Bruenor: Wolverine punts the little guy. Bruenor's not nearly fast enough, doesn't have the versatility, and is getting too close to old age to handle Wolverine. Wolverine 9.9/10
Wolfgar: Wolfgar? Wolfgar? For all his bulk, he's no stronger then human potential. Wolverine doesn't even have to be quick, he can outpower Wolfgar at his own game. Aegis Fang could do some damage, especially if Wolfgar throws it, but a blunt attack won't do anything to Wolverine's adamantium skeleton. Wolverine 9/10
Cattie-Brie: She has a better chance then the other two, thanks to her bow. Wolverine needs to get close, obviously, so the outcome of this fight really depends on the terrain. Since nothing specific was given, I'll just assume it's a flat terrain (heh heh). Wolverine's petanatural speed will allow him to quickly close the distance to Cattie Brie, and then nothing can save her. Wolverine 7/10
Drizzt is a much more intense fight, obv. I'll need to mull that one over, but I've got to get going atm.
Originally posted by Piedmon
Cattie-Brie: She has a better chance then the other two, thanks to her bow. Wolverine needs to get close, obviously, so the outcome of this fight really depends on the terrain. Since nothing specific was given, I'll just assume it's a flat terrain (heh heh). Wolverine's petanatural speed will allow him to quickly close the distance to Cattie Brie, and then nothing can save her. Wolverine 7/10
Agreed with the others... But I don't think Kazid'hea has EVER failed to cut something before. Even Guenhwyvar's statue got cut in half pretty easily. Sentient swords rule. Especially Lilarcor. I don't think I ever got rid of him, just because he's funny. He contrasts Sarevok oh so well...
Originally posted by PiedmonDrizzt is a much more intense fight, obv. I'll need to mull that one over, but I've got to get going atm.
But seriously.....there is nothing to mull over here......Drizzt would bring Wolverine down......and he'd do it fast and hard 😬 As much as i love Logan, he's just not a match for the dhaerow.
And if we put prep into this it just gets too nasty for PG-13 ❌
Dizzle: Are we gonna go kill something? huh? Huh? no? How bout now? no? How bout now? 😱
😂
~wickerman~
Get your head checked, Pinktextman.....
For all his skill, Drizzt is extremely vulnerable. Slice open his stomach, he's dead. Slit his throat, he's dead. Stab an artery, or major organ, he's dead. Slice his hamstrings, he's crippled.
Drizzt's anklets allow him extra speed, it's true, but he has never displayed any feats of speed that would outclass Wolverine. And certainly, he's nowhere near as strong: if they cross blades, Wolverine can easily press Drizzt back.
Drizzt is skilled enough to keep it from becoming a contest of sheer strength, of course. But Wolverine is just as well versed in the Martial Arts (I think Drizzt is something like 90 years old? Hell, that would make Wolverine older then him!)
Yes, Wolverine's going to get cut. So what? Adamantium is NOT adamantite. D&D has never seen a metal like Wolverine's bones. Drizzt couldn't hope to penetrate Wolverine's skeleton: even IF his swords were strong enough (which I'd never believe), Drizzt himself would most definitely lack the strength to push it through (much like Wolverine can never pierce the Hulk's skin.)
Yeah, Drizzt could slice Wolverine's vitals open enough to kill him. But that would take multiple strikes in very hard to reach places. Wolverine can guard his vitals, that's what martial arts training means. And he has the added advantage of not having to worry about his less important body parts altogether.
Of course, there's Guenwhyvar. Again, no big deal. Wolverine eats grizzly bears and indian tigers for breakfast. Both those animals would murder a panther. He would be hard pressed if the duo flanked him. He'd pretty much have to allow one to slice him open in order to focus on the other. Working as a team, their chances against Wolverine improve dramatically, especially if Guenwhyvar did something like let Wolverine strike her to present Drizzt an opening (she can always be resummoned later.)
