Jesus Christ

Originally posted by peejayd
* i'm not casting away nor rationalizing anyone... it's the truth in the Bible, there are many false gods, false prophets, false ministers, false christians... my point is simple - true Christians are categorized in the Bible, if they don't fit there, they really are not Christians as they claim they were...

"If any man's will is to do his will, he shall know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority.
He who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory; but he who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and in him there is no falsehood."
John 7:17-18

* Jesus says, the teaching should be according to the Bible, not according to their own interpretation...

"Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples,
And you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32

* true Christians continue in Jesus' words... it's not like, having baptized and you are already saved, nope... 😉

You are assuming that Jesus was talking about the bible. The bible was not even finished being written in the time of Jesus. The bible wasn't finished until Constantine had his big meeting 300 years later.

* the Council of Nicaea was out of the question... Jesus was talking about true disciples that continue to abide by His words... and Jesus' words and teachings are in the Bible... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* the Council of Nicaea was out of the question... Jesus was talking about true disciples that continue to abide by His words... and Jesus' words and teachings are in the Bible... 😉

But there is more then just the words of Jesus in the bible, and there are other books that hold the words of Jesus, that are not the bible.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But there is more then just the words of Jesus in the bible, and there are other books that hold the words of Jesus, that are not the bible.

indeed. But a middle ages bishop said they don't count. So there.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
indeed. But a middle ages bishop said they don't count. So there.

So, not only did man write the bible, he edited the bible also.

*["Allah is the Arabic name for God. Did you know that Arabic Christians and Jews say Allah as well? obviously not..."]

***Allah is the name of the idol [piece of rock...i.e., Allat] that the Arabic Moslems call their god...but Arabic Christians are NOT idol worshippers and call God Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God [i.e., the Father]. Too, Jews DO NOT call the God of Israel "allah"...they call the God of Israel [i.e., the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob] "HaShem."

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*["...Oh and Jesus Christ is NOT GOD YOU ****ING RETARD. JESUS IS A MAN..."]

***You say you were born in 1992? That makes you a sniveling 14 year-old with a filthy mouth. Someone ought to grab you by the nap of the neck and slap you silly...then stick a bar of soap in your dirty mouth until you gag! It's too bad your "parents" didn't do that when you were a little younger...if they had done so you would NOT be the little "creep" you are now.

Jesus Christ, to us who believe the Scriptures [BOTH old and new], IS God who clothed Himself in flesh and became a MAN to save us from the consequences of our sins. If you had ever read the Bible you would know what the Bible says about that...even if you did not believe it.

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*["...Infact, JESUS CHRIST isn't even his real name -- believe it or not. The fact that Jesus as shown NO signs that he is any more of anything than L. Ron Hubbard proves you wrong. Jesus is a prophet, in fact, the things he said are pretty much what a whole lot of other people were saying aswell. Making him less of a prophet..."]

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*["...And JIA hasn't replied to anything I've said, so I don't think he'll know I've said it..."]

***How can he respond?...you've said NOTHING...absolutely NOTHING!

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*["...and sinse he has no friends, no one else will be offended..."}

***No friends? How do you know that? JIA's got me for a friend. In fact, He's my brother-in-Christ Jesus...and I'm offended by your ignorant remarks. It is YOU who has NO FRIENDS on this board. If you think for one moment that anyone of your "friends" on this board really cares about you...you are DELUSIONAL. Too, they're NOT your "friends"...they're your "enemies" for they know NOT God and can offer you NOTHING that will point you to the true God...who is Jesus Christ the Lord.

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*[...but if it needs to be edited, then I'm sorry, and I won't do it again."]

***Yeah, right...and Santa Claus comes in the summertime, too!

Marchello

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But there is more then just the words of Jesus in the bible, and there are other books that hold the words of Jesus, that are not the bible.

* like the Apocryphal books? the Gnostic gospels? i've read them and i found they are not really in accord with the others books in the Bible... still, Jesus said that His true disciples are those who continue to abide by His words... and i have continuously discussed this according to your barring constrictions that limits only to the words spoken by Jesus... 😉

***Yeah, right...and Santa Claus comes in the summertime, too!

Marchello

He comes to Australia in the summer time - since it is summer when we have Christmas. 😉

Originally posted by Marchello
***Allah is the name of the idol [piece of rock...i.e., Allat] that the Arabic Moslems call their god...but Arabic Christians are NOT idol worshippers and call God Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God [i.e., the Father]. Too, Jews DO NOT call the God of Israel "allah"...they call the God of Israel [i.e., the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob] "HaShem."

