Originally posted by EvilCap America
To be fair everything that happens in MGS could be taken with a gain of salt.Snakes still pretty much even if hes got Batman level skills taking on fully armed Tanks a guy that can haul around a vehicle mounted machine gun he can use to cut down missles and giant mecha with little more than some boxes to hide behind is pretty far-fetched
Bitten by a radio active Spider, and doing what he does. If anything he should be poisoned and die.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Bitten by a radio active Spider, and doing what he does. If anything he should be poisoned and die.
Im not talking about realism im talking about continuity
If the Ninja had class 100 strength and speed that made dodging bullets childs play then Solid snake wouldnt have been able to walk around his kicks and land his pre-progammed "1 2 High Kick" combo.One moment the ninja can hack bullets out of the air and catch Metal Gears foot the next Snake can side-step and pummel at his leisure until the Ninja starts breaking down from the damage.Why?Because its a video game and they adjusted the chaarcters capabilties to whatever they wanted
Now about Mario
Is he a fat plumber from brooklyn that grabs magic mushroom kingdom items to save the princess and has little beyond his wits and courage
or is a superbeing that can hold his breath indefinately[depending on weather the level is timed] smash brick walls with his fist and head and leap 15 feet vertically with a head couple steps to run?
Originally posted by EvilCap America
Im not talking about realism im talking about continuityIf the Ninja had class 100 strength and speed that made dodging bullets childs play then Solid snake wouldnt have been able to walk around his kicks and land his pre-progammed "1 2 High Kick" combo.One moment the ninja can hack bullets out of the air and catch Metal Gears foot the next Snake can side-step and pummel at his leisure until the Ninja starts breaking down from the damage.Why?Because its a video game and they adjusted the chaarcters capabilties to whatever they wanted
Now about Mario
Is he a fat plumber from brooklyn that grabs magic mushroom kingdom items to save the princess and has little beyond his wits and courage
or is a superbeing that can hold his breath indefinately[depending on weather the level is timed] smash brick walls with his fist and head and leap 15 feet vertically with a head couple steps to run?
*Sigh*
In the mario universe thats what they do.....
Do you see in real life, a radio active Spider biting people, and the shocker, taking hits that he does. Kingpin does all this stuff as well.
Dare Devil could do what he does ?
yeah...so stop going oh video games...
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
*Sigh*
In the mario universe thats what they do.....Do you see in real life, a radio active Spider biting people, and the shocker, taking hits that he does. Kingpin does all this stuff as well.
Dare Devil could do what he does ?
yeah...so stop going oh video games...
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Originally posted by TwisterGameX
That was uncalled for.
Well im sorry then but im not saying "BOO NINJA DA LOZR" im saying i cant really gauge his abilties too well considering the MGS storylne and what happens through it.If it were a comic i would call the writing inconsistant just the same.I havent even voted for one or the other because of that fact too
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
History ?
This happened though, and is what they said in his stats, on what Cyber Ninja could do. The exoskeleton, also enhances everything as well. The sword will help a great deal in this too.These too dodge bullets, like flies.
Because Cyber Ninja doesnt have, in the manual
Strength, could lift a whale
Speed, faster than a speeding bullet.Doesn't mean you could not include, on what they say in the stor about what he could do, then him doing it at the end.
Sorry its not what I mean, I'm saying to use a history alone makes a match inconclusive see?
Its fine to understand that he's super agile, fast, etc.
I'm saying going "cyber ninja beat xxx, so he beats xxx" isn't a fair and solid argument.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Sorry its not what I mean, I'm saying to use a history alone makes a match inconclusive see?Its fine to understand that he's super agile, fast, etc.
I'm saying going "cyber ninja beat xxx, so he beats xxx" isn't a fair and solid argument.
Cyber ninja didn't beat metal gear rex, so its not oh he beat xx.
Ni I am saying on how he faired against it, showing all his abilities, on exactly how fast and agile he is.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
This comics vs games things is stupid.
Comics are no less incosistent than games.
Stupid shit happens in both. Our heroes win and move on.
From what Cyborg has done, he's easily spideys equal and superior in many ways.
Comics have tons of things to cycle through and they generall try and keep a consistant continuity [because comic fans hate inconsistancy].The mistake happen because of bad writers making mistakes over years and years of constant issues and deadlines
Games tend to be less consistant because alot of things are hard to fit into the combination of game mechanic and dramatic storyline[ie how much damage did Dante take from a sword in his chest in the games openning scene and how did he heal it back up?Why can solid snake beat up a Class 100 monster in H2H?Why can Tommy Vercetti take more bullets than anyone else but take damage from falling that pedestrians dont?]
Regardless of if Snake was able to punch him or not, [which is something he allowed -- try using a gun in that fight, and he'll kill you in two quick moves -- It's still in Fox's character to be able to dodge and bat away full auto machine guns like it's nothing. If you play the remake, he's also a blur of movement and can kick and cut through several feet of solid concrete. It's still in his character and is one of his feats. Think of Batman taking down Spawn in his own continuum, likely? Not much so, especially since he didn't utilize his brain to do it, which is Bruce's character, but it happened, and is definately one of the low points in Spawn's career of badassness. So should we assume that evil demon generals of near limitless levels arent that great because Batman beats them? I don't think so.
Kool Site from Avalon. Address your attention on what he does, and the moving thing at the bottom of the page.
http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mgs_tts/english/chara_ninja.html
Originally posted by EvilCap America
Comics have tons of things to cycle through and they generall try and keep a consistant continuity [because comic fans hate inconsistancy].The mistake happen because of bad writers making mistakes over years and years of constant issues and deadlinesGames tend to be less consistant because alot of things are hard to fit into the combination of game mechanic and dramatic storyline[ie how much damage did Dante take from a sword in his chest in the games openning scene and how did he heal it back up?Why can solid snake beat up a Class 100 monster in H2H?Why can Tommy Vercetti take more bullets than anyone else but take damage from falling that pedestrians dont?]
That would be great if MGS were say.... an open platformer...but MGS is basically a movie with gameplay elements. Why are there unlimited continues? Because the player sucks...not Snake. Snake wins his battles but you have to earn your way to see how he does it and what happens.
Its simply a rewards system.
Comics are different in that since they come out monthly or weekly, they have to keep suspending your believe much more often... which creates far more inconsistency.