Drizzt's magic powers are not so useful. Globe of darkness? Wolverine practices blindfolded all the time, and has learned to rely completely on his senses of hearing, touch, and smell. It would afford Drizzt no advantage. (On the other hand, Wolverine's stealth training as a government operative might allow him to take advantage of pitch darkness.)
Faerie Fire? I never understood why seeing your opponent's outline better makes them easier to hit, but Wolverine doesn't have to worry about minor cuts and slices anyway.
Drizzt's best shot is double-teaming Wolverine with his pet panther. Other then that, he's really overmatched. Wolverine 6/10.
Originally posted by Piedmon
Get your head checked, Pinktextman.....For all his skill, Drizzt is extremely vulnerable. Slice open his stomach, he's dead. Slit his throat, he's dead. Stab an artery, or major organ, he's dead. Slice his hamstrings, he's crippled.
Drizzt's anklets allow him extra speed, it's true, but he has never displayed any feats of speed that would outclass Wolverine. And certainly, he's nowhere near as strong: if they cross blades, Wolverine can easily press Drizzt back.
Drizzt is skilled enough to keep it from becoming a contest of sheer strength, of course. But Wolverine is just as well versed in the Martial Arts (I think Drizzt is something like 90 years old? Hell, that would make Wolverine older then him!)
Yes, Wolverine's going to get cut. So what? Adamantium is NOT adamantite. D&D has never seen a metal like Wolverine's bones. Drizzt couldn't hope to penetrate Wolverine's skeleton: even IF his swords were strong enough (which I'd never believe), Drizzt himself would most definitely lack the strength to push it through (much like Wolverine can never pierce the Hulk's skin.)
Yeah, Drizzt could slice Wolverine's vitals open enough to kill him. But that would take multiple strikes in very hard to reach places. Wolverine can guard his vitals, that's what martial arts training means. And he has the added advantage of not having to worry about his less important body parts altogether.
Of course, there's Guenwhyvar. Again, no big deal. Wolverine eats grizzly bears and indian tigers for breakfast. Both those animals would murder a panther. He would be hard pressed if the duo flanked him. He'd pretty much have to allow one to slice him open in order to focus on the other. Working as a team, their chances against Wolverine improve dramatically, especially if Guenwhyvar did something like let Wolverine strike her to present Drizzt an opening (she can always be resummoned later.)
Drizzt's magic powers are not so useful. Globe of darkness? Wolverine practices blindfolded all the time, and has learned to rely completely on his senses of hearing, touch, and smell. It would afford Drizzt no advantage. (On the other hand, Wolverine's stealth training as a government operative might allow him to take advantage of pitch darkness.)
Faerie Fire? I never understood why seeing your opponent's outline better makes them easier to hit, but Wolverine doesn't have to worry about minor cuts and slices anyway.
Drizzt's best shot is double-teaming Wolverine with his pet panther. Other then that, he's really overmatched. Wolverine 6/10.
Riiiight,.......let's take a look at characteristics right? Now this is how it goes. a 10-12 is considered average human.
Drizzt's strength is 13. His Dexterity, which implies speed and hand-eye coordination is 20. Want feats? How about tossing 10 coins into the air at the same time and catching them all before they hit the ground. Without looking. Oh.....i forgot to mention 18 is considered peak human, and Wolverine despite what you may think, isn't above peak human 😬
Oh....what else? Right.....Drizzt's Intelligence and Wisdom which are both 17.....hmmm.....what would that tell us? 🙄
Now.....you have NO way of knowing if Drizzt's weapons would cut through the adamantium or if Wolverine's claws would cut through Drizzt's weapons. In case you forgot, both weapons are heavily enchanted. Not only are they magical in nature, but icingdeath, one of his scimitars also deals enough cold with every touch to kill an average person. His other scimitar, Twinkle is a defending scimitar....know what that means? It means that if his incredible skills weren't enough he's also further protected by his sword.
Wolverine CAN pierce Hulk's skin. It just regenerates so fast you don't even notice he even pierced it. He can't pierce Colossus' organic steel form.
