Originally posted by Justbyfaithwhich also reflected on what was going on at the time he had written it. the difference now is that, it was more open back then than it is now. what with the self-righteous spewing their babble.
Apostle Paul hit the head of the nail on that one!
Originally posted by Trickster...and yet wisdom is ever elusive.
Knowing everything makes knowledge pointless, doesn't it?
Originally posted by Fëanor
[B]which also reflected on what was going on at the time he had written it. the difference now is that, it was more open back then than it is now. what with the self-righteous spewing their babble.
Actually if you read the verse Paul said,"In the last days...
You would be out of context to say these indicators of the last days were more pronounced back than then today. Mankinds is a BIG LOVER of self.
\Self is the biggest religion in the world and thier are billions of followers 🙄
Originally posted by Justbyfaithi won't argue that he wrote "In the last days..."
Actually if you read the verse Paul said,"In the last days...You would be out of context to say these indicators of the last days were more pronounced back than then today. Mankinds is a BIG LOVER of self.
\Self is the biggest religion in the world and thier are billions of followers 🙄
but then, there were so many way back then that thought the last days were upon them. in the middle ages during the plague years, the religious and the pious thought the last days were upon them and so on...and so on. during the time of the roman hedonistic era, the first christians thought the last days were upon them also. and when the stars fell from the heavens in the early whenever in America...the self-righteous puritanical whatevers thought the last days were upon them.
and if you can't love yourself...how can you then love others? blah blah blah.
Originally posted by Justbyfaithare you being rhetorical? Jesus said many things. what we make of it is up to us to decide. i just don't follow that mind set that if i sin and do not repent, that i will forever burn in Hell for my transgression. To you...God is black and white (an opinionated guess of who you are) to others...he's shades of grey. to me...he/she is whatever i make him/her to be.
Did Jesus say, "Love yourself or love others"?Did Jesus say, "Don't deny yourself or deny yourselves and follow Me?"
I quote the Bible because I am absolutely, positively, unequivocally, convinced and sold out on the fact that it--the Bible--is God's Word. Notice something folks. I have several hundred posts to my credit since becoming a member of this forum and not once have I called anyone any names. I have addressed you all by your forum names, used with all due respect frequently in some of my replies, and just done my best to remain civil. I have been accused of being stupid, cussed out on this forum repeatedly and called everything but by forum name on several occasions. I have been repeatedly criticized, demeaned, and ganged up on. Some of you have remained mature and treated me with respect. Just because I am solid in my faith does not mean that I do not respect anyone. I do respect all of you but I will not change what I believe.
Jesus Christ is the True God and eternal life, was crucified for the world's sins, buried, and raised from the dead. No other Person has been more maligned, hated, and blasphemed more than God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), or God the Holy Spirit. People use God in conjuction with profanity, "God_______." They use the Name of Jesus Christ like it is an interjection (e.g. Jesus Christ!). The say the Holy Spirit's Name in contempt as well (e.g., Holy______ or Holy that or Holy this). No other religious leaders names even come up in those kinds of contexts (i.e., curse words, interjections, and other blasphemous contexts). I have never heard anyone say, "Mohammed this! or Buddah that!" in any profane way. I have never heard anyone say the devil's name in a disrespectful way either. This ought to at least hint to the fact that Jesus must be the one, true, God after all. Just think about it. We say B.C. (i.e. before Christ, not B.S., before satan, or B.M., before Mohammed, or B.J.S., before Joseph Smith, or B.B, before Buddah). Why not? Again just more clues that perhaps Jesus is the true God. Anyhoo just thought that I'd share that with you all.
Let get myself ready for the backlash.
Originally posted by Deano
for jesusisaliveNothing has served the elites Agenda more than religion. Still today in America religion controls the minds and limits the thinking of the Christian patriot movement which has seen through many other smokescreens and identified many aspects of the Brotherhood conspiracy. What they cannot face, however, is that their own religion is a massive part of that conspiracy.That is not to condemn all people who call themselves Christian. There are many who express a loving spirituality through their Christian beliefs. I am talking of the institution of Christianity and its arrogant indoctrination and imposition of its desperately limited
vision of life which has created a mind-prison for literally billions of people over almost 2,000 years. All the world’s major religions, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism and Islam, came out of the very same region of the Middle and Near East from which the Aryan race and the reptile crossbreeds emerged after the cataclysm of perhaps 7,000 years ago.