Allah is two things:

1) The Moon God that existed in myth before Islam was established

2) The Arabic word for "God"

You are right about one thing: He is just a myth like your God is.

Originally posted by Marchello
******You say you were born in 1992? That makes you a sniveling 14 year-old with a filthy mouth. Someone ought to grab you by the nap of the neck and slap you silly...then stick a bar of soap in your dirty mouth until you gag! It's too bad your "parents" didn't do that when you were a little younger...if they had done so you would NOT be the little "creep" you are now.

You sound so typically Conservative.....another Jerry Falwell clone ? OH NO ! 😘

Originally posted by Marchello
***Jesus Christ, to us who believe the Scriptures [BOTH old and new], IS God who clothed Himself in flesh and became a MAN to save us from the consequences of our sins. If you had ever read the Bible you would know what the Bible says about that...even if you did not believe it.

I read the Bible..it says a great many things....

I beleive none of it though. It's all Fiction. ✅

Originally posted by Marchello
******How can he respond?...you've said NOTHING...absolutely NOTHING!

Jesusisalive ignores valid points that he cannot counter. That is unadmirable and proves how ignorant and full of sh*t he really is. You as well seem very full of yourself and full of nothing but ignorance and blind rage. Go figure....

Originally posted by Marchello
******No friends? How do you know that? JIA's got me for a friend. In fact, He's my brother-in-Christ Jesus...and I'm offended by your ignorant remarks. It is YOU who has NO FRIENDS on this board. If you think for one moment that anyone of your "friends" on this board really cares about you...you are DELUSIONAL. Too, they're NOT your "friends"...they're your "enemies" for they know NOT God and can offer you NOTHING that will point you to the true God...who is Jesus Christ the Lord.

My mother never taught me about God....is she really my mother ? Does she really love me ? 😮

My freinds accept me for who I am and love me very much. Are you telling me that because they do not force God down my throat that they do not truly love me ?

Are you going to tell me that my boyfreind doesn't really love me ? 🙄

When will you learn...LOVE is not Christian...it is not Muslim...it is not Hindu...it is not Buddhist.

Love is INDEPENDENT of religion and all mythology alike. Please stop defning Love as blind ignorance, thank you.

Originally posted by Marchello
*["Allah is the Arabic name for God. Did you know that Arabic Christians and Jews say Allah as well? obviously not..."]

***Allah is the name of the idol [piece of rock...i.e., Allat] that the Arabic Moslems call their god...but Arabic Christians are NOT idol worshippers and call God Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God [i.e., the Father]. Too, Jews DO NOT call the God of Israel "allah"...they call the God of Israel [i.e., the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob] "HaShem."
Marchello

Sigh how many times do we have to show proof that this is not really accurate, this is why I do not think you and JIA are not legit, you do not listen, check out the other thread where JIA posts what you did, we debunk his sources and basically his claims. Post about Christianity all you want, I can not stop you and I am sure you have a lot of knowledge in that field, but stop posting about stuff you have no idea about.

Originally posted by crazy
Sigh how many times do we have to show proof that this is not really accurate, this is why I do not think you and JIA are not legit, you do not listen, check out the other thread where JIA posts what you did, we debunk his sources and basically his claims. Post about Christianity all you want, I can not stop you and I am sure you have a lot of knowledge in that field, but stop posting about stuff you have no idea about.

you have no faith...heathen. To believe in jesus and his father, god, requires that you have no answers or evidence. DUH!

*["Allah is two things:

1) The Moon God that existed in myth before Islam was established..."]

***However, the "allah" that existed before Islam was NOT the Biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles..."allah" has ALWAYS been nothing but a piece of rock...an inanimate object worshipped by ignorant pagans. In fact, he was the "moon-god" who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters. Too, the Sumerians worshipped the "moon-god" and called him by many different names [i.e., Nanna, Suen and Asimbabbar]...and his symbol was the crescent moon. The cult of the "moon-god" was the ost popular religion throughout ancient Mesopotamia. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Akkadoans took the word "Suen" and transformed it into the word "Sin" as their favorite name for the "moon-god."