Drizzt can go into a rage.....hey guess what....his formerly 13 strength turns into 17....not so very far from Wolverine's......hey guess what....his constitution which basically means durability and stamina gets to 19. Above peak human.
Feel free to advocate Wolverine's win, but Drizzt's been fighting things like:
Creatures that are the most powerful telepaths in his world....he's fought Matron Mothers, basically powerful clerics (think of Dr. Strange. Now tone him down alot). You know....pacts with demons and such....waging war....you know.....yeah, he's beaten on them.
The guy's slain DRAGONS mon ami.....Not little wussy dragons....DRAGONS. Wolverine may eat grizzly bears and tigers for breakfast, Drizzt eats dragons for breakfast.
Get your head checked Mr. "Wolverineavatar" eyes
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Magic_attack
Wicker- U remember that one issue of B.S. comics where Wolvie beat the demon that Loki sent after him? Doesnt that count for something...
I think that was issue 1367.....right?
You mean the demon made of organic fanboyism? Heck....it even made Wolvie stronger.....yeah....in that case i concede 😂
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
Riiiight,.......let's take a look at characteristics right? Now this is how it goes. a 10-12 is considered average human.Drizzt's strength is 13. His Dexterity, which implies speed and hand-eye coordination is 20. Want feats? How about tossing 10 coins into the air at the same time and catching them all before they hit the ground. Without looking. Oh.....i forgot to mention 18 is considered peak human, and Wolverine despite what you may think, isn't above peak human 😬
Right.... no body builder on this planet can chuck a saber through the hull of a stuka dive-bomber, k?
Oh....what else? Right.....Drizzt's Intelligence and Wisdom which are both 17.....hmmm.....what would that tell us? 🙄
Unless he has a duelist prestige class, that won't help him in a sword fight....
Now.....you have NO way of knowing if Drizzt's weapons would cut through the adamantium or if Wolverine's claws would cut through Drizzt's weapons. In case you forgot, both weapons are heavily enchanted. Not only are they magical in nature, but icingdeath, one of his scimitars also deals enough cold with every touch to kill an average person. His other scimitar, Twinkle is a defending scimitar....know what that means? It means that if his incredible skills weren't enough he's also further protected by his sword.
I know what it means.... do you know what a healing factor does? It allows Wolverine to withstand (and function quite well) in temperatures both above and below what a human can handle. Like when he was going after the Hunter in Darkness in Canada, he didn't need warm clothing because his healing factor took care of it.
And it's funny how I can't seem to recall Artemis Entreri dying of hypothermia whenever Drizzt cut him....
Wolverine CAN pierce Hulk's skin. It just regenerates so fast you don't even notice he even pierced it. He can't pierce Colossus' organic steel form.
I doubt Colossus is denser then Hulk....
Drizzt can go into a rage.....hey guess what....his formerly 13 strength turns into 17....not so very far from Wolverine's......hey guess what....his constitution which basically means durability and stamina gets to 19. Above peak human.
Um, you know, if I have a level 1 fighter, and let's say I get lucky and roll an 18 for his constitution right off the bat, and then he hits level 4 and I put his new stat point in constitution..... does that make my level 4 fighter super-human? ¬¬
And I can't believe you're saying Wolverine has "peak human endurance." The guy can run top speed for hours over Canadian mountains and never get tired. He can go through hundreds, thousands of opponents and not get tired or slow down. Wolverine's cells regenerate so fast that he can just keep going, and going, and going.
Feel free to advocate Wolverine's win, but Drizzt's been fighting things like:
Creatures that are the most powerful telepaths in his world....he's fought Matron Mothers, basically powerful clerics (think of Dr. Strange. Now tone him down alot). You know....pacts with demons and such....waging war....you know.....yeah, he's beaten on them.
The guy's slain DRAGONS mon ami.....Not little wussy dragons....DRAGONS. Wolverine may eat grizzly bears and tigers for breakfast, Drizzt eats dragons for breakfast.