These religions were designed to imprison the mind and engulf the emotions with fear and guilt. They were usually based on some ‘saviour-god’ figure like Jesus or Mohammed and only by believing in them and following their dictates can we find God’ and be saved. That is precisely what the Babylonian priests said about Nimrod when the blueprint for control-by-religion was being moulded in Babylon. Those who
refuse to believe this hogwash are condemned to stoke the fires of hell for all eternity. Staggeringly, billions upon billions have fallen for this scam over thousands of years, and still do. That’s fine if they want to give their minds and their lives away, but many insist that everyone else must do the same and that’s not fine. Seriously not fine. Most of the people reading this book will be from the parts of the world dominated by Christianity and Judaism and so I shall take those as the main examples of how symbolic stories have become literal truths and how the manipulation of these stories has produced the most powerful form of mass mind control yet invented. To understand the true background to the religions, we need to appreciate the basis of all ancient religion going back to the Phoenicians, the Babylonians and beyond. It was the Sun. The hierarchy focused on the Sun because, as I outlined earlier, they understood its true power as an amazing generator of electromagnetic energy which is affecting our lives and behaviour every second of every day The Sun contains 99% of the mass of this solar system. Just think about that. The Sun is the solar system and when it changes, we change. Understanding these Sun cycles, and the changing nature of the energy it projects, allows you to anticipate how human beings are most likely to react to various events at different times. ...To understand the ancient Sun symbolism is to understand the major religions. In the ancient world they used one particular symbol (see Figure 13) for the Sun’s journey through the year. As we will see in a later chapter, this is still a fundamental symbol used by the Babylonian Brotherhood. It symbolised both the Phoenician depictions of
Barati and was on the shield of her British expression, Britannia. The ancients took the circle of the zodiac (a Greek word meaning animal circle) and inserted a cross to mark the four seasons. At the centre of the cross, they placed the Sun. So many of the pre- Christian deities were said to have been born on December 25th because of this symbolism. On December 2lst-22nd, you have the winter solstice when, in the northern
hemisphere, the Sun is at the lowest point of its power in the annual cycle. The Sun, the ancients said, had symbolically ‘died’. By December 25th, the Sun had demonstrably begun its symbolic journey back to the summer and the peak of its power. The ancients, therefore, said that the Sun was ‘born’ on December 25th.The Christian Christmas is merely a renamed Pagan festival, as indeed are all Christian festivals.n ancient Babylon, Tammuz, the son of Queen Semiramis, was said to have been crucified with a lamb at his feet and placed in a cave. When a rock was rolled away from the cave’s entrance three days later, his body had disappeared. I’ve definitely heard that somewhere before. The ancients also symbolised the Sun as a baby in December, a youth
at Easter, a strapping, immensely strong, man in the summer, an ageing man losing his power in the autumn, and an old man by the winter solstice. The modern depiction of Old Father Time is a version of this. They also symbolised the Sun as having long golden hair (sun rays) which got shorter as he lost his power in the months of autumn. Now look again at the Old Testament story of Samson -Sam-sun. He was incredibly strong and had long hair, but he lost his power when his hair was cut. The problems started when he entered the House of Delilah - the astrological house of Virgo, the virgin, through which the Sun passes as autumn approaches. Summoning his last burst of power, Sam-the-Sun,
pushes down the two pillars, which are classic Brotherhood symbolism going back at least to ancient Egypt and are still used by the Freemasons today. Samson is Sam Sun - a symbolic story of the Sun’s annual cycle. There wasn’t any such person. In Hebrew, Samson means I understand, the God of the Sun. To the orthodox Christian, Jesus is the only begotten Son of God who died so our sins could be forgiven. But you will find exactly the same claims for a stream of ‘gods’ in the ancient world long before the name of ‘Jesus’ was even heard of. Indeed, we know his name wasn’t Jesus because that’s a Greek translation of a Hebrew name. The
term Son of God would seem to originate at least as far back as the Aryan Gothic kings of Cilicia who took the title ‘Son of the Sun God’, a tradition adopted by the Pharaohs of Egypt.1 To many in the New Age, Jesus is Sananda, a high initiate of some spiritual hierarchy who incarnated to infuse the Earth with the ‘Christ’ energy. Or, depending on who you talk to, he was an extraterrestrial on a similar mission. To others he was claiming to be the King of the ‘Jews’ by right of his King David bloodline. But did
Jesus actually exist? Did Moses, Solomon and King David exist? I would say categorically no. There is no credible evidence for the existence of any of them outside the biblical texts and they are certainly not credible. So where did they come from?OK, a little quiz. Who am I talking about?
