Not if there are enough of them:
Round 1:
1) Yoda -- Darth Glentract (Clne Troopers - 4000)
2) Marka Ragnos -- Lord Darkstar (Elite Sith Soldiers - 150)
3) Count Dooku -- Se7in (Super Battle Droids - 3000)
7) Anakin Skywalker -- Jester Mereel (Shock Troopers - 5000)
8) Exar Kun -- BlackVortex (Massassi Warriors - 2000)
9) Master Kavar -- Nai Fohl (Republic Soldiers - 4500)
10) Mace Windu -- Lord Simus (Geonosis Knights - 500)
11) Luke Skywalker -- ESB-1138 (New Republic Soldiers - 4000)
12) Malak -- Fishy (Star Forge Droids - 2000)
Round 2:
1.13) Obi-Wan Kenobi (ANH) -- Fishy (Desert Mercenaries - 5000)
1.14) General Grievous -- Jester Mereel (IG-1000 MagnaGuards - 1000)
1.15) Xanatos -- BlackVortex (Assorted Heavyweight Brawlers - ?)
1.16) Freedon Nadd -- Nai Fohl (Beast Riders - 2000)
1.17) Darth Bane -- Se7in (Sith Duelists - 300)
1.18) Darth Traya -- Lord Darkstar (Sith Apprentices - 250)
1.19) Darth Vader -- ESB-1138 (Shock Troopers - 5000)
1.20) Darth Maul -- Lord Simus (TDF Battle droids - 4000)
1.21) Joruus C'Baoth -- Darth Glentract (Storm Troopers - 4500)
Round 3:
1.25) Lord Hoth -- Darth Glentract (Corellia) Minor Jedi Knights - 600
1.26) Vodo Siosk-Bass -- Lord Simus (Coruscant) Jedi Apprentices - 600
1.27) Kyle Katarn -- Nai Fohl (Onderon) Coruscant Mercenaries - 4000
1.28) Ulic Qel-Droma -- Lord Darkstar (Malachor V) Krath Elite troopers - ?
1.29) Jerec -- ESB-1138 (*Random*) Storm Troopers - 5000
1.30) Sion -- Jester Mereel (*Random*) Sith Assassins - 300
1.31) DS Bastila -- Fishy (Kashyyyk) Minor Dark Jedi - 400
1.32) Quinlin Vos -- BlackVortex (Yavin IV) Clone Troopers - 5000
Something like that, tweak around the figures.
And now the numbers. However, to make these planetary invasions reasonable, I'd like to up the scales a bit. But, we'll build up later,if the idea is accepted.
Round 1:
1) Yoda -- Darth Glentract (Clone Troopers) - 5,000
2) Marka Ragnos -- Lord Darkstar (Elite Sith Soldiers) - 750
3) Count Dooku -- Se7in (Super Battle Droids) - 4,500
7) Anakin Skywalker -- Jester Mereel (Shock Troopers) - 4,500
8) Exar Kun -- BlackVortex (Massassi Warriors) - 1,500
9) Master Kavar -- Nai Fohl (Republic Soldiers) - 5,500
10) Mace Windu -- Lord Simus (Geonosis Knights) - 750
11) Luke Skywalker -- ESB-1138 (New Republic Soldiers) - 5,000
12) Malak -- Fishy (Star Forge Droids) - 750
Round 2:
1.13) Obi-Wan Kenobi (ANH) -- Fishy (Desert Mercenaries) - 1,500
1.14) General Grievous -- Jester Mereel (IG-1000 MagnaGuards) - 750
1.15) Xanatos -- BlackVortex (Assorted Heavyweight Brawlers) - 1,500
1.16) Freedon Nadd -- Nai Fohl (Beast Riders) - 2,500 ???
