Jesus Christ

Originally posted by Marchello
*["...I have my own morality....you have yours....the morality of Jerry Falwell perhaps..."]

***Nah...Jerry Falwell says many good things...and some bad things. However, he does NOT speak for me...for I alone am responsible for what I say.

You say you have your own morality. I am curious about that. Please tell me about your sense of morality...and upon what it is based. What is the underlying authority for your morality?

Marchello

Wow....you mean you are ACTUALLY curious as to know my perspective, rather than just shove your rhetoric down my throat? Dude, I'm impressed !

Okay, I will tell you:

I do not beleive any book or human guideline can fully determine a universal morality. MY morality is based on Love....respect, tolerance, and appreciation for each other, especially in recognizing, accepting, and even celebrating our differences.

I beleive that as long as you are not intentionally hurting a person or animal, then you are a good person and deserve good in return. That simple.

I beleive Evil, true evil, is the promotion of conflict. Negativities such as prejudice, hatred, intolerance, ignorance, close mindedness, rape, murder, lack of concern, greed, and the like.

I beleive we are ALL ONE...YES MARCELLO....even YOU AND I...you may beleive that we are not one....that you are of God, and I am of Satan, or whatever myth you'd like to push.

But you and I have MORE IN COMMON than we have in difference. We are both human beings, we are both children of this Earth. We are both mortal, imperfect, striving human beings who must learn to accept each other.

If you look at this from a third party, you will easily see that it is YOU who refuses to see me an as equal...to see me and care for me the way you care for yourself. I would easily accept you if that was what you wished. But I truly beleive you are filled with zealous bias, and irrational Hate.

Sorry...but that is what I truly beleive. You will never accept me as an equal to you because you see me as inferior because of my supposed "sins" based on a book that has no factual basis whatsoever.

I am sorry that your mind is so closed off.....but the fact that you even ASKED me about my morality gives me Hope that there is still a rational human being existant behind all the darkness.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Wow....you mean you are ACTUALLY curious as to know my perspective, rather than just shove your rhetoric down my throat? Dude, I'm impressed !

Okay, I will tell you:

I do not beleive any book or human guideline can fully determine a universal morality. MY morality is based on Love....respect, tolerance, and appreciation for each other, especially in recognizing, accepting, and even celebrating our differences.

I beleive that as long as you are not intentionally hurting a person or animal, then you are a good person and deserve good in return. That simple.

I beleive Evil, [b]true evil, is the promotion of conflict. Negativities such as prejudice, hatred, intolerance, ignorance, close mindedness, rape, murder, lack of concern, greed, and the like.

I beleive we are ALL ONE...YES MARCELLO....even YOU AND I...you may beleive that we are not one....that you are of God, and I am of Satan, or whatever myth you'd like to push.

But you and I have MORE IN COMMON than we have in difference. We are both human beings, we are both children of this Earth. We are both mortal, imperfect, striving human beings who must learn to accept each other.

If you look at this from a third party, you will easily see that it is YOU who refuses to see me an as equal...to see me and care for me the way you care for yourself. I would easily accept you if that was what you wished. But I truly beleive you are filled with zealous bias, and irrational Hate.

Sorry...but that is what I truly beleive. You will never accept me as an equal to you because you see me as inferior because of my supposed "sins" based on a book that has no factual basis whatsoever.

I am sorry that your mind is so closed off.....but the fact that you even ASKED me about my morality gives me Hope that there is still a rational human being existant behind all the darkness. [/B]

You are far more optimistic then me. I will learn from this.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are far more optimistic then me. I will learn from this.

😆

Actually, I consider YOU my philisophical superior.

It's probably just because your Buddhist, and I am stereotyping lol

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
😆

Actually, I consider YOU my philisophical superior.

It's probably just because your Buddhist, and I am stereotyping lol

I am simply older then you. I can learn from you just as much as you can learn from me.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am simply older then you. I can learn from you just as much as you can learn from me.

I'll drink to that ✅

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
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Actually, I consider YOU my philisophical superior.

It's probably just because your Buddhist, and I am stereotyping lol

Buddhism is WAY overrated.

Originally posted by Alliance
Buddhism is WAY overrated.

I thought is was underrated. But I understand what you are saying. Buddhists are just as human as everyone else.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I thought is was underrated. But I understand what you are saying. Buddhists are just as human as everyone else.

Yep, as in human=flawed.

Originally posted by Alliance
Yep, as in human=flawed.

However, a perfect human cannot grow, and that is a bigger flaw.

so since none of us want to be perfect, why do we want to see god within ourselves?

Originally posted by Alliance
so since none of us want to be perfect, why do we want to see god within ourselves?

Who wants to see god within ourselves?

People who say "we are god" 😉

Quit the accusations and assumptions, from both sides.

Originally posted by Storm
Quit the accusations and assumptions, from both sides.

I hope that wans't in reference to shakya and I 😕

Originally posted by Storm
Quit the accusations and assumptions, from both sides.

I am sorry, but I don't understand. We are having a good conversation about the superhuman, and we have almost come to an agreement. However, if our conversation is upsetting you, I will stop.

I don't think it was in reference to us.

This thread has been reported and I don' t want to give the impression I' m ignoring anything, but nor do I want to single out one person as all of you - throughout several threads - have been and still are being involved in accusing each other of being bigots, close-minded, idiots, etc. This doesn' t end in one thread, without popping up in another.

Originally posted by Storm
This thread has been reported and I don' t want to give the impression I' m ignoring anything, but nor do I want to single out one person as all of you - throughout several threads - have been and still are being involved in accusing each other of being bigots, close-minded, idiots, etc. This doesn' t end in one thread, without popping up in another.

You are absolutely right. From now on instead of lowering myself to people like Marcello, I'll just say nothing or ignore.

I can't accuse him of being obnoxious if I become obnoxios back. ❌

I think the major aspect of a strictly, pro-biblical stance is willful ignorance. People who say the bible is the divine word of god are willfully ignoring the history of teh book. Most of it was written hundreds of years after Jesus lived. Most of it is second hand accounts. It has been edited many times. The dozens upon dozens of gospels have been cherry-picked and condensed to serve the purpose of the clergy hundreds of years after the gospels were written. Dozens of those gospels have been denounced despite their being more credible sources of the truth of Jesus' teachings. The list goes on and on.

And people want to tout this as the infallible word of, not only god, but Jesus himself.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I think the major aspect of a strictly, pro-biblical stance is willful ignorance. People who say the bible is the divine word of god are willfully ignoring the history of teh book. Most of it was written hundreds of years after Jesus lived. Most of it is second hand accounts. It has been edited many times. The dozens upon dozens of gospels have been cherry-picked and condensed to serve the purpose of the clergy hundreds of years after the gospels were written. Dozens of those gospels have been denounced despite their being more credible sources of the truth of Jesus' teachings. The list goes on and on.

And people want to tout this as the infallible word of, not only god, but Jesus himself.

The Bible has proven to be anything but infallible already. It is self evident.

Sadly, we have bigots widely representing the Christian Faith. The SCARIEST part is they actually beleive thier bigotry to be a form of LOVE. That's what terrifies me.....

Christian bigotry is not an INTENTIONAL attempt at cruelty. They actually think they are doing the right thing in thier hatred and ignorance.