He was born to a virgin by immaculate conception through the intervention of a holy spirit. This fulfilled an ancient prophecy. When he was born the ruling tyrant wanted to kill him. His parents had to flee to safety. All male children under the age of two were slain by the ruler as he sought to kill the child. Angels and shepherds were at his birth and he was given gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. He was worshipped as the saviour of men and led a moral and humble life. He performed miracles which included healing the sick, giving sight to the blind, casting out devils and raising the dead. He was put to death on the cross between two thieves. He descended to hell and rose from the dead to ascend back to
heaven.21 Sounds exactly like Jesus doesn’t it? But it’s not. That is how they described the Eastern saviour god known as Virishna 1,200 years before Jesus is claimed to have been born. If you want a saviour god who died so our sins could be forgiven, take your pick from the ancient
world because there are a stream of them, all originating with the Aryan and reptile-Aryan race that came out of the Near East and the Caucasus Mountains.
All but a few of those ‘sons of God’ or ‘prophets’, and the mind-prison religions founded in their names, come from the very lands occupied or influenced by peoples emerging from the Near East and the Caucasus. The lands of the Aryans and reptile-Aryans. Other ‘sons of God’ included Mithra or Mithras, the pre-Christian Roman-Persian god, and in Greece and
Asia Minor they had Dionysus and Bacchus. These were sons of God who died so our sins could be forgiven, born of a virgin mother, and their birthdays were on... December 25th!
Mithra was crucified, but raised from the dead on March 25th - Easter! Mithran initiations took place in caves adorned with the signs of Capricorn and Cancer, symbolic of the winter
reply to this please 'jesus is alvie'
Originally posted by Deano
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Horus was the the ‘son’ of God in Egypt. He was derived from the Babylonian Tammuz and, in turn, provided another blueprint for the later Jesus. THESE CONNECTIONS ARE DEVESTATING FOR THE CREDIBILITY OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH.: Jesus was the Light of the World. Horus was the Light of the World. Jesus said he was the way, the truth and the life. Horus said he was the truth, the life. Jesus was born in Bethlehem, the ‘house of bread’. Horus was born in Annu, the ‘place of bread’. Jesus was the Good Shepherd. Horus was the Good Shepherd. Seven fishers board a
boat with Jesus. Seven people board a boat with Horus. Jesus was the lamb. Horus was the lamb. Jesus is identified with a cross. Horus is identified with a cross. Jesus was baptised at 30. Horus was baptised at 30. Jesus was the child of a virgin, Mary. Horus was the child of a virgin, Isis. The birth of Jesus was marked by a star. The birth of Horus was marked by a star. Jesus was the child teacher in the temple. Horus
was the child teacher in the temple. Jesus had 12 disciples. Horus had 12 followers. Jesus was the Morning Star. Horus was the Morning Star. Jesus was the Christ. Horus was the Krst. Jesus was tempted on a mountain by Satan. Horus was tempted on a mountain by Set.23 Jesus is said to be the ‘judge of the dead’. He has some competition there. This was also said of the earlier Nimrod, Khrishna, Buddha, Ormuzd, Osiris, Aeacus and others.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last. So was Khrishna, Buddha, Laokiun, Bacchus, Zeus and others. Jesus is claimed to have performed miracles such as healing the sick and raising people from the dead. So did Khrishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Bochia, Horus, Osiris, Serapis, Marduk, Bacchus, Hermes and others. Jesus was born of royal blood. So was Buddha, Rama, Fo-hi, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Perseus and
others. Jesus was born to a virgin. So was Khrishna, Buddha, Lao-kiun or tsze, Confusius, Horus, Ra, Zoroaster, Prometheus, Perseus, Apollo, Mercury, Baldur, Quetzalcoatl and far too many others to mention. Jesus will, we are told, be born again.
