How Many Days does it take GWB to help?

Originally posted by tabby999
so he has a life, big deal, hes the PRESIDENT! his life should be about his country. he misses someones birthday. boo hoo. tell that to the people dying

You act like he wasn't doing something about it. HE WAS. He had everything ready to go and to help. It was the STATE's fault. The State didn't cede to the federal government to come in and help. They said they could handle it when they clearly couldn't. Thery were stubborn asses.

Contrary to popular belief the president can't just come in and take over. That's not how the system works. The Governor is the only one at fault. She had no preparation whatever.

Originally posted by manny321
I blame Micheal brown the fema guy and FEMA in general and that chertoff guy you should change his name to jackoff because thats what he was doing the days after the hurricane CAME!!!

Um. No. The only one to blame is the STATE. People. Jesus Christ. Get through your heads. Anything that happens within a state is the state's responsiblity. Hurricanes included. What the Governor SHOULD have done was ceded to the federal government IMMEDIATELY to come help. What did she do? Send in cops and firefighters. Stupid. She was completely incomptent.

She should have NUMEROUS evacutation procedures and contengicies. But nooooo. She just asked the people to leave under their own power.

Originally posted by Draco69
People don't seem to understand that's not the way the government works. Bush contrary to popular opinion isn't an all-powerful dicatator who can do anything at anytime. He has limits.

The limit on this tragedy was state government. The state government needed to cede for the federal government so the FEMA, National Guard and so forth could come in and help. It's in our constitution. The state government controls the state and anything that happens in the state.

It's all the Governor's fault. She knew it was coming and did NOTHING. She's the Governor. She has the entire friggin state at her disposal. And she did NOTHING. She failed utterly and horribly.

When 9/11 happened, the Mayor of New York and the Govenor did a commendable job of taking care of the damage and aftermath. They IMMEDIATELY ceded for the federal government to come in. Did the Governor of Louisiana do so? No. She failed and I hope she rots in hell.

Besides, OF COURSE Bush isn't going to do anything! He's a racist who CREATED the hurricane to wipe out New Orleans and will create a NEW WORLD ORDER!

Or some shit like that.

One ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them... (Anyone have that pic of Bush with a ring and a close-up that has the photoshopped "one ring" on his hand?)

Originally posted by FeceMan
Thank you.

Besides, OF COURSE Bush isn't going to do anything! He's a racist who CREATED the hurricane to wipe out New Orleans and will create a NEW WORLD ORDER!

Of course. Deano showed us all the light. Someone needs to photoshop the pic of Bush with the ring on his finger to one of him makeing a hurricane machine to kill all the black people.

First off, everyone please read this....

http://www.livejournal.com/users/selphish/584955.html

A first-hand account of someone who lives just outside of New Orleans.

Also, please look at this.

http://thinkprogress.org/katrina-timeline/

The governer of Louisiana declared a state of emergency BEFORE Katrina even hit, on Friday the 26th. When Katrina was upgraded to a category 3 the next day, she asked Bush to declare Louisiana a federal state of emergency; this was done and FEMA was given full clearance and authority to respond when the storm hits. This is done days before the hurricane hit.

Please try and get your information straight before flinging around accusations.

Three Rings for the strongest lands underneath the sky,
Seven for the leading men, protected in their bunkers made of stone,
Nine for the generals whose troops were doomed to die,
One Ring for President Bush resting upon his Throne,
In the Land of Freedom where His supporters lie,
One Ring to rule them all,
One Ring to find them,
One ring to bring them all,
And in the darkness bind them,
In the Land of Freedom where His supporters lie.
__________________________________________________
Happy now?

Originally posted by Draco69
Um. No. The only one to blame is the STATE. People. Jesus Christ. Get through your heads. Anything that happens within a state is the state's responsiblity. Hurricanes included. What the Governor SHOULD have done was ceded to the federal government IMMEDIATELY to come help. What did she do? Send in cops and firefighters. Stupid. She was completely incomptent.

She should have NUMEROUS evacutation procedures and contengicies. But nooooo. She just asked the people to leave under their own power.

"Implementation of Proactive Federal Response Protocols
Protocols for proactive Federal response are most likely to be implemented for catastrophic events involving chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, or high-yield explosive weapons of mass destruction, or large magnitude earthquakes or other natural or technological disasters in or near heavily populated areas.

Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response
Guiding principles for proactive Federal response include the following:
■ The primary mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure, property, and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national security.
■ Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an event of
catastrophic magnitude.
■ Identified Federal response resources will deploy and begin necessary operations as required to commence life-safety activities.
■ Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use of critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate with local governments regarding a proactive Federal response.
■ State and local governments are encouraged to conduct collaborative planning with the Federal Government as a part of "steady-state" preparedness for catastrophic incidents."

