Superman and Darkseid VS. Silver Surfer and Thanos

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Thanos almost mind raped Galactus. 🙂

Originally posted by LORD B
thanos is immune to reality warping.
Other than that scan of him traveling through that dimension thingy and withstanding it's effects, there's nothing to prove that Thanos can resist Ds's reality warp. And the fact that Darkseid can reality warp, fly, teleport, and etc, should prove that he is more powerful than the Mad Titan, don't you think?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think its funny as some on here claim the Surfer cant deal with speed. He can and would crush Superman. An overwhelming majority gives Surfer the win over Supes anyways. And to think Supes could just beat him down in moments is ignorant to say the very least. Supes hasnt shown any superiority against Orion. The fight seemed pretty even to me and again it supports my claim that this fight wouldnt end in moments like you think.

I think its funny that you dont see the power cosmic as dangerous when up against a Kryptonian.

Well again Ds does have some rather embarrassing showings as of late so why cant they be brought up. Darkseid regained his powers and looked horrible in the Superman/Batman comic.

Orion is a bad example, considering that he usually matches up physically against Superman evenly without using the AF to amp, something Surfer could never do.

They give Surfer the win due to exploiting Superman's weaknesses, nobody's crazy enough to think Surfer can win a slugfest or by just blasting.

PC is good, but regrettably, it's vastly overrated on this forum, as is 'cosmic awareness' 🙄 .

I also find it very interesting that you constantly use S/B as your examples to bash DS. It's funny, because EVERYONE except Superman&Batman looks terrible in that book. 😂 Anyone who shows up in that book who isn't named Superman or Batman gets screwed over. Despero got one-shotted, DS got screwed twice, Brainiac got beat by the metal men, Supes beat down 20 supervillains during one issue.

So if you want to use a PIS crap writing throw-away book like S/B, be my guest. but it does not do you any credit that it seems to be the ONLY piece of evidence you cite.

So why would surfer get into slugfest with superman? He has alot of other ways to beat him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Name me all the beings that Darkseid has drained of their powers on panel.
Apokolips in foundations, the pantheons, Mordru, the Controller, and etc. He also empowered Mantis whom is a powerful energy drainer. And don't you dare give me that lame ass Gds is non canon argument. I don't like to recap bullshit like that.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Apokolips in foundations, the pantheons, Mordru, the Controller, and etc. He also empowered Mantis whom is a powerful energy drainer. And don't you dare give me that lame ass Gds is non canon argument. I don't like to recap bullshit like that.
I know you were going to bring up Gds but as we all know it isnt canon to Ds. Its a futuristic story.

Actually, Foundations proves you wrong. The GDS feats are indirectly applicable. BECAUSE HE BEAT GDS DARKSEID. Everything GDS Darkseid did, was done in a weakened state. Even after draining Mordru and a controller, he still wasn't at full power. Hell, GDS 'seid and Young Darkseid were both soloing the LSH.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know you were going to bring up Gds but as we all know it isnt canon to Ds. Its a futuristic story.
Blah, blah, not canon. Same character and weaker aswell. You can keep on believing that, not matter how much it negates logic.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Orion is a bad example, considering that he usually matches up physically against Superman evenly without using the AF to amp, something Surfer could never do.

They give Surfer the win due to exploiting Superman's weaknesses, nobody's crazy enough to think Surfer can win a slugfest or by just blasting.

PC is good, but regrettably, it's vastly overrated on this forum, as is 'cosmic awareness' 🙄 .

I also find it very interesting that you constantly use S/B as your examples to bash DS. It's funny, because EVERYONE except Superman&Batman looks terrible in that book. 😂 Anyone who shows up in that book who isn't named Superman or Batman gets screwed over. Despero got one-shotted, DS got screwed twice, Brainiac got beat by the metal men, Supes beat down 20 supervillains during one issue.

So if you want to use a PIS crap writing throw-away book like S/B, be my guest. but it does not do you any credit that it seems to be the ONLY piece of evidence you cite.

