Demonic Possession, A Realy Possibility?

Originally posted by Spelljammer
I don't know anyone over 30 who does, seriously.

I went to a witch shop and saw a quija board I fell inlove with. It was handcrafted and had a triquetra (which is the symbol I now wear) over the board. It was very beautiful. And what better way to manipulate the spirits then in style? 😎

She wouldn't sell it to me! 😠 Mom was even suprised at the old lady and she said something along the lines of "I'm getting a bad feeling about it, I know if Daniel were here (her son) he'd say it's bad buisness, but there's something not right about this situation.."

I don't know if that lady was empathetic on my plans to force other minds to do my will or use friends as guinnie pigs.

Or if she foresaw some sortof omen for it all coming back to me three times. (Which is what witch'es say ALOT. Very annoying..)

Either way, she wouldn't sell it to me. Which bassicaly ruined my plans. 😠

what were your plans with it?

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
what were your plans with it?

A) Spirits know things I don't. Which shouldn't be. I'm entitled to have just as much power as they do. So I wanted to use them as a means of obtaining more power. Sounds very Mephistopheles but ohwell..

B) My curiosity is very strong. I wanted to see if the myths were true about someone becoming possessed if they do the quija board alone. And what's the point of having friends if they can't be used as guinnie pigs? \m/ 😈 \m/

Originally posted by Spelljammer
... I thought I made it obvious? 😕

A) Spirits know things I don't. Which shouldn't be. I'm entitled to have just as much power as they do. So I wanted to use them as a means of obtaining more power. Sounds very Mephistopheles but ohwell..

B) My curiosity is very strong. I wanted to see if the myths were true about someone becoming possessed if they do the quija board alone. And what's the point of having friends if they can't be used as guinnie pigs? \m/ 😈 \m/

Okay, That is a scary thought. You should heed the words of your mother. Quija is EVIL. And what you want to use it for is not good. Espically the second. You shouldnt put anyone in danger.

Heh you obviously don't know what an evil guy I can be.. \m/ 😈 \m/

Infact, I have conjured spirits before. Only once to my knowledge, but it was very apparent that I did. They didn't seem hostile, which is more then I can say for the ones who visit me in my dreams and love to pick a fight. I wakeup blue in the face, gasping for air, cold sweat, my mind becomes blank and I can't even remember where or who I am for about 60 seconds.. but luckiely when it gets to that point my cat wakes me up by jumping on my stomache or biting me.

Despite how I hate that cat, she's a *****, attacks the dogs for no reason at all, isn't very lovable, and has a smarmy look about her and curls her lip at you. She looks like with her lil mustache and I call her Hitler.. (Who reincarnated into my cat! *Gasp!*)

But yeah, I'm not too concerned about the dangers or the severities that could happen to my "friends". I have my own altirior motives that need trial and error and expirmentation before they can see fruit. Sacrifices have to be made. There is no saviour or hardly morale for that matter. This world is evil versus evil. Some evil people are just more sickingly disgusting then others..

People think "How can something that The Parker Brothers make be harmful?" It's not the board itself which is dangerous, but the line of communication you're using is.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm just curious as to why you think you are a factual authority on such a subjective issue.

You can't go around telling people that things exist or don't exist.

-AC

It's just my opinion. I don't see why you go strutting around the forums acting like 'The Brain King.'

Pull your head out of your rear-end and you'll see what I mean 🙂

I see what you mean, I see perfectly. And I only say "I'm right" if I am. If it's my opinion I recognise that regardless of how heavily I put it across.

You constantly consider yourself an authority on the paranormal and the occult just because you love horror movies and claim to have had encounters with spirits. That means jack shit, here. Sorry to say so.

You have no place guaranteeing or denying that things of subjective and unproven nature exist or not.

-AC

He hasn't claimed anything, you're just a prick. Get over yourself. Alot more people believe in the paranormal. If you want to be in denial that's your problem, not our's. But we don't have to live in ignorance simply because you choose too.

