IS the Dark Side stronger?

Started by InsaneNoodlyGuy3 pages

Anyone that disagrees clearly doesn't pay attention during Return Of The Jedi. [/B]

I paid attention when Luke won using the power of the dark side. had he not, Vader would have certainly killed him, the vader and the emperor would have survived to escape, and the whole thing would be far from over. Then they'd probably go seek out Leia who, with no training at all and quite a temper, would have fallen quite easily to the darkside and secured the legacy of the sith.

Your feelings make you strong.

Originally posted by InsaneNoodlyGuy
I paid attention when Luke won using the power of the dark side. had he not, Vader would have certainly killed him, the vader and the emperor would have survived to escape, and the whole thing would be far from over. Then they'd probably go seek out Leia who, with no training at all and quite a temper, would have fallen quite easily to the darkside and secured the legacy of the sith.

Your feelings make you strong.

yea...................................right

Originally posted by InsaneNoodlyGuy
I paid attention when Luke won using the power of the dark side. had he not, Vader would have certainly killed him, the vader and the emperor would have survived to escape, and the whole thing would be far from over. Then they'd probably go seek out Leia who, with no training at all and quite a temper, would have fallen quite easily to the darkside and secured the legacy of the sith.

Your feelings make you strong.

What did I say dude? The dark side may provide that "physicality" needed too win a straight up fight, but it achieves nothing in the long run. Again, your basing your opinion the assumption that winning fights = ultimate power, which is wrong. The movies have proven this.

If anything the prequels have done right is to prove how the dark side merely tricks you. You sell your sould to the devil, and hemakes you THINK you are all powerful, when in actual fact, you've lost a great deal of strength by succumbing to it in the first place.

What DID happen was that Luke overpowerred the dark side and saved his father. He did this on an emotional level, something his father couldn't do. Like I said, physical ability to win fights is only a fraction of what makes up "power" in Star Wars.

The Sith focus on being able to defeat everyone in fights. Their speiality is fighting and aggressiveness, so they start the fights in the first place. It's like a demon bringing an angel into hell, their arena. The Jedi don't like to fight. They battle with knowledge, wisdom and passiveness, because it is "higher" than fighting.

Saving life is greater than destroying it. That is what Star wars is trying to tell us, and even when I was a kid I understood that the light side was more powerful. It beat the dark side outright. Sure, many Jedi may have died, but they became one with the force and truly became more powerful than any sith could ever imagine. It's a moral tale - when will people realise this? Good side = stronger.

you need to be physically and mentally strong to be strong in the darkside. Darth Vader had an advantage. He was powerfull in the force and he had mecanical arms and legs to make him near invicible. his only flaw was that he was crippeld. he had a mecanical lung so he got tired real quick

As far as I can tell - this has nothing to do with which side is more powerful, and only serves to illustrate the fact that the dark side screws you over and makes you think you are powerful.

Dark side destroys life. Star Wars has made that clear. Vader and Palpatine physically wane and become disfigurred. How can loss of life be more powerful? The dark side turns in on itself and it just destroys until there is nothing left. That is the imbalance. If The Force does not balance, everything will be consumed and all life will be in a perpetual war with itself until there is no more life.

And as for being mentally strong to use the dark side - no. Succumbing to the dark side has been shown as a lack of control, resolve and knowledge. Dark side users are only kidding themselves - Lucas has even said that.

Didn't Mace Windu use the dark side for his fights?
Luke used it too, they didn't do it for fun.
Although the dark side has an unlimited supply of power, it can consume you.. Muhahahaha!!

Woah...things are really getting ugly here...

The Light Side is clearly stronger than the Dark Side. You can have a look on this topic from every possible point of view but at least it comes down to the following points:

- The Dark Side has cooler force powers but they all can be blocked with light side abilities. That results in both sides being equal when it comes to "force powers". Oh stop. Being a Jedi you have the opportunity to become immortal since you can remain as a individual spirit within the force. Score: Light Side 1, Dark Side 0

- The Dark Side consumes you while the Light Side does not. Score: Light Side 2, Dark Side 0

- The Dark Side makes you lose control over your feelings and emotions which might result in killing your friends and beloved ones. Score: Light Side 3, Dark Side 0

- While fighting Light Side users stay calm where Dark Side users can be easily taunted to make stupid mistakes. Score: Light Side 4, Dark Side 0.

Well...Light Side wins. The only advantage the Dark Side has is that it seems to make you more powerful (giving you more power) compared to the Light Side in shorter time. But you have to pay for that and - considering the price - in most cases you have to pay a prize higher than you want and even higher than the worth of the Dark Side abiliities.

Using the Dark Side is pretty much similar to having a pact with the devil. It gives you unbelieveable power but at the end it costs your soul, your life...everything you had. It's never worth the cost.

Nai gets this.

1. The dark side gets you laid. That's a damn effective power. Plus, If luke hadn't used the dark side, balance would have been lost to the universe. It is, at least sometimes, necessary. The light side was doing jack and shit for him in that fight. As for immortality... who want's it? Do you have any idea how boring it would be to live forever?

2. When the hell did we see the dark side consume anyone? since we can only use moveis for the sake of this argument, all we've seen the dark side do is change your eyes. As to Sideuos, well, he got lighning in his face. If we'd jabbed a lightsaber into yoda's forehead, the stress on his body would have made him look alot uglier in 17 years too.

3. If you get deep enough into it, you don't need pussy friends and loved ones... Okay that's kinda week. I'll give you this one.

4. When did any sith lord make a stupid mistake? The only person who ever really screwed up was anakin, and that's because anakin was stupid more then a consistent dark side flaw. Besides, Obi wan's higher ground gave him a +5 hax agility. And in the end, the emperor's only real mistake was that he didn't see the betrayl coming from the one handed guy gasping on the floor for air.

Say what you will, but the two generations of force users most responsible for bringing balance to the force used the dark side at key moments.

The Dark and Light sides of the Force, IMO, are like an hourglass. One side is always prevailing, the other is always in decline. As assuredly as Emperor Palpatine took over, the Rebellion prevailed when they arose and defeated the Empire. However, just as assuredly as they would win, some dark force will rise again.

You can use this philosophy in real life, too - you can say things always end up turning out for the better, or that things always end up turning bad - in either instance, they're constantly going back and forth. The same is true of the Force. Dark Jedi and Sith WILL arise again, despite the Empire's falling.

You can bring peace for a while, but ssomething will always arise to destroy that peace. that thing is what we have defined as evil, and peace would be good. Good wins sometimes and everybodys happy, but the evil rears its ugly head and good has to fight that evil with a price to pay at the end of it.

Like WWI, it ends and everybody cool, but then WWII happens and everybody's sad, but then evil's defeated and everybody's happy again, and so on and so on.