Foisting the blame solely on the state government is oversimplifying. There's enough blame to go around for everyone...

*gets the axe ready to signal all the people that are gonna get fired or demanded to resign in the upsoming weeks/months*

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
As Lana mentioned the State declared a state of emergency was declared. It appears FEMA was free to act. Also note:
"The National Response Plan (NRP) establishes policies, procedures, and mechanisms for [b]proactive Federal response to catastrophic events. A catastrophic event is any natural or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the population, infrastructure, environment, economy, national morale, and/or government functions. A catastrophic event could result in sustained national impacts over a prolonged period of time; almost immediately exceeds resources normally available to State, local, tribal, and private-sector authorities in the impacted area; and significantly interrupts governmental operations and emergency services to such an extent that national security could be threatened. All catastrophic events are Incidents of National Significance."

"Implementation of Proactive Federal Response Protocols
Protocols for proactive Federal response are most likely to be implemented for catastrophic events involving chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, or high-yield explosive weapons of mass destruction, or large magnitude earthquakes or other natural or technological disasters in or near heavily populated areas.

Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response
Guiding principles for proactive Federal response include the following:
■ The primary mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure, property, and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national security.
■ Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an event of
catastrophic magnitude.
■ Identified Federal response resources will deploy and begin necessary operations as required to commence life-safety activities.
■ Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and use of critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate with local governments regarding a proactive Federal response.
■ State and local governments are encouraged to conduct collaborative planning with the Federal Government as a part of "steady-state" preparedness for catastrophic incidents."

Foisting the blame solely on the state government is oversimplifying. There's enough blame to go around for everyone... [/B]

It almost looks as if...as if the federal government were supposed to help!

But wait, they can't help, unless there is a brain dead woman who might need saving.

thats how i feel about how george bush is taking things

Draco69, where is your rebuttle to Lana' and wmarksthespot's posts? You have been defending bush and attacking the gov of lousiana like you 're on the whitehouse payroll. Seems that you didn't have your facts straight, not unlike your fearless leader.

I'm curious to see how we can respond to what we posted, as well. Really want to see what he can come up with.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Draco69, where is your rebuttle to Lana' and wmarksthespot's posts? You have been defending bush and attacking the gov of lousiana like you 're on the whitehouse payroll. Seems that you didn't have your facts straight, not unlike your fearless leader.

There isn't a solitary person responsible for this shambles... there are a lot of people who deserve a portion of the blame...
Does "the buck stop here" with Bush though?
Past precedent and current behaviour - the Administration trying to paint the local officials as the ones to blame - says "No."

Originally posted by Draco69
You act like he wasn't doing something about it. HE WAS. He had everything ready to go and to help. It was the STATE's fault. The State didn't cede to the federal government to come in and help. They said they could handle it when they clearly couldn't. Thery were stubborn asses.

Contrary to popular belief the president can't just come in and take over. That's not how the system works. The Governor is the only one at fault. She had no preparation whatever.

oh yeah, i'm sure that the president and all his advisors couldn't see that the state needed help. i'm sure that because the STATE says their fine they wont go in. oh but wait, they declared the area an emergency state the day before. oh well, much like bush i suppose facts dont mean much to you if they dont support your claim

oh, and news is starting to come out that President Bush may have delayed resources until Governor Blanco declared a portion of her state was having a domestic insurrection - even though by law he could have been in there.

Originally posted by Deano

thats how i feel about how george bush is taking things

Nice fish.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Three Rings for the strongest lands underneath the sky,
Seven for the leading men, protected in their bunkers made of stone,
Nine for the generals whose troops were doomed to die,
One Ring for President Bush resting upon his Throne,
In the Land of Freedom where His supporters lie,
One Ring to rule them all,
One Ring to find them,
One ring to bring them all,
And in the darkness bind them,
In the Land of Freedom where His supporters lie.
__________________________________________________
Happy now?

I am so lame. 🙁

why the hell is everyone talking as if george bush is in control of anything in america?
fact is he is not, he is a puppet and he hasnt control of anything. so dont blame him. aitn you lot learned anythin by now?

Originally posted by Deano
why the hell is everyone talking as if george bush is in control of anything in america?
fact is he is not, he is a puppet and he hasnt control of anything. so dont blame him. aitn you lot learned anythin by now?

im not trying to show you the mechanics of grammar.

nice try at a comeback though