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*[...2) The Arabic word for "God"..."]

***It is the word for "God" to the pagan Arabs...but it has NEVER been the word for "God" for Christians and Jews...for obvious reasons...we DON'T worship inanimate pieces of rock.

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*["...You are right about one thing: He is just a myth like your God is..."]

***Your opinion is of no consequence...for all it is is just that...opinion. Too, MOST opinions are NOT based on fact...and, as such, are only SUPPOSITIONS.

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*[...You sound so typically Conservative.....another Jerry Falwell clone ? OH NO ! 😘..."]

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*["...I read the Bible..."]

***That's nice.

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*["...it says a great many things...I beleive none of it though. It's all Fiction. ✅..."]

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*["...Jesusisalive ignores valid points that he cannot counter. That is unadmirable and proves how ignorant and full of sh*t he really is. You as well seem very full of yourself and full of nothing but ignorance and blind rage. Go figure...."]

***N/A

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*["...My mother never taught me about God....is she really my mother ? Does she really love me ? 😮..."]

***I NEVER talk about anybody's mother.

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*["...My freinds accept me for who I am..."]

***Who are you?

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*["...and love me very much. Are you telling me that because they do not force God down my throat that they do not truly love me?..."]

***They, like you, DON'T know God...so they CAN'T shove something down your throat that they know NOTHING ABOUT.

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*["...Are you going to tell me that my boyfreind doesn't really love me ? 🙄..."]

***I'm sure you think he does.

Marchello

Originally posted by Marchello
*["Allah is two things:

1) The Moon God that existed in myth before Islam was established..."]

***However, the "allah" that existed before Islam was NOT the Biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles..."allah" has ALWAYS been nothing but a piece of rock...an inanimate object worshipped by ignorant pagans. In fact, he was the "moon-god" who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters. Too, the Sumerians worshipped the "moon-god" and called him by many different names [i.e., Nanna, Suen and Asimbabbar]...and his symbol was the crescent moon. The cult of the "moon-god" was the ost popular religion throughout ancient Mesopotamia. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Akkadoans took the word "Suen" and transformed it into the word "Sin" as their favorite name for the "moon-god."

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*[...2) The Arabic word for "God"..."]

***It is the word for "God" to the pagan Arabs...but it has NEVER been the word for "God" for Christians and Jews...for obvious reasons...we DON'T worship inanimate pieces of rock.

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*["...You are right about one thing: He is just a myth like your God is..."]

***Your opinion is of no consequence...for all it is is just that...opinion. Too, MOST opinions are NOT based on fact...and, as such, are only SUPPOSITIONS.

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*[...You sound so typically Conservative.....another Jerry Falwell clone ? OH NO ! 😘..."]

***N/A

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*["...I read the Bible..."]

***That's nice.

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*["...it says a great many things...I beleive none of it though. It's all Fiction. ✅..."]

***N/A

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*["...Jesusisalive ignores valid points that he cannot counter. That is unadmirable and proves how ignorant and full of sh*t he really is. You as well seem very full of yourself and full of nothing but ignorance and blind rage. Go figure...."]

***N/A

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*["...My mother never taught me about God....is she really my mother ? Does she really love me ? 😮..."]

***I NEVER talk about anybody's mother.

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*["...My freinds accept me for who I am..."]

***Who are you?

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*["...and love me very much. Are you telling me that because they do not force God down my throat that they do not truly love me?..."]

***They, like you, DON'T know God...so they CAN'T shove something down your throat that they know NOTHING ABOUT.

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*["...Are you going to tell me that my boyfreind doesn't really love me ? 🙄..."]

***I'm sure you think he does.

Marchello

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Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
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Originally posted by sonnet
You are absolutely right.

