What is bigger...Your mind or the Universe?

Started by Lord Follen11 pages

Originally posted by King Kandy
"and what if it did? gaseous material are still particles and all life are created in atoms and cells down to the smallest bacteria thats is how THEORY'S are created."
Life is different from Gaseous substance.Life did not develop intil after gaseous substance. It is on this basis that you are incorrect.
no no no see i wasnt stating which was created first... i was stating that all things are made up of the same atoms and such compleate with protons nutrons and electrons

Originally posted by Lord Follen
no no no see i wasnt stating which was created first... i was stating that all things are made up of the same atoms and such compleate with protons nutrons and electrons

But the gaseous substances had no sentience, and thus could perceive nothing...

omg..... im not talking about the gas having brains!!!!!

Originally posted by Lord Follen
omg..... im not talking about the gas having brains!!!!!

You said "For something to exist it whas to first be perceived"...

yes and people have perceived gas is there and it is there through studies and your pulling everything way out of context

Originally posted by Lord Follen
yes and people have perceived gas is there and it is there through studies and your pulling everything way out of context

But gas existed before there was anything to perceive it... There can be no origin if there must first be perception.

....... you are very annoying (sigh)

Originally posted by Lord Follen
....... you are very annoying (sigh)

It's highly possible that I'm not seeing your position at all, and that it was so badly worded that I misinterpreted what you said.

no... you just twist it in your mind or that no one sees my logical thinking...

Your theory is not logical. Your thinking may be, but the way you said it certainly did not follow logic.

omg you are very behind in meaning... i did state my thinking in the first place not theory, if i was to say theory i would have put the word theory instead of the word thinking...

The Universe....

Our minds have greater limits....the limits of the Universe are unknown.

The Power of Imagination has no limits.

Point for Mind.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The Power of Imagination has no limits.

Point for Mind.

The Universe has factual existence.

Point for Universe.

But then again if there is no mind to interpret all that information then is pointless.

Mind still is needed to understand.

Two points for mind.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
But then again if there is no mind to interpret all that information then is pointless.

Mind still is needed to understand.

Two points for mind.

If there is no Universe there can't be minds. They only exist in our Universe.

Two points for Universe.

We know there is a universe because our minds have arrive at that conclusion. If we go back to first cause then science tells us this universe came first. But since this is a philosophical discussion we conclude that without a mind...we know nothing.

Touchdown!

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
We know there is a universe because our minds have arrive at that conclusion. If we go back to first cause then science tells us this universe came first. But since this is a philosophical discussion we conclude that without a mind...we know nothing.

Touchdown!

From a scientific point of view we also assume that our Universe does not care whether or not our Mind acknowledges it and understand the utter insignificance of the mind.

Game - Set - Match Universe

Of course the universe doesn't care what we are or what we think. It's just a bunch of hydrogen and nitrogen and all that stuff combine. Whereas our minds have the following features:

Intellect
Consciousness
Thought
Perception
Emotion
Will and of course Imagination

I think Mind gets a better deal. At least for us humans.

Time to hit the showers.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Of course the universe doesn't care what we are or what we think. It's just a bunch of hydrogen and nitrogen and all that stuff combine. Whereas our minds have the following features:

Intellect
Consciousness
Thought
Perception
Emotion
Will and of course Imagination

I think Mind gets a better deal. At least for us humans.

Time to hit the showers.

Actually, I dig the mind. I am still not sure how we can actually compare the two though.

May I shower with you and your boys anyways?