Power cosmic isnt overrated but the astro force sure the hell is imo. Power cosmic exploits Supes weaknesses and that you cant deny.

Superman and Batman is canon to dc so you must deal with it. Just because you dont like something and have no valid reason why its not canon just accept it. Be mad at the writers not at me for bringing it up. 😉

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, Foundations proves you wrong. The GDS feats are indirectly applicable. BECAUSE HE BEAT GDS DARKSEID. Everything GDS Darkseid did, was done in a weakened state. Even after draining Mordru and a controller, he still wasn't at full power. Hell, GDS 'seid and Young Darkseid were both soloing the LSH.
Watch him say Darkseid looked bad in foundations. 😆

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Blah, blah, not canon. Same character and weaker aswell. You can keep on believing that, not matter how much it negates logic.
Nah it isnt. Digimark ruled it to not be canon. Darkseid has never replicated the vast mind control he had since that story. Its not canon and logic agrees with me.

You know what. Prove it. Prove to me, that S/B is canon. I guarantee you can't find a single reference to anything in it outside the book itself. And while you're at it, prove to me WHEN it occured. Because the timeline makes no sense and it's not referenced anywhere.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Other than that scan of him traveling through that dimension thingy and withstanding it's effects, there's nothing to prove that Thanos can resist Ds's reality warp. And the fact that Darkseid can reality warp, fly, teleport, and etc, should prove that he is more powerful than the Mad Titan, don't you think?

id say withstanding the effects of the nexus is a pretty big deal considering its point were all realitys meet.

as for darksied being able to fly,what good is that gonna do when thanos can levatate himself off the ground anyway.also thanos is able to teleport.other than the omega effect which imo thanos could withstand or absorb ds has no other chance of winning.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Power cosmic isnt overrated but the astro force sure the hell is imo. Power cosmic exploits Supes weaknesses and that you cant deny.

Superman and Batman is canon to dc so you must deal with it. Just because you dont like something and have no valid reason why its not canon just accept it. Be mad at the writers not at me for bringing it up. 😉

Good god, there's so much hypocrisy in this post. For example, you using the it's canon excuse, when your always trying to debunk that Squirrel girl incident.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, Foundations proves you wrong. The GDS feats are indirectly applicable. BECAUSE HE BEAT GDS DARKSEID. Everything GDS Darkseid did, was done in a weakened state. Even after draining Mordru and a controller, he still wasn't at full power. Hell, GDS 'seid and Young Darkseid were both soloing the LSH.
In foundations he hadnt absorbed Mordru's powers. He came back and got trounced by his younger self before he could amp his powers.

The two Seids had help or did you forget Superman,Orion,Lobo,etc. helping them. One Seid even used the Losh against the other Seid. Did you read it?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Good god, there's so much hypocrisy in this post. For example, you using the it's canon excuse, when your always trying to debunk that Squirrel girl incident.
We arent talking about Thanos and that isnt canon to his character.

Originally posted by LORD B
id say withstanding the effects of the nexus is a pretty big deal considering its point were all reality meet.
as for darksied being able to fly,what good is that gonna do when thanos can levatate himself off the ground anyway.also thanos is able to teleport.other than the omega effect which imo thanos could with stand or absorb ds has no other chance of winning.
Thanos can't teleport without tech from my understanding. Also levititating<<<<<<<<flying to the Source wall in minutes.

From what i know, mindraping or draining Thanos is not out of the realm fo possiblity for DS. If anything its statment that remains true to DS powerset, DS under his own power is what what Thanos would be with the powergem. Team 2 doesnt have a shot.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Thanos can't teleport without tech from my understanding. Also levititating<<<<<<<<flying to the Source wall in minutes.
I thought you followed my debate with desaad and in it I provided a scan of Thanos teleporting without tech.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You know what. Prove it. Prove to me, that S/B is canon. I guarantee you can't find a single reference to anything in it outside the book itself. And while you're at it, prove to me WHEN it occured. Because the timeline makes no sense and it's not referenced anywhere.
This book is canon to dc. Its a good read to boot. Great art and great stories. It backs itself up. 🙂