1.17) Darth Bane -- Se7in (Sith Duelists) - 750
1.18) Darth Traya -- Lord Darkstar (Sith Apprentices) - 300
1.19) Darth Vader -- ESB-1138 (Shock Troopers) - 4,000
1.20) Darth Maul -- Lord Simus (TDF Battle droids) - 7,000
1.21) Joruus C'Baoth -- Darth Glentract (Storm Troopers) - 5,000
Round 3:
1.25) Lord Hoth -- Darth Glentract (Corellia) Minor Jedi Knights - 650
1.26) Vodo Siosk-Bass -- Lord Simus (Coruscant) Jedi Apprentices - 700
1.27) Kyle Katarn -- Nai Fohl (Onderon) Coruscant Mercenaries - 1500
1.28) Ulic Qel-Droma -- Lord Darkstar (Malachor V) Krath Elite troopers - 1000
1.29) Jerec -- ESB-1138 (*Random*) Storm Troopers - 4,000
1.30) Sion -- Jester Mereel (*Random*) Sith Assassins - 500
1.31) DS Bastila -- Fishy (Kashyyyk) Minor Dark Jedi - 700
1.32) Quinlin Vos -- BlackVortex (Yavin IV) Clone Troopers - 5,500
This needs some assistance, since I'm not too sure about the numbers myself.
Okay. What about dark jedi? Bastila has more of those, but not enough more to make a full different point value make it equal I believe.
I got nothing to do for a while. If you want, if you give me some a list of how powerful each unit it, I'll make a list of numbers that make each army relavtivly equal.
Faunus never responded if he wanted me to do this or not, but I did it anyway. The sides aren't all exactly equal, but that's to keep numbers pretty round(no 3423 ect.). They are within ten percent of any other army. If I made any huge errors, whatever, I've already done my part on this. lol.
Clone Troopers- 2 points
Elite Sith Soliders- 4 points
Super Battle Droids- 3 points
Shock Troopers- 3 points
Massassi Warriors- 8 points
Republic Soliders- 2 points
Genosian Knights- 5 points
New Republic Solider- 2 points
Star Forge Droids- 6 points
Desert Mercenaries- 6 points
IG-100 Magna Guards- 6 points
Assorted Heavyweight Brawlers- 5 points
Bast Riders- 5 points
Sith Duelist- 12 points
Sith Apprentices- 8 points
TFD Battle Droids- 1 point
Storm Trooper- 2 points
Minor Jedi Knights- 12 points
Jedi Apprentice- 8 points
Coruscant Mercenaries- 6 points
Krath Elite Troopers- 12 points
Sith Assassins- 8 points
Minor Dark Jedi- 12 points
Round 1:
1) Yoda -- Darth Glentract (Clone Troopers) - 5,000
2) Marka Ragnos -- Lord Darkstar (Elite Sith Soldiers) - 2,500
3) Count Dooku -- Se7in (Super Battle Droids) - 3,300
7) Anakin Skywalker -- Jester Mereel (Shock Troopers) - 3,300
8) Exar Kun -- BlackVortex (Massassi Warriors) - 1,250
9) Master Kavar -- Nai Fohl (Republic Soldiers) - 5,000
10) Mace Windu -- Lord Simus (Geonosis Knights) - 2,000
11) Luke Skywalker -- ESB-1138 (New Republic Soldiers) - 5,000
12) Malak -- Fishy (Star Forge Droids) - 1,600
Round 2:
1.13) Obi-Wan Kenobi (ANH) -- Fishy (Desert Mercenaries) - 1,600
1.14) General Grievous -- Jester Mereel (IG-1000 MagnaGuards) - 1,600
1.15) Xanatos -- BlackVortex (Assorted Heavyweight Brawlers) - 2,000
1.16) Freedon Nadd -- Nai Fohl (Beast Riders) - 2,000
1.17) Darth Bane -- Se7in (Sith Duelists) - 800
1.18) Darth Traya -- Lord Darkstar (Sith Apprentices) - 1,200
1.19) Darth Vader -- ESB-1138 (Shock Troopers) - 3,300
1.20) Darth Maul -- Lord Simus (TDF Battle droids) - 10,000
1.21) Joruus C'Baoth -- Darth Glentract (Storm Troopers) - 5,000
Round 3:
1.25) Lord Hoth -- Darth Glentract (Corellia) Minor Jedi Knights - 800
1.26) Vodo Siosk-Bass -- Lord Simus (Coruscant) Jedi Apprentices - 1,200
1.27) Kyle Katarn -- Nai Fohl (Onderon) Coruscant Mercenaries - 1,600
1.28) Ulic Qel-Droma -- Lord Darkstar (Malachor V) Krath Elite troopers - 800
1.29) Jerec -- ESB-1138 (*Random*) Storm Troopers - 5,000
1.30) Sion -- Jester Mereel (*Random*) Sith Assassins - 1,200
1.31) DS Bastila -- Fishy (Kashyyyk) Minor Dark Jedi - 800
1.32) Quinlin Vos -- BlackVortex (Yavin IV) Clone Troopers - 5,000
Sorry, lol. But I'd have to say I rather disagree on a few matters.
