Why are they Celebrities?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You think they deserve the amounts of money they get? They achieve the exorbitant pay cheques they receive not because they perform great feats but because society has misplaced values. How does that equal being deserving? No one deserves to be a billionaire when there are billions of people on Earth who earn less than a dollar a day.

Wrong..

We pay them now don't we? They entertain us, they make us happy. We pay them what we think they deserve. If they weren't worthy of those millions they wouldn't have it because we wouldn't watch their movies and buy their albums and god knows what. Its obvious that we think they deserve the crap they have. Otherwise they wouldn't have it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
while some beggar on the streets of Delhi just isn't...if he is worth that for you great...go ahead...give him your money....but it's a free universe and I don't think I should be forced to adapt your set of values.

Who's forcing you?....But in my opinion...human life is more important than fictional programs.

You pay them exorbitant amounts because their worth is overrated. That doesn't mean they are actually deserving of the money they receive for the quantity and quality of work that they do.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Who's forcing you?....But in my opinion...human life is more important than fictional programs.

So instead of watching movies in a theather you send 10 dollars to a homeless person in god knows what place?

Instead of listening to music you send money to other people?

So you have no games, no movies, no music in your home at all?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Who's forcing you?....But in my opinion...human life is more important than fictional programs.

No one and that's the way it should be.....as for yout "human life is more important than fictional programs" that's good for you..really...I don't want to take that from you...but then really take the responsibility don't watch TV anymore don't go to the Cinema best cut off all media you have and spend your money on "helping people".....but what I am I saying...you won't...it'S easy to type it over the internet but life is just to comfortable isn't it..........hypocrits.....

Originally posted by Fishy
So instead of watching movies in a theather you send 10 dollars to a homeless person in god knows what place?

Instead of listening to music you send money to other people?

So you have no games, no movies, no music in your home at all?

I have sacrificed.....yes...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You pay them exorbitant amounts because their worth is overrated. That doesn't mean they are actually deserving of the money they receive for the quantity and quality of work that they do.

They get what we are willing to pay them... Sure the money could be spent at other places, sure I think they have to much money. But its apparantly what they deserve because they only get money as long as we are willing to pay for their products. We are still willing to do that, meaning they do get what they deserve.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You pay them exorbitant amounts because their worth is overrated. That doesn't mean they are actually deserving of the money they receive for the quantity and quality of work that they do.

And with actors it is not overated either...I am willing to pay that amount of money so they are clearly wotrth it...if you never go to the cinema that is good....if you would they would bbe even worth more money, but they still get what people are willing to pay for the.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I have sacrificed.....yes...

What?-...How much?...when was the last time you watched a movie?

And dammit Fishy you alwqays beat me to the answers...pros to you.

Originally posted by Fishy
They get what we are willing to pay them... Sure the money could be spent at other places, sure I think they have to much money. But its apparantly what they deserve because they only get money as long as we are willing to pay for their products. We are still willing to do that, meaning they do get what they deserve.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No it is not overated...it is not possible to be overated except if the Government steps in......in a true capitalistic system everyone gets what they deserve.

And with actors it is not overated either...I am willing to pay that amount of money so they are clearly wotrth it...if you never go to the cinema that is good....if you would they would bbe even worth more money, but they still get what people are willing to pay for the.

Cool isn't? 😛

But indeed Debbie how much, do you have music or movies or games? Because if you do then you obviously think those people deserve a lot of money, maybe not as much as others are willing to give them. But you are still paying them.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What?-...How much?...when was the last time you watched a movie?

And dammit Fishy you alwqays beat me to the answers...pros to you.

Who said I don't watch movies?.....But I do sacrifice many things....I've given birthday money that was sent to me to someone else who really needed it.....I've paid for others long over due bill without them knowing it......Human life is more important...

Yet, still I go to movies...I listen to music....I might not live in the finest house or have the newest car though....But I'm fine with this... material things don't mean that much to me..

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What people are willing to pay someone is not the same as what a person deserves for the quality and quantity of the work that they do.
Not overrated? 😬 Okay...
In a true capitalist system everyone gets what they deserve... sure...
Read above.

Read above.

Originally posted by Fishy
Cool isn't? 😛

But indeed Debbie how much, do you have music or movies or games? Because if you do then you obviously think those people deserve a lot of money, maybe not as much as others are willing to give them. But you are still paying them.

Yes I am suprised, didn't find many people over here that share my view on philosophy and politics.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What people are willing to pay someone is not the same as what a person deserves for the quality and quantity of the work that they do.

Sure it is, lets just look at oil.

We need it now, its rare so people are willing to pay more money for oil.

The prices adjust to the need of the people. We need them apparantly so they deserve the money. You can argue it for hours, but the fact is if they didn't deserve it they wouldn't get it. They are getting the moeny so they deserve it.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Who said I don't watch movies?.....But I do sacrifice many things....I've given birthday money that was sent to me to someone else who really needed it.....I've paid for others long over due bill without them knowing it......Human life is more important...

Yet, still I go to movies...I listen to music....I might not live in the finest house or have the newest car though....But I'm fine with this... material things don't mean that much to me..

So then you still think they deserve the things they get... You are still willing to pay them. Why would you do that if they don't deserve it? You obviously think they deserve it otherwise you wouldn't pay for it.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Who said I don't watch movies?.....But I do sacrifice many things....I've given birthday money that was sent to me to someone else who really needed it.....I've paid for others long over due bill without them knowing it......Human life is more important...

Yet, still I go to movies...I listen to music....I might not live in the finest house or have the newest car though....But I'm fine with this... material things don't mean that much to me..

Oil prices are inflated - the death of the Saudi king, Iranian nuclear worries, Iraq war - so your analogy suits my argument better than yours. Commodities can have inflated prices - so can occupations.

Originally posted by Fishy
Sure it is, lets just look at oil.

We need it now, its rare so people are willing to pay more money for oil.

The prices adjust to the need of the people. We need them apparantly so they deserve the money. You can argue it for hours, but the fact is if they didn't deserve it they wouldn't get it. They are getting the moeny so they deserve it.

I agree wit you...just one thing the secons the government steps in and taxes or does anything else with it the system gets perverted......the government should just keep to themself.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Oil prices are inflated - the death of the Saudi king, Iranian nuclear worries, Iraq war - so your analogy suits my argument better than yours. Commodities can have inflated prices - so can occupations.

No it doesn't, we need it we want it we are willing to pay for it. Prices won't drop until we stop paying for it. Its very simple. Movie stars will not get paid less until we stop paying them. Oil is worth what we are willing to pay for it, the same goes for movie stars. They get what we want to pay.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well for every movie you watched you could have given a human child ten dollars for every CD you bought you could have saved the beggar on the street corner from starvation.......so don't say it is more important to you...it is just more important to you to the extend as you can be seen as a caring human ....probably you tell all your friends that you spent your birthday money.......god.....it is so shallow.

Give a chocolate bar to a fat man. How much is it worth?
Give a chocolate bar to a starving man. How much is it worth?
The chocolate bar is actually the same both times.

I'm not arguing whether society values entertainment. Society has stupid values.