And they're going to get mines from where?
If they have inventory like mines (which they rarely ever use except in this video game that conflicts canon in about 85 and a half places), then Ragnos can give all his HK/IG droids equipment to seek out and destroy mines in advance.
Twisting parameters is an endless loop, debate what you have in front of you.
Originally posted by kingkman
Ragnos would not be able to leave the temple because by that time the explosives would have destroyed him.
This simply made no sense. First you say they PRE-BOOBY TRAP the room, then you say Ragnos is already in the temple. So they pre-booby trap the room but it doesn't have any effect until he's in the temple? What's that?
ok obviously you dont understand much so let me take you through step by step. About 68 bby remote photon charges that could be detonated by a button were created. it would not be to hard to get these considering the temple is in coruscant. yoda or mace windu or other great jedi luminaries at that time sense through the force what ragnos is planning and thousands of jedi start setting up these charges around every entrance. ragnos enters like it says at the start of the thread and the charges get detonated. Ragnos dies, so do the hk droids and a small fraction of jedi get caught in the explosion.
The droids aren;t going to do shit. Sure they are MUCH better than Trade Federation droids, but even weak padawans can beat those. Luminara and Bariss could take at least ten of the HK by themselves. Obi-wan could take a lot of them by himself aswell. Plo Koon and Anakin would probably use their form five skill to block all the blaster bolts from the droids and send them back at the droids. The droids aren't going to do much. They are meant to backstab Jedi, like the clones did in ep3. In a straigth fight, they will be no match for the Jedi.
kingkman, I agree with you that Ragnos would lose, but not because of mines. Corran Horn can withstand MASSIVE explosions with a month or so of Jedi training. Read I, Jedi if you don't believe me. He asorbed the energy and sent it in the air. It was large enough for an entire city to see. Sure this was his special power, but Ragnos is a LOT better than Corran Horn.
Weak padawans that DIDN'T beat them. If they were so weak, they woudln't have been effective, especially not in a large group like 70.
yoda or mace windu or other great jedi luminaries at that time sense through the force what ragnos is planning and thousands of jedi start setting up these charges around every entrance.
THEY DON'T HAVE PREP TIME.
You call other people slow? They don't have the time to booby-trap every entrance, particularly because Ragnos and the droids are slaughtering Jedi faster than they can count.
And 68 BBY is irrelevant, we're doing CROSSOVER versus threads.
Hell, if you want to apply it contemporarily, Yoda and Mace didn't even know the existence of a Sith Lord until Maul, they certainly would no way in hell be prepared by someone of Ragnos' caliber, practically the Lord of the Darkside.
You mean to tell me they will sense what they never sensed before, prepare what they've never prepared before (no attack on the Jedi Temple before), use mines they never used before (don't give me the damned ROTS video game crap), make formations they've never made before, take out what they can't take, and detonate what they don't have?
This is Star Wars, not Ocean's Eleven, sorry bud.
Like I said, if you want to apply that kind of logic, we can just assume Ragnos built a rail-gun and blows the Temple off the map, QED.
Do not twist parameters. I'm not going to argue with someone who simply is a broken record with no ears.
Illustrious, many Jedi are going to have a buttload of time to prepare. You have said yourself that Ragnos is going to be advancing against only 4 or 5 Jedi at a time.
And IF Ragnos has the power that you claim, then he WILL be felt by every Jedi the second he sets foot on Coruscant.
You are the deaf one.
Sidious was more powerful than practically any Jedi, and yet they couldn't "feel" him.
Since when has power directly correlated into how much they "feel"? Power is more like a pipeline, a larger pipeline doesn't mean more gas leaks out.
And still, this is a versus thread, this isn't "Ragnos flies from Korriban and takes out the Jedi Temple. None of the Jedi can stop time. None of them have time to booby trap the thing while Ragnos is slaughtering you.
Do you know WHY only 4-5 Jedi can attack Ragnos at a time? Because Ragnos and the droids will keep a lot more occupied, only 4-5 will even be able to get within melee range of Ragnos, and they will be cleaved apart, easily.
Originally posted by kingkman
"faunus you can cool me a noob and idiot, dumbass and maybe even stupid but you know none of it is true. I can completely 100% say that i am a better debater than you. you know it, i know it, everybody knows it. you still havent answered me by the way about how ragnos will do this with all the charges, im waiting" - you still havent answered this and there are plenty more but how about you do it one at a time
I've answered this twice already, despite the fact that it is completely against whatever rules exist here.
There are NO mines. There is NO prep time. Ragnos suddenly appears at the doors of the Temple with an army of super-droids, knocks down the door, and the battle begins.
Originally posted by kingkman
fishy you are not allowed to add people into this thread but the fact is bombs and demolitions are inventory and like lightsabers, you do not have to include the inventory in the name of the thread for them to be used and so the characters in each thread would be allowed to use any inventory that he could possibly have and the jedi temple would definitely have explosives whereas in the name of the thread, i dont see exar kun or any other people that you mentioned so wrong again fishy. And yoda would be able to sense him coming. He would actually be in the temple, probably meditating hours before ragnos came and would eb able to sense him come.
Yeah. All those bombs and demolitions Jedi are using all the time - they must have some huge depot of that stuff in the Jedi temple. Fact is we never saw a Jedi use a weapon not being a blaster or a lightsaber. Ups..
Yoda wasn't able to sense Sidious and Ragnos was more powerful than Sidious probably able to do the same thing.