heartedly. Some of the posts in this thread highlight the fact that the majority of the members in KMC are ignorant, liittle children - whether their age reflects this or not...They are so wrapped-up in their anti-bush rhetoric that they fail to see the desperate need for help of these desperate, poor people. America may be the richest nation in the world, but - as recent events have shown - it is a country segregated by lines of racism and wealth. The federal government has been unwilling to immediately release the aid and support that was needed, so it is left to the people of this world to help.
The irony of the whole situation is that the people who condem Bush for his war-mongering are mirroring his aggressive, disdainful behaviour by their lack of empathy for fellow human beings. Bush may be a rotten apple, but they are the maggots gorging themselves all the way to its rotten core.
Supporting the people in New Orleans may not be as 'cool' as helping those who suffered from the Asian Tsunami, but it is just as deserving. Have you seen the pictures and read the stories? If you have, how can you not be affected by such an indiscriminate tragedy?
As I said before, you kids should grow some balls and do what you can to help. It is utterly ridiculous that the guy who started this thread has been attacked for such a earnest idea. As for those calling people 'fake'...apply the 'ball-growing' statement, but add some fertilizer to the mix...You're suffering from antithetic-elephantitis.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriThe same reasoning that one is called delusional for wanting to help I suppose. There is nohting wrong whether one does something or not...But there is something wrong when called such-and-such for wanting to do something.
Not sweating anything, just genuinely asking where people get this flawed idea that I'm a bad person for not doing anything about it.-AC
Now, whether they've said they have and in reality have not...I've no words but to say "Okeeedokeee smokeee."
Originally posted by DeanoGood on yah mate!
i havent helped