Get your head checked Mr. "Wolverineavatar" eyes
~wickerman~[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
If Drizzt didn't have a cold sword, you know a dragon could just snort and cook him, right.
If Salvatore had written the Mind Flayers to their full potential, Drizzt wouldn't have made it out of their city alive. He had Drizzt kick one in the nuts, for chrissake.
btw, Bezerker Rage >>>> Hunter Mode. Feral Drizzt's dangerous, sure, but is he the equivelant of an olympic athlete going through his routine at full speed while simultaneously beating five chess masters in his head?
Originally posted by Piedmon
[/color]Right.... no body builder on this planet can chuck a saber through the hull of a stuka dive-bomber, k?
Unless he has a duelist prestige class, that won't help him in a sword fight....
I know what it means.... do you know what a healing factor does? It allows Wolverine to withstand (and function quite well) in temperatures both above and below what a human can handle. Like when he was going after the Hunter in Darkness in Canada, he didn't need warm clothing because his healing factor took care of it.
And it's funny how I can't seem to recall Artemis Entreri dying of hypothermia whenever Drizzt cut him....
I doubt Colossus is denser then Hulk....
Um, you know, if I have a level 1 fighter, and let's say I get lucky and roll an 18 for his constitution right off the bat, and then he hits level 4 and I put his new stat point in constitution..... does that make my level 4 fighter super-human? ¬¬
And I can't believe you're saying Wolverine has "peak human endurance." The guy can run top speed for hours over Canadian mountains and never get tired. He can go through hundreds, thousands of opponents and not get tired or slow down. Wolverine's cells regenerate so fast that he can just keep going, and going, and going.
Feel free to advocate Wolverine's win, but Drizzt's been fighting things like:
Creatures that are the most powerful telepaths in his world....he's fought Matron Mothers, basically powerful clerics (think of Dr. Strange. Now tone him down alot). You know....pacts with demons and such....waging war....you know.....yeah, he's beaten on them.
The guy's slain DRAGONS mon ami.....Not little wussy dragons....DRAGONS. Wolverine may eat grizzly bears and tigers for breakfast, Drizzt eats dragons for breakfast.Get your head checked Mr. "Wolverineavatar" eyes
~wickerman~[/COLOR]
If Drizzt didn't have a cold sword, you know a dragon could just snort and cook him, right.
If Salvatore had written the Mind Flayers to their full potential, Drizzt wouldn't have made it out of their city alive. He had Drizzt kick one in the nuts, for chrissake.
btw, Bezerker Rage >>>> Hunter Mode. Feral Drizzt's dangerous, sure, but is he the equivelant of an olympic athlete going through his routine at full speed while simultaneously beating five chess masters in his head? [/B][/QUOTE]
That is the way he was last presented. Without Duelist or anything.....unfortunately. there was supposed to be a more recent release by WoTC of Drizzt's stats....but i never found it. They might've included Swashbuckler. So no, while the intelligence doesn't directly add to damage, it works.....as intelligence works usually.....as in strategic analysis of a situation, and finding the optimal sollution.
Assuming your DM has a huge heart and actually lets you people roll for stats (i'd shoot him with a hammer 😉 ) instead of point buy, then yeah....any character with above 18 in any sort of ability is considered super human. That is why adventurers are exactly that......adventurers.
Wolverine's cells do NOT regenerate so fast that he can just keep going, and going, and going. You can say his healing factor automatically removes the lactic acid build-up from his body if you want though. That would make a lot more sense. And what i meant by endurance was durability, not stamina. He has stamina alright. And you can say he also has durability....but although i might advocate the use of intensive PIS in his stories as a show of consistancy (EG: fights with Hulk), i don't see him as an extremely durable character. Also remember his fights with Cap. America and how they end up. And Cap. America is peak human.
Artemis isn't what i'd call "Average person" now is he? 😂 And i'm also pretty sure Artemis had some sort of magical protection that Wolverine doesn't benefit from. Not that itwould bring him down, but it WOULD be one more chunk of damage Drizzt would be dealing.
