Yoda Versus Darth Maul And Vader!!

Started by birthoftheforce5 pages

Thats not true yoda fights in a way that outclasses and tires his opponent like hell but never aims to kill quick. He would tke longer than need onone and might run out by he second oponent. Maul is also underestimated and if he had survived would have been close to dooku(he was able to easily defeat qui gonn). Vader is also underestimated as people just think of the vader in the original trilogy and get put off. What i think of Vader once he is put into his suit is that he gains a lot more strength. He gains a lot more strength in the force and he becomes way more disciplined in lightsaber combat and more precise. The only skill of his that i think got worse was his speed. The fact that he was the chosen one also shows that Lucas wanted people to know he was extremely strong (as the chosen one in any film is usually one of the strongest such as neo in matrix)

Originally posted by birthoftheforce
Thats not true yoda fights in a way that outclasses and tires his opponent like hell but never aims to kill quick.

If he has to he will kill people quick. Watch ROTS again...


He would tke longer than need onone and might run out by he second oponent.

He does quite "extreme" acts of force use during the duel with Sidious at the end of ROTS and never is close to "run out of force powers" so most likely we will never see that happen.


Maul is also underestimated and if he had survived would have been close to dooku(he was able to easily defeat qui gonn).

Maul was stupid enough to get killed by Padawan Obi-Wan.
Dooku was able to throw Jedi Master Obi-Wan around like a puppet, he was able to use force lightning and he pretty much could "toy" with people (Anakin, Obi-Wan). The only people that would have been able to take Dooku would be Yoda, Mace and maybe Sidious. And Maul was FAR inferior to Sidious. Think about it and then come back to tell me again that Maul is close to Dooku.


Vader is also underestimated as people just think of the vader in the original trilogy and get put off. What i think of Vader once he is put into his suit is that he gains a lot more strength. He gains a lot more strength in the force and he becomes way more disciplined in lightsaber combat and more precise. The only skill of his that i think got worse was his speed. The fact that he was the chosen one also shows that Lucas wanted people to know he was extremely strong (as the chosen one in any film is usually one of the strongest such as neo in matrix)

And this is just a big pile of BS.

a)
Lucas himself clearly said that Anakin lost 60 % of his force potential when Obi-Wan cut his legs and arm of on Mustafar - how would he become stronger with the force than he was in ROTS ? Evidence states that he is weaker - 80 % (again comment from Lucas) of Sidious and Yoda would outclass Sidious pretty much in a "fair" fight.

b)
He had already an mechanical arm in ROTS - how would he become stronger only because having another mechanical arm ?

c)
More precise in combat ? Maybe...

d)
"Chosen one" theory has nothing to do with this since Vader in suit is not longer Anakin and pre suit Vader wasn't able to kill Obi-Wan who would lose to Yoda every day...

So? Does Yoda win?

Originally posted by overlord
So? Does Yoda win?

Yap. He does...

yes, yoda wins.

Damn.. I wish the Maul fans were more persistent....

Why? Yoda is so much better then those two...

firstly nai, yoda has one duel in ROTS with a lightsaber opponent and there is no evidense there to show that he kills people quick. Droids sure but force potentials are a different ball game. And he does do impressive things but achieves nothing just like against tyranus. He does too little in the time that he has and we have never seen him in a long duel so we dont actually know but he pretty much uses the force in everything he does (think about how many force guided jumps he does in a minute) so i think in a long duel like this he wuld lose lots of energy. Maul was extremely unlucky with obi won and that was one mistake he made and now everyone thinks hes crap and that obi won was better than him.

And this is just a big pile of BS.

a)
Lucas himself clearly said that Anakin lost 60 % of his force potential when Obi-Wan cut his legs and arm of on Mustafar - how would he become stronger with the force than he was in ROTS ? Evidence states that he is weaker - 80 % (again comment from Lucas) of Sidious and Yoda would outclass Sidious pretty much in a "fair" fight.

b)
He had already an mechanical arm in ROTS - how would he become stronger only because having another mechanical arm ?

c)
More precise in combat ? Maybe...

d)
"Chosen one" theory has nothing to do with this since Vader in suit is not longer Anakin and pre suit Vader wasn't able to kill Obi-Wan who would lose to Yoda every day...

and this is what u said.

a) i have acually heard lucas say that vader becomes more powerful than yoda. You probably heard that on some site like supershadow.

b) Full battle suit vader is widely known for being powerfull. It wasn't just a mechanical arm that was added to him. There was thick powerful metal plating added plus a ton of other things. Face it, vader become like 10 times more stronger than even windu with his suit.

d) Are you high or something. When jedi anakin becomes darth vader he is still the chosen one and the prophecy does refer to him. And you have to stop thinking that someone is better than someone else just because they defeat them once because padawan obi was not stronger than maul and rots obi was not stronger than rots vader

Originally posted by birthoftheforce
a) i have acually heard lucas say that vader becomes more powerful than yoda. You probably heard that on some site like supershadow.

b) Full battle suit vader is widely known for being powerfull. It wasn't just a mechanical arm that was added to him. There was thick powerful metal plating added plus a ton of other things. Face it, vader become like 10 times more stronger than even windu with his suit.

d) Are you high or something. When jedi anakin becomes darth vader he is still the chosen one and the prophecy does refer to him. And you have to stop thinking that someone is better than someone else just because they defeat them once because padawan obi was not stronger than maul and rots obi was not stronger than rots vader

LOL I actually think you have been the one to visit the supershadow site. Lucas have never said that Vader was stronger than Yoda. The thing about Vader having -80% force potential as Nai said is true. Vader was no warrior anymore, he could hardly win a battle. He was killed by ROTJ Luke and he couldent move fast enough to be a good lightsaber user. His force powers was kinda impressive but nothing to the likes of Yoda. If you watch ROTS Yoda and Sidious is almost equal in power and Lucas has stated that Vader is 80% force powers. And yes he is still the chosen one in the suit but that doesent mean a shit here.