See, this is what I mean. If I had my way, people like this guy wouldn't exsist. I ask you, seriously, what is all this bad rep Satan's got? He wants nothing more then to bring wrath and gloom on dumbasses like this who deny God. Is that so wrong? Think about how relieved you would be if you never had to deal with such chumps, or atleast a whole lot less of them..

Originally posted by Spelljammer
He hasn't claimed anything, you're just a prick. Get over yourself. Alot more people believe in the paranormal. If you want to be in denial that's your problem, not our's. But we don't have to live in ignorance simply because you choose too.

A) He's a she, don't dive in a pool with no water. You'll land on your head and I'll have to wipe the floor as per usual.

B) I don't care who chooses to believe what, that's the beauty of the world. I personally find it very interesting. From Cat's previous posts here it's quite clear that she doesn't have much to show outside of her ability to say "Yeah this is real, but that isn't." If I'm wrong, let her show me and I'll admit it.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
See, this is what I mean. If I had my way, people like this guy wouldn't exsist. I ask you, seriously, what is all this bad rep Satan's got? He wants nothing more then to bring wrath and gloom on dumbasses like this who deny God. Is that so wrong? Think about how relieved you would be if you never had to deal with such chumps, or atleast a whole lot less of them..

I believe Mark Twain (if my memory recalls, might be wrong) said it best when he mentioned how christians are supposedly all about forgiving sins. Satan is the biggest sinner of them all and by the definition of christianity, the one who needs the most forgiveness. Yet all he's met with is contempt and hatred from a legion of God's "followers" who spout off bullcrap about "They know not what they do" but don't believe it themselves.

I'm not a christian, I have spiritual beliefs but I am not connected to any religion. My comment was meant in partial humour based upon that notion.

Humour: It's this year's hot new thing. Might wanna try it out. Or better yet Mr. Copperfield, try conjuring it up with your magick skills. Pfft.

Disclaimer: For those among the GDF (you do know who you are) who are a little over sensitive as to what an insult is or isn't, nothing in this post is an insult. Save yourself the reply.

-AC

From my point of view : I agree with alot of what BlackCat says. I also study paranormal and alot of information she is telling you guys is true (from what I know and experience). Quijas are bad, they are opening a can of worms you don't want to deal with. Ghost do exist, However they wont harm you UNLESS, they had an aggressive personality in life they will carry it with them in death. What will harm you or try is demons and other negative or evil entities. EVPS, are a way of communicating with the dead, but you must be careful when you do an EVP. Make sure you are only contacting human spirits. And as she said the movie "white noise" is a bunch of bull shit.

Now spelljammer- Its up to you do deal with and be involved in what you want. Its your free right, just be careful in what you do. and you should treat others more nicely like AC, remember he is also only giving his opinion

AC- I am not exactly sure what your opinion on this is, you can choose how you want to think and feel. But also remember what spelljammer and BlackCat are saying is true in their opinions.

I am not trying to mother any of you or anything, but from what I am seeing you guys are misunderstanding each other. you all have opinions and should try your best to be nice to each other, and except it that others don't have the same opinions...I could use this advice myself.

I appreciate you're trying to help or be a peacekeeper and yadadada-da, but their opinion can be "true" to them all they want. To Hitler it was true that the jews sucked and deserved to die.

I don't need to be "nicer" to anyone because I'm not being mean. Cat's going around with her own personal beliefs on something so subjective as this, trying to guarantee what's real and what isn't. I've seen her promise someone that Heaven exists, she has no place to do so.

You believing in all of this strongly doesn't make it any more provable.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I appreciate you're trying to help or be a peacekeeper and yadadada-da, but their opinion can be "true" to them all they want. To Hitler it was true that the jews sucked and deserved to die.

I don't need to be "nicer" to anyone because I'm not being mean. Cat's going around with her own personal beliefs on something so subjective as this, trying to guarantee what's real and what isn't. I've seen her promise someone that Heaven exists, she has no place to do so.

You believing in all of this strongly doesn't make it any more provable.

-AC

yes Hitler did believe he was right, and some people still believe what he did was right. And many others disagree.

why doesn't she have the place to do so? Its a free country she can say and speak how she feels and believes. She can say what she wants and believe its true. She can promise someone Heaven exists, because to her and in heart it does. I also believe it exists.

