Originally posted by Shakyamunison
OK then... the Mystic Law has all the others gods within it.
That's a cop-out, and also a religious cliche.
😛
"The one true God is all the gods rolled into one, and greater than them all. All of Creation and Non-Creation bend to His Mighty Will". It sounds vaguely Christian to us, but that could be applied to the descriptions of dozens of gods.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
That's a cop-out, and also a religious cliche.😛
"The one true God is all the gods rolled into one, and greater than them all. All of Creation and Non-Creation bend to His Mighty Will". It sounds vaguely Christian to us, but that could be applied to the descriptions of dozens of gods.
I didnt understood that post AT ALL! 😱
Originally posted by DigiMark007
That's a cop-out, and also a religious cliche.😛
"The one true God is all the gods rolled into one, and greater than them all. All of Creation and Non-Creation bend to His Mighty Will". It sounds vaguely Christian to us, but that could be applied to the descriptions of dozens of gods.
But you don't even know what th Mystic Laws is.
http://www.buddhistinformation.com/entity_of_the_mystic_law.htm
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
John 1:1,14, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....14And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."
Why do you believe the bible?
No one seems to be able to answer this question.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But you don't even know what th Mystic Laws is.http://www.buddhistinformation.com/entity_of_the_mystic_law.htm
A moot point (though I actually read through most of that link). My point was simply that the description you applied to it ("It contains all gods"😉 is a nigh-laughable religious cliche, used by religious zealots throughout history to proclaim theirs as the "One True God" or in your case the One True Law.
And many ideas from this concept are borrowed, just as most myths are. Buddhism is smart by making most things metaphoric rather than literal truth, but I couldn't help but hear overtones of Christian doctrine in lines like "those without faith will be subjected to the Avichi hell" and those with/without the lotus in the "Latter Days of the Law" similar to Christ "coming again in the latter days to judge the living and the dead". Of course, they don't mean exactly the same thing to each religion, but the influence is there when you cut through the dogma and look at the core meaning and/or semantics used to describe it.
I'm not saying this invalidates your philosophy. On the contrary, I generally have less problem with Buddhism than most philosophies. But it's important to remember that it isn't a singular entity of truth among false doctrines....merely a different spin on the same ideas (Mystic Law for God, Lotus for Heaven/Christ/etc.) that transcend religion and culture.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
A moot point (though I actually read through most of that link). My point was simply that the description you applied to it ("It contains all gods"😉 is a nigh-laughable religious cliche, used by religious zealots throughout history to proclaim theirs as the "One True God" or in your case the One True Law.And many ideas from this concept are borrowed, just as most myths are. Buddhism is smart by making most things metaphoric rather than literal truth, but I couldn't help but hear overtones of Christian doctrine in lines like "those without faith will be subjected to the Avichi hell" and those with/without the lotus in the "Latter Days of the Law" similar to Christ "coming again in the latter days to judge the living and the dead". Of course, they don't mean exactly the same thing to each religion, but the influence is there when you cut through the dogma and look at the core meaning and/or semantics used to describe it.
I'm not saying this invalidates your philosophy. On the contrary, I generally have less problem with Buddhism than most philosophies. But it's important to remember that it isn't a singular entity of truth among false doctrines....merely a different spin on the same ideas (Mystic Law for God, Lotus for Heaven/Christ/etc.) that transcend religion and culture.
Yes, you have a valid point.
There is an aspect of my religion that is just like any other religion. I personally reject some of the parts you mentioned above.
Life and religion are like a cafeteria; you take what works for you, and leave the rest.
I know people in my own Buddhist group that see Nam Myoho Renge Kyo as something magical and supernatural. I simply let them believe as they wish.
I believe at the very core of Buddhism is the idea that magical/supernatural is nothing but a delusion. However, I don’t throw the baby out with the bath water, because there are many wonderful ideas in Nichiren Buddhism that work for me.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, you have a valid point.There is an aspect of my religion that is just like any other religion. I personally reject some of the parts you mentioned above.
Life and religion are like a cafeteria; you take what works for you, and leave the rest.
I know people in my own Buddhist group that see Nam Myoho Renge Kyo as something magical and supernatural. I simply let them believe as they wish.
I believe at the very core of Buddhism is the idea that magical/supernatural is nothing but a delusion. However, I don’t throw the baby out with the bath water, because there are many wonderful ideas in Nichiren Buddhism that work for me.
Fair enough. "Cafeteria" religion seems to be the way of many intelligent people (I like the baby analogy, btw). And I do it just like anyone else, though it's to the point that I can't call myself any one religion/philosophy because the selection of philosophies is so sporadic, and because I can't help but see the overlap in many of them so it makes it pointless to say "I'm this" when it could equally mean "I'm something else" depending on how you interpret teachings.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Fair enough. "Cafeteria" religion seems to be the way of many intelligent people (I like the baby analogy, btw). And I do it just like anyone else, though it's to the point that I can't call myself any one religion/philosophy because the selection of philosophies is so sporadic, and because I can't help but see the overlap in many of them so it makes it pointless to say "I'm this" when it could equally mean "I'm something else" depending on how you interpret teachings.
Like you say, Fair enough. However, there is nothing like chanting with a hundred people. 😄
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Leon continuing to argue against evidence while supplying none of his own.To argue the man Jesus did not exist or there is doubt He did exist is just plain denying historical fact.
you sound like god. "all those who deny my undeniable existance are ignorant. to doubt my existance is to sin against me" blah blah.
if you havent read my replies its your problem not mine. i gave evidence for the things i was supporting.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasWhat other eye witnesses are there besides the writers of the bible that Jesus was divine though.
Leon continuing to argue against evidence while supplying none of his own.To argue the man Jesus did not exist or there is doubt He did exist is just plain denying historical fact.
Originally posted by Bardock42I meant outside the Bible. The point being that no eye witnesses attesting to His divinity outside the Bible does not mean that they didn't exist in the same way that He is not necessarily divine because no eyewitnesses outside the Bible said otherwise. The premise is errant.
Pilate? Herod? The Jews demanding his crucifixion?Also, that's a really stupid thing to ask.
Originally posted by Nellinator
I meant outside the Bible. The point being that no eye witnesses attesting to His divinity outside the Bible does not mean that they didn't exist in the same way that He is not necessarily divine because no eyewitnesses outside the Bible said otherwise. The premise is errant.
That does not mean that it did not happen!jm 🙂