Ragnos temple purge

atlant80, you're not helping the Ragnos side of this by sparing with Glentract, when you are making mass assumptions. The point is, Ragnos is hella powerful. End point. And he didn't attack the Republic because he is a visionary and very damn intelligent. He wanted a unified, strong Sith Empire, which meant unified against him. But they could not usurp his throne, so great was his power. You might say he wasn't afraid of the Jedi or the Republic so much as he was afraid of the idiocy of his minions unravelling his work, which it did.

Glentract, I realize atlant80 is making some pretty wild assumptions right about now, but you sparing with him doesn't make you an intellectual powerhouse. This has already been debated and until you can offer a new view or evidence contrary to Ragnos' considerable power, his status is effectively secure. End point.

yes im makeing alot of assumptions but you have to say that they are not stupid. and yea you are saying what i meant about not going to war. And BTW thanks for the awsome sig! 😄

You're welcome. Just keep your nose dry and don't get too carried away. Someone like Glentract or Illustrious or myself will likely call you on it.

But you have to agree some one like Ragnos can do alot of things.

Could potentially, yes. But to say it as fact is silly. I have nothing to base it on other then his reputation, even if it is a damn good one. I mean, Sidious was arguably unchallenged in his day and age (even if Sith didn't really exist then as they did in Ragnos'😉 but I couldn't use that as a basis and claim he can implode stars.

But we know Naga didnt challenge him and Simus, the greatest Sith magician, got pwn3d by Ragnos. What we are 99% sure of is that Ragnos can blow stars and planets to dust, so saying he can make force shields is probably true. Of course that is just an assumption but not a wild one. In fact it is very (90%) possible. But, yea its and assumption.

Where was Simus ever stated to be the greatest Sith magician? He might have not exactly been pwned by Ragnos either. It is probably that it was a very close fight. I'd also don't think it's 99% sure Ragnos can destroy a star. That ability may have been specific to Sadow. Exar needed help from something off of Naga's ship to do it.

Simus was one of the most powerful of his era. Wiki. One way or another Ragnos beat him. Naga was weaker then Ragnos hence way he didnt challenge him. Naga could blow up stars so probably Ragnos could. Even is it is a power specific to Naga (i highly doubt that) Exar needed HELP a sith artifact or something. You probably need sith magic which Ragnos knows for sure. I love arguing 😄 😄 😄

First off, you have nothing to support either of those powers to Ragnos again, atlant80. I already dismissed this. You cannot back it up, please don't assume it.

Glentract, are you out on a crusade to discredit Ragnos? You might want to rethink it, because Frobo and ER haven't been around lately and it'd just be you and maybe some transient noob arguing against Ragnos and everyone else arguing for him.

what fun is it if you dont makeassumptions that are in fact very possible

It's no fun saying that Ragnos can make Force shields when you have no idea if they exist or how they are made. There's a fine line between 'inference' and 'make believe'.

Force Shields? What is this, Star Trek?

I'm not trying to discredit Ragnos personally. I know he is the most powerful single being in the SW univrse, but we are talking him against over ten thousand Jedi! There is no way he could win.

1500 younglings 2500 padawans 5000 knights 1000 masters i think its around that

well Glentract, yes I agree with you that Ragnos could not take on
10 000 at the same time. However, you seem to forget that he would not face them all at the same time, some of them would be in the library, some would be in the council rooms, some would be sleeping, some would be in the sparring rooms, some would be meditating etc. I think that he would at most only have to kill 100 jedi at one time all teamed up against him. I know that is still a lot but remember that he has 70 droids on his side, each of which would be the equal of any padawan and close to a knight. Also, remember that the whole temple is not full of masters, yes they had 10 000 jedi, but masters were rare, say 2000 of them, and probably 4000 to 5000 knights. All the rest would be weak padawans. Also, some of the knights would be weak, not every knight is an Anakin Skywalker and not every master is an Obi-Wan Kenobi, some would be Coleman Trebors. Ragnos could certainly win this

100 is not that much all Ragnos would have to do is use the force to lift up 100 pebels and fire them at the jedi at lightspeed. (come on if he cant do that then Kun is stronger then him)

He doesn't have to face all of them at the same time to win. The Brotherhood of the Sith used a power that allowed all of them to channel their energy into Darth Bane. He was able to seriously eff up the Army of the Light during this time. These were like 20 powerful Sith Lords. This technique isn't inherently evil, so I don't find it hard for at least some Jedi to know it. If it's possible, imagine Yoda even if he had just Mace, Obi-wan, Anakin, Plo Koon, Ki-Adi Mundi, and Luminara channeling all of their power into him. That's bascily Anakin at full potential because this would give Yoda all of his energy. Marka is screwed.

hahahahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa prove that the jedi can do that and if you cant dont make assumptions 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😂 😂 😂 😛

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
He doesn't have to face all of them at the same time to win. The Brotherhood of the Sith used a power that allowed all of them to channel their energy into Darth Bane. He was able to seriously eff up the Army of the Light during this time. These were like 20 powerful Sith Lords. This technique isn't inherently evil, so I don't find it hard for at least some Jedi to know it. Imagine Yoda even if he had just Mace, Obi-wan, Anakin, Plo Koon, Ki-Adi Mundi, and Luminara channeling all of their power into him. That's bascily Anakin at full potential because this would give Yoda all of his energy. Marka is screwed.

This is wrong. For one thing, you are making the same type of assumption you just criticed atlant80 for... You have no way of knowing the jedi knew the technique, since it was last used at the Battle of Ruusan. When and why would more then a hnadful of jedi be at any place that required such a technique in the Pax Republica?

Second, the technique used mass amounts of DARK SIDE energy to smite the opposing army. This is an aggressive and dark side power as used and the jedi wouldn't or couldn't replicate it. Stop grabbing at straws.

Ohh. I thought it just channeled their energy.