Everything you just wrote is a pile of horseshit.
Thats all your bias views, and idiocity. Mace windu would school Vader, based of FACTS! Vader does not become more powerful than yoda, jesus thats ridiculous. The prophecy is a lame installment into the star wars world. And all you ever type is IF this Then that. No its not always like that. Padawan Obi was kicking ass Maul just force pushed him into a hole. Watch TPM again. And ROTS obi might not have been stronger, but ANH obi wan was untouchable. He completly mastered Soresu. Why did he die? Well you should already know that. But just because vader beat him does not make Vader this insane sith.

not you kamikz

Yoda wastes them. . .

A small green figure robed in brown entered the meditation chamber of arth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith. As the pod opened, a dark helmet lowered from the chambers top, grasped in a vice of durasteel. A figure clad in armor black as the void of space emerged.

"My? Grown, you have, young Skywalker, mmm?"

A deep, rumbling laugh poured from the vocabulators in Vader's mouthpiece.

"I have become more powerful than any Jedi. Even you."

And with that, a blade of crimson light fired from the black hilt clutched in Vader's right hand. Yoda heard another saber ignite as a horned and tattooed figure fell from the ceiling, snarling.

"My apprentice. Lord Maul, rebirthed. Now, old fool, prepare to die."

As the two Sith charged towards him, Yoda muttered a last phrase.

"Much to learn, you still have."

And with that, he spun clockwise, evading both plasma beams with a single, deft movement. Yet he hadn't even shifted his position. Throwing his left hand out, he ejected a blast of invisible energy right into Darth Maul's devilish face, hurling the apprentice Sith headlong into the steel wall. As Vader's second swing approached, Yoda leapt up, soaring over it, and landed with the poise and grace of a Nexu. Gone was the aged form of Yoda, and in its place was the paragon of light, the ultimate Jedi Master. Igniting his lightsaber, he twitched his wrist, slicing through the mechanical nerve servos in Vader's neck. The Dark Lord, deprived of his electronic assistance and stimulation, fell to the ground in a pre-death spasm.

Sighing, Yoda walked out of the room.

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Faunus your like so wrong, cause anakin is like the chosen one and he is kinda like Darth Vader, which is kinda cool cause he's like the ultimate bad guy ever in a movies. Except for maybe Shredder from Teenage mutant Ninja turtles cause he's like so cool too... So you see Vader wins acuse he's just cool.. But not as cool as shredder..

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Originally posted by birthoftheforce
a) i have acually heard lucas say that vader becomes more powerful than yoda. You probably heard that on some site like supershadow.

Beeeeep - wrong.
Anakin once had the potential to become more powerful than Yoda and Sidious (that's what Sidious said before starting to fight Yoda in ROTS) but Lucas said that he lost a great part of that potential when getting his arm and legs cut off by Obi-Wan and after this he has only 80 % of Sidious power. Just to prove that this is the case:

1)
He's planning to kill Sidious in ROTS (that's what he tells Padme) and in fact he didn't do that after ROTS simply because of the fact he is weaker than Sidious (and thereby weaker than Yoda)

2)
He is telling Luke that they could kill the Emperor together in ESB so he needs his son to do that.


b) Full battle suit vader is widely known for being powerfull. It wasn't just a mechanical arm that was added to him. There was thick powerful metal plating added plus a ton of other things. Face it, vader become like 10 times more stronger than even windu with his suit.

That is complete nonsens. He has one mechanical arm (left side), two mechanical legs and that breathing system added - nothing more. Parts of his suit might be able to withstand a lightsaber hit (the helmet and the breastplate) but Yoda would cut him down in no time, so would Mace. In suit Vader is less powerful than ROTS Anakin.


d) Are you high or something. When jedi anakin becomes darth vader he is still the chosen one and the prophecy does refer to him. And you have to stop thinking that someone is better than someone else just because they defeat them once because padawan obi was not stronger than maul and rots obi was not stronger than rots vader

LOL.

1)
Yes. Anakin is still the chosen one but he's doesn't have his full potential anymore which would have made him the greatest force user ever. Got it now ?

2)
ROTS Obi-Wan did beat ROTS Anakin. Past ROTS Vader is weaker than ROTS Anakin. So Obi-Wan would defeat him again and Yoda would own him silly.

3)
Maul would also get owned silly by Yoda. He got killed by a Padawan. You can argue that point like you want. Obi-Wan destroyed Maul's lightsaber, kicked him to the floor and at the end killed him. And sorry...somebody that let himself getting owned by a Padawan will be obliterated by Yoda.

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