Jesus Christ

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
This is the most concise, accurate and down right truth of a post I have ever seen from you Lord Urizen. I agree 100%! This is a new beginning.

Thank You very much, but i would not consider it a new beginning. I always thought this way.

I have respect for almost EVERY religion out there, because I feel there are bits and pieces of collective TRUTH in all.

I admire Buddhim, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, and EVEN Atheism lol. However, instead of staying absolute to one version of truth, i take and subtract what I agree with from each one.

I consider myself very open minded, on every stance possible. However, to me, being TRULY open minded is when you are open to ALLLL POSSIBILITIES....not just something ONE BOOK tells you....I think that is where you and I may differ, but you are free to correct me on that opinion if I am wrong.

But thanks for the comment 👆

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Thank You very much, but i would not consider it a new beginning. I always thought this way.

I have respect for almost EVERY religion out there, because I feel there are bits and pieces of collective TRUTH in all.

I admire Buddhim, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, and EVEN Atheism lol. However, instead of staying absolute to one version of truth, i take and subtract what I agree with from each one.

I consider myself very open minded, on every stance possible. However, to me, being TRULY open minded is when you are open to [b]ALLLL POSSIBILITIES....not just something ONE BOOK tells you....I think that is where you and I may differ, but you are free to correct me on that opinion if I am wrong.

But thanks for the comment 👆 [/B]

The old saying that, "A man who doesn't stand for something will fall for anything." Applies to me. 😎

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
The old saying that, "A man who doesn't stand for something will fall for anything." Applies to me. 😎

That's fine no protest here.

I am not telling you to stop beleiving. I am only suggesting to you to keep a part of your mind open to the possibility that you may be wrong. I always do 😉

Just Remember: We don't know everything. No one does (Well atleast no one we know to truly exist does)

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That's fine no protest here.

I am not telling you to stop beleiving. I am only suggesting to you to keep a part of your mind open to the possibility that you may be wrong. I always do 😉

Just Remember: We don't know everything. No one does (Well atleast no one we know to truly exist does)

I may be wrong. But what is the difference with me and those who boldy say, "There is no god."

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That's fine no protest here.

I am not telling you to stop beleiving. I am only suggesting to you to keep a part of your mind open to the possibility that you may be wrong. I always do 😉

Just Remember: We don't know everything. No one does (Well atleast no one we know to truly exist does)

You are more reasonable than I earlier presumed.

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
You are more reasonable than I earlier presumed.

Thanks. I do try to put REASON before bias. 😉

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
I may be wrong. But what is the difference with me and those who boldy say, "There is no god."

Nothing. You are both speaking in Absolutes, and you may both be equally wrong.

God may or may not exist, I cannot say cuz i dont know. I just don't beleive anyone truly knows God in that kind of way though....It bugs me when people accuse someone else of disobeying God, when we dont know for SURE what God's will is.

Not really.

Its also common in many monarchies ✅

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
I may be wrong. But what is the difference with me and those who boldy say, "There is no god."

I'm about to make a thread on that. Stay tuned.

Originally posted by Jury
So God does not know everything. And nobody knows, including the true God, about EVERYTHING.

* that's not what i said... i said, there is something even the Father does not know... if you read the verse, you will know what God does not know...

"Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul ."
Deuteronomy 13:3

* that's the reason why God gives trials, "... to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul." ...

* the fact is simple, there is something God does not know... 😉

I also doubt your god would have a pre-knowledge about whether you are going to heavan or not.

* right now, God does not know... that's why there's a Judgment Day, right? the salvation of a person does not depend on whether you accepted something or not... we will be judged by our works, what we said, the intention of our hearts...

* for example, the once-apostle Judas Iscariot, if he never betrayed Christ and never stole money, and do things an apostle should do, he'll be saved, but since he became evil, he's damned... right? 😉

Perhaps God could know, because doesnt Siant Peter ot Paul or someone do the judging?

The Gospel of Judas said that Judas simply carried out his Lords will.

* in Judgment Day, in general, the Father will do the judging...

* true, the Gospel of Judas had that, however it does not conform with the other Gospels, even the Gnostic ones... this is another story...

* i'll give another example: Adam, the first man, he lost his salvation when he blatantly disobeyed God... 😉

Many parts of the bible dont conform to one another...especially the gospels. Judas is just another fresh point of view on a subject where there is essentialy nothing written about.

Originally posted by peejayd
* that's not what i said... i said, there is something even the Father does not know... if you read the verse, you will know what God does not know...

"Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul ."
Deuteronomy 13:3

* that's the reason why God gives trials, "... to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul." ...

* the fact is simple, there is something God does not know... 😉

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
Your answer is that while Jesus was here. He bore the sins of the world. There was a separation in that He was sin for us. God is righteous and cannot dwell with sin. Jesus was separated up to His death. This is why He said, "Father why have you forsaken Me?"

Some people interpret him as so, some poeple don't.