The genealogy only disproves the claim that Matthew and Luke contradict. And your contention fins has nothing to do with it.
Jesus may not be PHYSICALLY descended from the bloodline of Joseph - because He was born through HOLY SPIRIT - but He was still the fulfillment of God's PROMISE to be the Son of God which will come from the descendants of David.
Again, not literally by BLOOD... but by God's PROMISE.
The genealogy only disproves the claim that Matthew and Luke contradict. And your contention fins has nothing to do with itit has everything to do with it, Joseph and Jesus didnt genealogically share the same bloodline, meaning the fullfilment has great flaws in it. Biggest flaw it aint correct, so the so called self proclaimed son of god was not a true genealogically descendant of David
The issue here is whether Matthew and Luke contradict each other or not regarding the FATHER/s of JOSEPH as raised by mr.smiley.
Now, your contention of saying that Jesus do not share from the bloodline of David, then that is totally a different topic. Whatever, fins, I respect your notions.
Now, for mr.smiley: Did Matthew and Luke still contradict regarding the parents of Joseph?
Originally posted by Jedi_KnightAlly
I personally think jesus will be descended from joseph.... because i have huge problems understandin or believing a virgin birth....
when it comes to the virgin birth,that also echoes stories that predate the christian era.
Pythagoras was said to be the son of apollo and a mortal woman called
parthenis,whose name derives from the word parthenos,meaning virgin.
In other traditions other sons of god are born to virgins.
asia minor,the mother of attis is the virgin cybele.
In syria,adonis' virgin mother is called myrrh.
In alexandria,aion is born to the virgin kore.
In greece,dionysus is born to the virgin semele who is impregnated by one of zeus' lightning bolts
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luke continues the genealogy past David all the way back through the Patriarchs to Adam and eventually God himself.Both gospels go through all this to make clear that joseph isn't the father at all,but god is.
Jesus' mather mary is a virgin and God is the father directly,not the 77 men that luke gives us a list of.
mattehew tells us:
It is by the Holy Spirit that she has concived this child.All this has happend in order to fulfill what the Lord declared through the prophet "the virgin will concive and bare a son".
Re: Sacrifice of Jesus
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Was that really so bad? I would sacrifice myself too for all the people in the world if I would be alive after three days. I mean, yeah it was painful and he died, but still...
I don't think it was the death and the pain that was so bad, it was being forsaken by God his father. When Jesus cried out " My God why have you forsaken me" , God has literally turned his face away from Jesus because at that moment Jesus became the sins of the world and the Bible says that God turns his face away from sin and that nothing sinful can stand and survive in the face of God. I think this was the worst part of all.