Clone Troopers: 2
Elite Sith Soldiers: 7
Super Battle Droids: 3
Shock Troopers: 3
Massassi Warriors: 6
Republic Soldiers: 2
Geonosian Knights: 6
New Republic Soldier: 2
Star Forge Droid: 6
Desert Mercenaries: 3
IG-1000: 6
Assorted Heavyweight Brawlers: 5
Beast Riders: 4
Sith Duelist: 7
Sith Apprentices: 5
TFD Battle Droids: 1
Storm Troopers: 2
Jedi Knights: 6
Jedi Apprentice: 5
Coruscant Mercenary: 4
Krath Elite: 6
Sith Assassin: 4
Dark Jedi: 6
I didn't tally up the point percentages as you did, but I think these are somewhat appropriate. Although the total number of troops may need tweaking, I think the points are good enough.
Round 1:
1) Yoda -- Darth Glentract (Clone Troopers) - 5,000
2) Marka Ragnos -- Lord Darkstar (Elite Sith Soldiers) - 750
3) Count Dooku -- Se7in (Super Battle Droids) - 4,500
7) Anakin Skywalker -- Jester Mereel (Shock Troopers) - 4,500
8) Exar Kun -- BlackVortex (Massassi Warriors) - 1,500
9) Master Kavar -- Nai Fohl (Republic Soldiers) - 5,500
10) Mace Windu -- Lord Simus (Geonosis Knights) - 750
11) Luke Skywalker -- ESB-1138 (New Republic Soldiers) - 5,000
12) Malak -- Fishy (Star Forge Droids) - 750
13) Kyp Durron -- ResubianNushi (Jedi Mavericks)
Round 2:
1.13) Obi-Wan Kenobi (ANH) -- Fishy (Desert Mercenaries) - 1,500
1.14) General Grievous -- Jester Mereel (IG-1000 MagnaGuards) - 750
1.15) Xanatos -- BlackVortex (Assorted Heavyweight Brawlers) - 1,500
1.16) Freedon Nadd -- Nai Fohl (Beast Riders) - 2,500 ???