Believing in something always does not make it provable. But for BlackCat and I which we tend to (I think)share the same thoughts towards the Paranormal (I don't know if she believes in God as a Christian point of view so I cant really use religion here) But, we can give you proof. I can prove to you Ghost exists, but you wouldn't believe it anyway, because you don't want to which is fine thats your choice.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I believe Mark Twain (if my memory recalls, might be wrong) said it best when he mentioned how christians are supposedly all about forgiving sins. Satan is the biggest sinner of them all and by the definition of christianity, the one who needs the most forgiveness. Yet all he's met with is contempt and hatred from a legion of God's "followers" who spout off bullcrap about "They know not what they do" but don't believe it themselves.

"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" - Mark Twain

AC is not a nice guy, I can tell by the way he talks to us he thinks he's above us, he's a snobby, pompus, prick, who probably wasn't disciplined enough as a child. So now he thinks he has rights over us because he's special, when he's not..

I've seen his kind before, and that's what really burns my ass about Christians and most doctrines of faith. We're suppose to show compassion and forgiveness towards these people, why? What makes anyone, much less these disgusting individuals deserve mercy and forgiveness? I don't want a God that'll hug me and be my friend, I want a God that will takeout the garbage, that way life is alot more peaceful and quite without the noise of black souls like AC and others like him exsisting. Not to say AC is the worse man in the world, I could easily name more, alot more.

But I'm in no mood to deal with it. I've seen through history and self-exprience where consideration and mercy gets you. It gets you hung on a cross starving and dirty. And there isn't going to be anyone there to save you..

If the Jews/Romans could do that to Jesus I dare not think about what they'd do to me if given the oppurtunity, and I'm not going to let them have the chance too..

You try to deny the darkside, but you'll be relieved when those that deny God will be fed to the worm. Never again demeaning us, never again pushing us around, isn't about time you deserved liberation?

Originally posted by Spelljammer
AC is not a nice guy, I can tell by the way he talks to us he thinks he's above us, he's a snobby, pompus, prick, who probably wasn't disciplined enough as a child. So now he thinks he has rights over us because he's special, when he's not..

I've seen his kind before, and that's what really burns my ass about Christians and most doctrines of faith. We're suppose to show compassion and forgiveness towards these people, why? What makes anyone, much less these disgusting individuals deserve mercy and forgiveness? I don't want a God that'll hug me and be my friend, I want a God that will takeout the garbage, that way life is alot more peaceful and quite without the noise of black souls like AC and others like him exsisting. Not to say AC is the worse man in the world, I could easily name more, alot more.

But I'm in no mood to deal with it. I've seen through history and self-exprience where consideration and mercy gets you. It gets you hung on a cross starving and dirty. And there isn't going to be anyone there to save you..

If the Jews/Romans could do that to [b]Jesus I dare not think about what they'd do to me if given the oppurtunity, and I'm not going to let them have the chance too..

You try to deny the darkside, but you'll be relieved when those that deny God will be fed to the worm. Never again demeaning us, never again pushing us around, isn't about time you deserved liberation? [/B]

🙄

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
why doesn't she have the place to do so? Its a free country she can say and speak how she feels and believes. She can say what she wants and believe its true. She can promise someone Heaven exists, because to her and in heart it does. I also believe it exists.

She can say what she wants, but she has no actual right to confirm, deny or promise people things with regards to her own personal, unfounded and unprovable beliefs.

She can't promise someone Heaven exists because she doesn't know that it does, she believes it does. She has no right giving someone possibly false hopes.

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
Believing in something always does not make it provable. But for BlackCat and I which we tend to (I think)share the same thoughts towards the Paranormal (I don't know if she believes in God as a Christian point of view so I cant really use religion here) But, we can give you proof. I can prove to you Ghost exists, but you wouldn't believe it anyway, because you don't want to which is fine thats your choice.

You can't prove to me that a ghost exists, what part of that are you not understanding? You can give me lectures about why you believe a ghost exists, what evidence you have etc etc. The conviction with which you hold these beliefs does not render upon them some kind of truth shield. Sorry to break that to you.