The crucifixion of Jesus was an allegory, a symbolic event written to carry a hidden meaning. It did not physically happen, you are just meant to think it did. And what of the physical resurrection from the dead by Jesus?
St Paul is quoted as saying of this event in his first letter to the Corinthians:
“But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.” Corinthians 15:13-16
He says that if Jesus was not physically raised from the dead, there is no basis to the Christian faith and religion. If that’s the case, Christianity is in serious trouble.
Originally posted by Fëanor
are you being rhetorical? Jesus said many things. what we make of it is up to us to decide. i just don't follow that mind set that if i sin and do not repent, that i will forever burn in Hell for my transgression. To you...God is black and white (an opinionated guess of who you are) to others...he's shades of grey. to me...he/she is whatever i make him/her to be.
God the Author of confusion? Let's see...66 books called (The Bible) and we have no clue who He is?
Jesus is a sun symbol..
The invented character of Jesus was a Sun god, symbolic of God’s ‘Sun’... The Light of the World. This very phrase, Light of the World, was used by the Aryan-Phoenicians to symbolise the ‘one true god’ thousands of years before the alleged birth of Abraham, the quite wrongly named creator of the one-god concept. They also symbolised the one true god, the Sun, with the ‘one true cross’ The Christians portray Jesus with a halo around his head and that’s exactly how the Phoenicians depicted the rays of the Sun around the head of their Sun god, Bel or Bil. This can be seen on a Phoenician stone dating to about the 4th centurv BC . The Sun was at the heart of the Egyptian religion and at noon when the Sun was at the peak of its daily ‘journey’
To understand the true background to the religions, we need to appreciate the basis of all ancient religion going back to the Phoenicians, the Babylonians and beyond. It was the Sun. The hierarchy focused on the Sun because, as I outlined earlier, they understood its true power as an amazing generator of electromagnetic energy which is affecting our lives and behaviour every second of every day The Sun contains 99% of the mass of this solar system. Just think about that. The Sun is the solar system and when it changes, we change. Understanding these Sun cycles, and the changing nature of the energy it projects, allows you to anticipate how human beings are most likely to react to various events at different times. As with the texts that form the basis of the various religions, there are two levels of knowledge in Sun worship. In the ancient world, the hierarchy focused on the Sun because they knew its effect at a deep level, while the masses worshipped the Sun because its heat and light had an obvious and crucial role in ensuring an abundant harvest. In the same way, an initiate of the esoteric knowledge will read the Bible differently to a Christian or Jewish believer.
The initiate will recognise the symbolism, the numerology and the esoteric codes, while the believer takes the text literally So the same text acts as a means of passing on esoteric knowledge to the initiated and creates a prison-religion for the masses who are not initiated. Great scam.
The ancients took them circle of the zodiac (a Greek word meaning animal circle) and inserted a cross to mark the four seasons. At the centre of the cross, they placed the Sun. So many of the pre- Christian deities were said to have been born on December 25th because of this symbolism. On December 2lst-22nd, you have the winter solstice when, in the northern hemisphere, the Sun is at the lowest point of its power in the annual cycle. The Sun, the ancients said, had symbolically ‘died’. By December 25th, the Sun had demonstrably begun its symbolic journey back to the summer and the peak of its power.
The ancients, therefore, said that the Sun was ‘born’ on December 25th. The Christian Christmas is merely a renamed Pagan festival, as indeed are all Christian festivals. Easter is another.
About March 25th, the old fixed date for Easter, the Sun enters the astrological sign of Aries the ram or the lamb. At this time the ancients used to sacrifice lambs because they believed this would appease the gods, most notably the Sun god, and ensure abundant harvests. In other words they believed that the blood of the lamb would mean that their sins would be forgiven.
Did Jesus actually exist? Did Moses, Solomon and King David exist? I would say categorically no. There is no credible evidence for the existence of any of them outside the biblical texts and they are certainly not credible. So where did they come from?
OK, a little quiz. Who am I talking about?
He was born to a virgin by immaculate conception through the intervention of a holy spirit. This fulfilled an ancient prophecy.
When he was born the ruling tyrant wanted to kill him. His parents had to flee to safety.
All male children under the age of two were slain by the ruler as he sought to kill the child. Angels and shepherds were at his birth and he was
given gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.