Nothing else is required from you. Thanks. I appreciate being told I'm right just as much as the next man. However, I need baby Jesus and all his impotent, self-loathing friends to come down here and tell me I'm wrong. See, that's what you don't get. Your word isn't good enough for me. I've heard lots of people talk out of their asses. As soon as I see baby Jesus die on a cross and come back to life three days later, I'll believe your bullshit fairy tale. Until then, you and yours can keep your uneducated, ignorant, fat mouths shut. Just as soon as I see baby Jesus do something worth worshiping, I'll fall on my knees too. But until then, I'll keep a healthy measure of common sense and skepticism about me. See, i don't believe in fairy tales just because I heard them from a man in a white collar while he had his hand down my pants. But, by all means, you go on thinking you have the market cornered. And I'll go on living in the real world while it passes you by. I hope heaven is all you want it to be, because you're wasting your life by preparing for it. How sad will you be when you die and there's no harp music or winged aryans? I just hope you're as pissed as you deserve to be. After all, I'd be pissed if I wasted my whole life expecting one thing and getting another.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
. As soon as I see baby Jesus die on a cross and come back to life three days later, I'll believe your bullshit fairy tale.

baby Jesus????
😆
You REALLY got it all wrong.

Originally posted by sonnet
baby Jesus????
😆
You REALLY got it all wrong.

HAAAAHHAAAAHHHHAAAA....

so do you, douche bag.

That's what makes you stupid. You think you know everything. You think I used the term "baby" out of stupidity.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
HAAAAHHAAAAHHHHAAAA....

so do you, douche bag.

That's what makes you stupid. You think you know everything. You think I used the term "baby" out of stupidity.

😆
You REALLY are soooooo funny!!!!

Cut out the personal attacks.

Originally posted by Marchello **********************************************[/B]

Gee, for someone who knows God, you'd imagine they know how to use the QUOTE feature....🙄

Originally posted by Marchello ***It is the word for "God" to the pagan Arabs...but it has NEVER been the word for "God" for Christians and Jews...for obvious reasons...we DON'T worship inanimate pieces of rock.[/B]

Allah, Yahweh, and Jehovah are all names for the SAME Monotheistic Patriarchal Myth...God.

You may not worship a rock, but you worship a book with fairy tales, and you worship a Cross....hmm.......

Originally posted by Marchello ***Your opinion is of no consequence...for all it is is just that...opinion. Too, MOST opinions are NOT based on fact...and, as such, are only SUPPOSITIONS. [/B]

Geez...the utter HYPOCRISY !

Practice what you Preach !

All of your beleifs are just based on Faith, and have no factual basis to support it. The Bible is not, was never, and will never be FACT. When will you understand that? It's all myth and just as valid as Greek Mythology.

BTW, check out my Christian Mythology thread. I would appreciate your input on how Christianity was heavily influenced by the religions that preceded it.

Please try not to get a stroke as you read it....

Originally posted by Marchello ***That's nice.[/B]

Isn't it ? 🙂

Originally posted by Marchello ***I NEVER talk about anybody's mother.[/B]

You said that the only way someone can truly love you is if they teach you about God. My mom is not religious, and has never taught me about the Christian God.

Does my mother not love me then ? By your absurd logic ?

Originally posted by Marchello *["...My freinds accept me for who I am..."]

***Who are you?[/B]

I'm a f@g like Captn Fantastic baby !

Originally posted by Marchello ***They, like you, DON'T know God...so they CAN'T shove something down your throat that they know NOTHING ABOUT.[/B]

But you seem to speak a whole lot about sh*t you know nothing about ....

Yes...my freinds HAPPEN to be CHRISTIAN...so yes, they know quite a few things about the myth of God and the fairy tales in the Bible...yet they never tried to shove it down my throat, up my ass, or in any other orface.

Unlike you who wants to shove Bibles up everyone's rectum ...

Originally posted by Marchello ***I'm sure you think he does. [/B]

And you have proof that he doesn't? Since when do Christian's OWN Love ? Is Love something that ONLY Christians are capable of ? If you really beleive that then you more f*cking deluded than JIA !

What about this.....I LOVE HIM...are you going to attempt to refute that argument? Oh just you try....

Originally posted by Marchello Marchello [/B]

Yes, yes, we know who you are.....enuff with the "JM" and "DMB" signatures at the end of your worthless posts, I'm starting to think you are actually WHOB incarnate.