Jesus Christ

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Originally posted by Marchello
*["...God is not a absolute truth, it is not testable by the scientific method. A piece of literature does not make it fact."]

***If God is not absolute truth because the fact that He is...is not testable by the scientific method...how, then, can you say with "absolute certainty" that He is NOT...if you cannot test that He is NOT by the same scientific method? The ABSENCE of your untestable scientific method data does not make your contention a fact.

Marchello

Not actually, in fact the opposite. This is from the Sydney Morning Herald book review of Richard Dawkins new book, The God Delusion:

Believers say Faith can't be examined emprically. They say you can't find God by reading science books and wieghing facts. Maybe not, Dawkins would counter, but you can find against him.

The problem with you argument there is that the lack of proof somehow confirms the existence of God. It doesn't. It shows there is no proof to support him. Saying "Buuuuut that's the way God wants it" is equally silly when evidence arises with increasing frequency which does not support Biblical claims.

It seems damning evidence can be found against the existence of a deity, but none for him. Tell me, why does you God feel the need to have a world in which the evidence points away from the deity and nothing but blind faith towards?

(Full review at the following site)The God Delusion- Review

Woops, double post.

Originally posted by Marchello
*["I agree. If you want to be an adult...act like one. 'SO BAN ME' is most often used by 13 year-olds."]

***Really? That's very interesting. Do you have any statistics to support your contention? Would you please cite them for our internet audience? Your cooperation on this request would be greatly appreciated.

Your friend,

Marchello

It was a gerenal observation. Usually member who say that get restricted.

Would you like to counter my posts or are you just interested in flaming?

Originally posted by Marchello
*["I will, I really will, and if you defy me to again, then that will be that."]

***I'm DEFYING you right now! Do what you say you are going to do...then ask me if I care.

Marchello

I do believe that is a rather childish approach to the whole deal. Perhaps the following will inspire you to contribute rather then impotantly cry out "well ban me then, see if I care!"

Though they do say Christians often have a persecution complex

*["It was a gerenal observation. Usually member who say that get restricted.

Would you like to counter my posts or are you just interested in flaming?"]

***You just have to learn to stop speaking in "glittering generalities." You spoke an untruth and attributed to me something that you allege is usually spoken by 13 year old kids. All I asked for is for you to prove what you attributed to them. You can't...and that's the name of that toon.

Marchello

Originally posted by Marchello
*["It was a gerenal observation. Usually member who say that get restricted.

Would you like to counter my posts or are you just interested in flaming?"]

***You just have to learn to stop speaking in "glittering generalities." You spoke an untruth and attributed to me something that you allege is usually spoken by 13 year old kids. All I asked for is for you to prove what you attributed to them. You can't...and that's the name of that toon.

Marchello

You are kidding right, you really expect facts for a statement like that, I guess I have to be saved and have the holy flowing through me to understand your logic.

Well, Marchello is now taking some time off.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I will, I really will, and if you defy me to again, then that will be that.

Behold the power of a mod. hehe
💃
Yay, good going Ush.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
While it is true that lack of scientific data does not make the claim "God does not exist" Fact, it is also true that Biblical rhetoric does not make the claim "God is absolute truth because he simply is" fact either ❌

Let us presuppose that the assumed premise you have stated is correct. One could still not logically presume that the preclusive predisposition of 'scientific data' being valid, would logically support the conclusive post-disposition of 'God does not exist.'

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Logically, XMarksthespot has a much more valid point than yourself, because atleast X can use credible data to support it's beleif that God does not exist, while all you can use is an outdated book and a barrage of insults.

Congratulations on commiting the Logic Fallacy of Appeal to Popularity. 🙄

One cannot presume any data as being 'credible' strictly based on the assumption of it being supported by a biased majority, i.e. aethiest scientific researchers and journalists.

Moreover, 'XMarksthespot' has no more credibility in his beliefs than any Christian. Specifically when the argument presented against 'credibility', exclusively uses scientific research conducted by those of popular-Humanistic opinion.

sock?

😂 Great name "The Barbarian"...fitting.

Originally posted by Marchello
*["...God is not a absolute truth, it is not testable by the scientific method. A piece of literature does not make it fact."]

***If God is not absolute truth because the fact that He is...is not testable by the scientific method...how, then, can you say with "absolute certainty" that He is NOT...if you cannot test that He is NOT by the same scientific method? The ABSENCE of your untestable scientific method data does not make your contention a fact.

Marchello

It was a unfair comparison...
It can't be proven by science, it's not a scientific law. I never said that the evidence concludes that god is nonexistent.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well, Marchello is now taking some time off.

Thank You Ush.....the Blind Raging Hatred that spawns from his posts was quite disturbing. I hope he learns to clean up his act.

Originally posted by The_Barbarian
Let us presuppose that the assumed premise you have stated is correct. One could still not logically presume that the preclusive predisposition of 'scientific data' being valid, would logically support the conclusive post-disposition of 'God does not exist.'

Congratulations on commiting the Logic Fallacy of Appeal to Popularity. 🙄

One cannot presume any data as being 'credible' strictly based on the assumption of it being supported by a biased majority, i.e. aethiest scientific researchers and journalists.

Moreover, 'XMarksthespot' has no more credibility in his beliefs than any Christian. Specifically when the argument presented against 'credibility', exclusively uses scientific research conducted by those of popular-Humanistic opinion.

Ush, you might be asking yourself "Who is this now?". Well, it's Whob's aggressivly extended middle finger. Telling you exactly what you can do with your position as a moderator and what we can all do with this forum.

😂 Poetic.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well, Marchello is now taking some time off.

well deserved time off?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
well deserved time off?

Yes.

He insulted the hell out of both me and Captain Fantastic numerous times, as well as insulting some other people.

He has also called Homosexuals "disgusting" and "deserving of going to Hell" repeatedly.

When Ushgarak threatened to ban him, Marcello yelled " GO AHEAD ! BAN ME!"

Dude, he deserved it.

i never got that. "lets diss the mods!!!"

especially one as distinguished as ush.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i never got that. "lets diss the mods!!!"

especially one as distinguished as ush.

Well, Marcello challenged Ush disrespectfully, and got what he deserved.

Re: Is God and Jesus the same person?

Is God and Jesus the same person?

Yes and No

Re: Re: Is God and Jesus the same person?

Originally posted by LFBC_Gir
Is God and Jesus the same person?

Yes and No

😆 Another Contradiction !