He was worshipped as the saviour of men and led a moral and humble life. He performed miracles which included healing the sick, giving sight to the blind, casting out devils and raising the dead.
He was put to death on the cross between two thieves.
He descended to hell and rose from the dead to ascend back to heaven.
Sounds exactly like Jesus doesn’t it? But it’s not. That is how they described the Eastern saviour god known as Virishna 1,200 years before Jesus is claimed to have been born.
If you want a saviour god who died so our sins could be forgiven, take your pick from the ancient world because there are a stream of them, all originating with the Aryan race that came out of the Near East and the Caucasus Mountains
Christianity is a Pagan sun religion, the worship of which is condemned by Christianity! It is also an astrology religion, the‘evil’ of which is condemned by Christianity, not least by the Pope! Beam me up Scotty,it’s mad down here. The church hierarchy, of course, know all this. They just don’t want you to know.
Horus was the the ‘son’ of God in Egypt. He was derived from the Babylonian Tammuz and, in turn, provided another blueprint for the later Jesus. [b]The connections are devastating for the credibility of the Christian Church:
Jesus was the Light of the World. Horus was the Light of the World.
Jesus said he was the way, the truth and the life. Horus said he was the truth, the life.
Jesus was born in Bethlehem, the ‘house of bread’. Horus was born in Annu, the ‘place of bread’.
Jesus was the Good Shepherd. Horus was the Good Shepherd.
Seven fishers board a boat with Jesus. Seven people board a boat with Horus.
Jesus was the lamb. Horus was the lamb.
Jesus is identified with a cross. Horus is identified with a cross.
Jesus was baptised at 30. Horus was baptised at 30.
Jesus was the child of a virgin, Mary. Horus was the child of a virgin, Isis. The birth of Jesus was marked by a star. The birth of Horus was marked by a star.
Jesus was the child teacher in the temple. Horus was the child teacher in the temple.
Jesus had 12 disciples. Horus had 12 followers.
Jesus was the Morning Star. Horus was the Morning Star.
Jesus was the Christ. Horus was the Krst. Jesus was tempted on mountain by Satan. Horus was tempted on a mountain by Set.
Jesus is said to be the ‘judge of the dead’.
He has some competition there. This was also said of the earlier Nimrod, Khrishna, Buddha, Ormuzd, Osiris, Aeacus and others.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last. So was Khrishna, Buddha, Laokiun, Bacchus, Zeus and others. Jesus is claimed to have performed miracles such as healing the sick and raising people from the dead. So did Khrishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Bochia, Horus, Osiris, Serapis, Marduk, Bacchus, Hermes and others. Jesus was born of royal blood. So was Buddha, Rama, Fo-hi, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Perseus and others. Jesus was born to a virgin. So was Khrishna, Buddha, Lao-kiun or tsze,
Confusius, Horus, Ra, Zoroaster, Prometheus, Perseus, Apollo, Mercury, Baldur, Quetzalcoatl and far too many others to mention. Jesus will, we are told, be born again.
The sky is going to be rather crowded because Khrishna, Vishnu, Buddha,
Quetzalcoatl and others, will also be there.
The invented character of Jesus was a Sun god, symbolic of God’s ‘Sun’... The Light of the World. This very phrase, Light of the World, was used by the Aryan-Phoenicians to symbolise the ‘one true god’ thousands of years before the alleged birth of Abraham, the quite wrongly named creator of the one-god concept. They also symbolised the one true god, the Sun, with the ‘one true cross’ The Christians portray Jesus with a halo around his head and that’s exactly how the Phoenicians depicted the rays of the Sun around the head of their Sun god, Bel or Bil. This can be seen on a Phoenician stone dating to about the 4th centurv BC . The Sun was at the heart of the Egyptian religion and at noon when the Sun was at the peak of its daily ‘journey’
The crucifixion of Jesus was an allegory, a symbolic event written to carry a hidden meaning. It did not physically happen, you are just meant to think it did. And what of the physical resurrection from the dead by Jesus?
St Paul is quoted as saying of this event in his first letter to the Corinthians:
“But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.” Corinthians 15:13-16
He says that if Jesus was not physically raised from the dead, there is no basis to the Christian faith and religion. If that’s the case, Christianity is in serious trouble.
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