I'm not denying the existance of ghosts, nor am I confirming. I'm just saying that you can't confirm it for someone else.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
AC is not a nice guy, I can tell by the way he talks to us he thinks he's above us, he's a snobby, pompus, prick, who probably wasn't disciplined enough as a child. So now he thinks he has rights over us because he's special, when he's not..

Everyone here has that opinion of me and it's SO flattering because I don't even think that about myself. It's really becoming apparant that you all think it and hate yourselves for thinking it, so you blame me. Sad.

I wasn't forced into believing things as a child, if that's what you mean by discipline. Hence why I believe people are free to SAY what they want, regardless of where I disagree or not. I believe Cat has no right going around saying some of the convictions she does, but that's freedom of speech and I respect it. I'd rather be loosely raised and be how I am than be raised how I assume (from your own definition of discipline) you were, and have a bottle cork wedge up my ass so far that I'm afraid to believe anything else.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
I've seen his kind before, and that's what really burns my ass about Christians and most doctrines of faith. We're suppose to show compassion and forgiveness towards these people, why? What makes anyone, much less these disgusting individuals deserve mercy and forgiveness? I don't want a God that'll hug me and be my friend, I want a God that will takeout the garbage, that way life is alot more peaceful and quite without the noise of black souls like AC and others like him exsisting. Not to say AC is the worse man in the world, I could easily name more, alot more.

Haha, be honest, you've not seen my kind before 😉.

Second, how hypocritical. You want an honest and if neccessary, brutal God...but...when I speak out with vicious passion it's "Oh no! You're a dark soul, you can't say/do that!" You christians don't actually stop talking out of your collective anii do you?

-AC

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" - Mark Twain

Originally posted by Spelljammer
AC is not a nice guy, I can tell by the way he talks to us he thinks he's above us, he's a snobby, pompus, prick, who probably wasn't disciplined enough as a child. So now he thinks he has rights over us because he's special, when he's not..

I've seen his kind before, and that's what really burns my ass about Christians and most doctrines of faith. We're suppose to show compassion and forgiveness towards these people, why? What makes anyone, much less these disgusting individuals deserve mercy and forgiveness? I don't want a God that'll hug me and be my friend, I want a God that will takeout the garbage, that way life is alot more peaceful and quite without the noise of black souls like AC and others like him exsisting. Not to say AC is the worse man in the world, I could easily name more, alot more.

But I'm in no mood to deal with it. I've seen through history and self-exprience where consideration and mercy gets you. It gets you hung on a cross starving and dirty. And there isn't going to be anyone there to save you..

If the Jews/Romans could do that to [b]Jesus I dare not think about what they'd do to me if given the oppurtunity, and I'm not going to let them have the chance too..

You try to deny the darkside, but you'll be relieved when those that deny God will be fed to the worm. Never again demeaning us, never again pushing us around, isn't about time you deserved liberation? [/B]

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You christians don't actually stop talking out of your collective anii do you?

It doesn't though does it? Let us be truly honest with our souls here. It doesn't make what he said completely true because it's factually false.

You're a christian and you're agreeing with him because you don't like what I'm saying. All there is to it. Don't complain about your religion being about forgiveness. Don't like it? Don't follow it. Don't like what I say? Forgive me. Simple isn't it? Just do what the good book says and assume I know not what I do.

Forgiveness is so freely given? Wanna tell me where you get this from Mr. Anyone who believes in abortion believes in murder and it's unforgivable?

-AC

Superstition.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It doesn't though does it? Let us be truly honest with our souls here. It doesn't make what he said completely true because it's factually false.

You're a christian and you're agreeing with him because you don't like what I'm saying. All there is to it. Don't complain about your religion being about forgiveness. Don't like it? Don't follow it. Don't like what I say? Forgive me. Simple isn't it? Just do what the good book says and assume I know not what I do.

Forgiveness is so freely given? Wanna tell me where you get this from Mr. Anyone who believes in abortion believes in murder and it's unforgivable?

-AC

Where have I ever said that abortion is unforgivable? I believe it is a sin, I believe it is murder, but where do you get off on declaring that I said it is unforgivable?