1.17) Darth Bane -- Se7in (Sith Duelists) - 750
1.18) Darth Traya -- Lord Darkstar (Sith Apprentices) - 300
1.19) Darth Vader -- ESB-1138 (Shock Troopers) - 4,000
1.20) Darth Maul -- Lord Simus (TDF Battle droids) - 7,000
1.21) Joruus C'Baoth -- Darth Glentract (Storm Troopers) - 5,000
1.22) Ludo Kressh -- ResubianNushi (Lesser Sith Warriors)
Round 3:
1.25) Lord Hoth -- Darth Glentract (Corellia) Minor Jedi Knights - 650
1.26) Vodo Siosk-Bass -- Lord Simus (Coruscant) Jedi Apprentices - 700
1.27) Kyle Katarn -- Nai Fohl (Onderon) Coruscant Mercenaries - 1500
1.28) Ulic Qel-Droma -- Lord Darkstar (Malachor V) Krath Elite troopers - 1000
1.29) Jerec -- ESB-1138 (*Random*) Storm Troopers - 4,000
1.30) Sion -- Jester Mereel (*Random*) Sith Assassins - 500
1.31) DS Bastila -- Fishy (Kashyyyk) Minor Dark Jedi - 700
1.32) Quinlin Vos -- BlackVortex (Yavin IV) Clone Troopers - 5,500
1.33) Darth Bandon -- ResubianNushi (*Random*) Sith Swordsman
well personally I think that the numbers are not a great way to judge a person, i think that it would be better if you would say how many average jedi each unit could take down (by average I mean Obi-Wan in TPM or AotC, Anakin Skywalker in AotC and RotJ Luke, the reason both TPM and AotC Kenobi is in there is because he changed forms and did not advance to much from TPM to AotC) If we go like that I say that the lists would go like this, I listed the soldier first, and then the number next to it is how many average jedi it could take out on its own:
Clone Troopers: 1/6 (takes 6 Clone's to defeat an average jedi)
Elite Sith Soldiers: 2
Super Battle Droids: 1/6 (takes 6 super's to defeat one average jedi)
Shock Troopers: I'm not sure how strong these guys are
Massassi Warriors: 1 (they would be weaker than the Elite Sith Soldiers since the Massassi Warriors for Kun had gotten much weaker and lsot their control of the force that they had during Marka's time)
Republic Soldiers: 1/6 (takes 6 Troopers to take down an average jedi)
Geonosian Knights: 1/2 or 1/3 (takes two or three of them to take down an average jedi)
New Republic Soldier: 1/5 (takes 5 of them to take down an average jedi)
Star Forge Droid: 1
Desert Mercenaries: 1/10 (takes 10 of them to take down an average jedi)
IG-1000: 1
Assorted Heavyweight Brawlers: 1/15 (takes 15 of them to defeat an average jedi)
Beast Riders: 1/6 (takes 6 of them to defeat one average jedi)
Sith Duelist: 1
Sith Apprentices: 1/2 (takes two of them to defeat an average jedi)
TDF Battle droids: 1/20 (takes 20 of them to destroy an average jedi)
Storm Troopers: 1/6 (takes 6 of them to destroy an averge jedi)
Minor Jedi Knights: 1/3 (takes 3 of them to defeat an average jedi)
Jedi Apprentices: 1/4 (takes 4 of them to defeat an average jedi)
Coruscant Mercenaries: 1/10 (takes 10 of them to destroy an average jedi)
Krath Elite troopers: 1 (they did kill several jedi, and that was back in Exar's and Ulic's age)
Sith Assassins: 1/2 (takes 2 of them to destroy an average jedi)
Minor Dark Jedi: 1/2 or 1/3 (takes either 2 or 3 of them to destroy an average jedi
Well I hope this can help, but just a note, don't make the armies too small or else we could never take over a planet and each trooper would be too small, I think that the minimum army should be 1000, and if that means that some have armies of 10 000, then fine, but at least some armies are not like 100 people
i still don't agree with the Xanatos pick. more appropriate would be like...
3000 Hutts/Whipids, or just choose one and go with it, the lesser, more soldier like perhaps..
4000 Whipids, something like that, but whatever.
and how come with each new list i get less and less Massassi Warriors? anyone notice that? i started with 2000, then went down to 1500, and then to 1250...while others seem to go up.
the lists have not been confirmed yet, we are just tossing numbers around, and if you notice, when I made my list, you would recieve more warriors than I would from Marka
Also, the reason you may get few warriors is because those that you do get are very strong and if you had too many of them, it would be stupid, for instance, imagine an average jedi vs a TF battledroid, it is just not fair. Also the size of the army depends on who you have as your general, the stronger the general, the weaker the army, this is to keep things more fair
Originally posted by BlackVortex
iand how come with each new list i get less and less Massassi Warriors? anyone notice that? i started with 2000, then went down to 1500, and then to 1250...while others seem to go up.
the reason is that the power associated with the Massassi Warriors per capita is being increased.