Yeah, they would. And if Wolverine didn't have an adamantium skeleton, he'd be dead.
Is Drizzt the equivelant of an olympic athlete going through his routine at full speed while simultaneously beating five chess masters in his head while in Rage mode? Let's see....his intelligence and wisdom remain high enough to do that....and his physical attributes go above whats needed for the olympics....so yes. 😄
Oh....would you also like me to take out the Weapons and Equipment guide and cite just how much damage wolverine's claws would do? *barely doesn't burst into roaring laughter*
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
That is the way he was last presented. Without Duelist or anything.....unfortunately. there was supposed to be a more recent release by WoTC of Drizzt's stats....but i never found it. They might've included Swashbuckler. So no, while the intelligence doesn't directly add to damage, it works.....as intelligence works usually.....as in strategic analysis of a situation, and finding the optimal sollution.
Yeah, I thought it was dumb they didn't make Drizzt and Artemis duelists..... and giving Arty a level of Assassin was pointless, I've never seen him use Death Touch in the books....
Assuming your DM has a huge heart and actually lets you people roll for stats (i'd shoot him with a hammer 😉 ) instead of point buy, then yeah....any character with above 18 in any sort of ability is considered super human. That is why adventurers are exactly that......adventurers.
If I wasn't so lazy, I'd get my Player's Handbook and see. But I'm pretty sure no 19 STR char of mine ever lifted a truck or smashed apart a steel wall....
Wolverine's cells do NOT regenerate so fast that he can just keep going, and going, and going. You can say his healing factor automatically removes the lactic acid build-up from his body if you want though. That would make a lot more sense. And what i meant by endurance was durability, not stamina. He has stamina alright. And you can say he also has durability....but although i might advocate the use of intensive PIS in his stories as a show of consistancy (EG: fights with Hulk), i don't see him as an extremely durable character. Also remember his fights with Cap. America and how they end up. And Cap. America is peak human.
However, Cap is peak "Comic Book Human," and yes, that's different than "real world human." Captain America can fight and run practically endlessly as well, far beyond what I guarantee any real person is capable of. Cap is above any olympic athlete to ever preform, and for the real world, those guys ARE peak human.
Artemis isn't what i'd call "Average person" now is he? 😂 And i'm also pretty sure Artemis had some sort of magical protection that Wolverine doesn't benefit from. Not that itwould bring him down, but it WOULD be one more chunk of damage Drizzt would be dealing.
I don't have Artemis's stats to look at, but as far as R.A Salvatore has let us know, his only magical items are Charon's Claw and the Vampiric Dagger. That's it. And there is just no way Artemis Entreri has superior resistance/toughness to Wolverine.
Yeah, they would. And if Wolverine didn't have an adamantium skeleton, he'd be dead.
If Wolverine didn't have an adamantium skeleton, his healing factor would actually work even faster.
Is Drizzt the equivelant of an olympic athlete going through his routine at full speed while simultaneously beating five chess masters in his head while in Rage mode? Let's see....his intelligence and wisdom remain high enough to do that....and his physical attributes go above whats needed for the olympics....so yes. 😄
Well, I said this would be a good fight.
But when has Drizzt ever done anything that an olympic athlete could never replicate? Salvatore keeps his stuff fairly realistic. Drizzt doesn't jump between roof tops like Daredevil, or run up sheer walls, he's rather down-to-earth.
Oh....would you also like me to take out the Weapons and Equipment guide and cite just how much damage wolverine's claws would do? *barely doesn't burst into roaring laughter*~wickerman~
An adamantium pocket knife would cut through armor and flesh more easily then the finest damascene sword ever produced. There's nothing in a D&D manual to reflect Wolverine's claws.
Drizzt beats dragons, wolverine is crap compared to dragons.
Its that simple....
Dragon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolverine.
I'm not talking about how wolverine "hangs" with lah blah blah, I'm talking about ownage.
Drizzt gets his enchanted blade in the right spot wolverine loses.