Originally posted by Deano
i find it hard to answer your question. what do you think of society and life in general
I see society thriving and despite all the controversy, moving in directions that will spur more positive change.
I believe EVERYONE has an agenda when they are in politics. Wether its gore, bush, rense, riley all of them and thats ok. No matter who's in power they will dictate the information we recieve and that in turn allows them to stay in control. Realizing this I am not a blind dolt to the media and I interpret accordingly with the thought "whats this person's agenda?" If I can live with ok if not I call it out or do my thing.
I believe most people are good they just need to be monitored. Rense has some interesting theory's. None that I buy into all together just like I don't with any person's.
So I think our society is growing changing and because of that we are all playing catch up and making mistakes because change almost demands mistakes be made however I feel that as a whole we are working to rectify most of them.
Originally posted by soleran30
I see society thriving and despite all the controversy, moving in directions that will spur more positive change.I believe EVERYONE has an agenda when they are in politics. Wether its gore, bush, rense, riley all of them and thats ok. No matter who's in power they will dictate the information we recieve and that in turn allows them to stay in control. Realizing this I am not a blind dolt to the media and I interpret accordingly with the thought "whats this person's agenda?" If I can live with ok if not I call it out or do my thing.
I believe most people are good they just need to be monitored. Rense has some interesting theory's. None that I buy into all together just like I don't with any person's.
So I think our society is growing changing and because of that we are all playing catch up and making mistakes because change almost demands mistakes be made however I feel that as a whole we are working to rectify most of them.
i hold hope for humanity, but people have to pull together and start making some drastic changes. things are not good at the moment imo
Originally posted by Deano
no...because that question is almost impossible to answer😐
Originally posted by soleran30
I see society thriving and despite all the controversy, moving in directions that will spur more positive change.I believe EVERYONE has an agenda when they are in politics. Wether its gore, bush, rense, riley all of them and thats ok. No matter who's in power they will dictate the information we recieve and that in turn allows them to stay in control. Realizing this I am not a blind dolt to the media and I interpret accordingly with the thought "whats this person's agenda?" If I can live with ok if not I call it out or do my thing.
I believe most people are good they just need to be monitored. Rense has some interesting theory's. None that I buy into all together just like I don't with any person's.
So I think our society is growing changing and because of that we are all playing catch up and making mistakes because change almost demands mistakes be made however I feel that as a whole we are working to rectify most of them.
Hmmmmmmmmm........Is that an answer?
Originally posted by soleran30
I see society thriving and despite all the controversy, moving in directions that will spur more positive change.
War in Afghanistan, war in Iraq, Iran's nuclear enrichment program, China's anti-succession law, wire-tapping of home-country nationals, Guantanomo Bay, international terrorism, torturing POWs, over dependence on non-renewable resources, Islamic furore regarding depictions of Muhammed in western newspapers, disregard for international laws, Bird Flu out-breaks in Europe, etc, etc...
It's not good to be a 'blind dolt to the media', but being a donkey with blinkers on is no good either. I'm an optimist, and I believe in people's ability to inact social change, but we're in a trough right now.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
War in Afghanistan, war in Iraq, Iran's nuclear enrichment program, China's anti-succession law, wire-tapping of home-country nationals, Guantanomo Bay, international terrorism, torturing POWs, over dependence on non-renewable resources, Islamic furore regarding depictions of Muhammed in western newspapers, disregard for international laws, Bird Flu out-breaks in Europe, etc, etc...It's not good to be a 'blind dolt to the media', but being a donkey with blinkers on is no good either. I'm an optimist, and I believe in people's ability to inact social change, but we're in a trough right now.
correct indeed. war in iran is next. and like the others it is co-ordinated, and if people wanna think that is all happening by accident, go ahead, thats your choice
whats frustrating is seeing orwells 1984 unfold infront our eyes by the day and people dont give a damn
as long as people take everything at face value, without question, and they don't survey the world with open eyes and an open mind, we will go on being a bewildered herd, blindly following the sheep at the front. If we stop being human blotting paper, soaking up this tidal wave of biased information, and begin united fronts to filter what we are told, we become so much more difficult to mislead. These terrible events which have plagued the world in this century can only happen if we see life in terms of the leaders and the led. If we do that, a tiny few can control the world ,and they have
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
War in Afghanistan, war in Iraq, Iran's nuclear enrichment program, China's anti-succession law, wire-tapping of home-country nationals, Guantanomo Bay, international terrorism, torturing POWs, over dependence on non-renewable resources, Islamic furore regarding depictions of Muhammed in western newspapers, disregard for international laws, Bird Flu out-breaks in Europe, etc, etc...It's not good to be a 'blind dolt to the media', but being a donkey with blinkers on is no good either. I'm an optimist, and I believe in people's ability to inact social change, but we're in a trough right now.
LOL yeah ok tell me a time of absolute utopia. Matter of fact can you give me a stretch of 10 years in the last 100 there has been no conflict or war or famine or suffering in the last 100 years? Please Krunk I would love to hear it.
Yeah so when you do that extensive search (yeah right) I think you'll find its common. Now can you tell me all the good things that have come in the last 100 years? Cuz due to progress the list is much larger but problems will be around as long as there is change and it happens as quickly as it does today.
You're a strange fish. One minute you're saying the world is all peaches and cream, then you change tact and start saying "oh, there's always been trouble and strife". A bit of consistency wouldn't be remiss.
I don't think I have ever insinuated that we have ever reached Nirvana, but by comparison - notice the bold type - the Clinton administration was in office during a time of relative - there it is again - peace, and unparalleled economic well being.
I have never said peaches and cream nor do I think the world is without problems................................if you really think Clinton was all that please please tell me how so. Do you think an economy such as the US has meaningful and significant LT impacts in 4 to 8 years? Pretty much every president the first 4 years is living off the economic "landslide" of the previous.
Yeah cuz with Clinton its not like we were in Africa or anything. Your saving grace is your "relative" statement. I mean help me here Krunk.............
Originally posted by Deano
correct indeed. war in iran is next. and like the others it is co-ordinated, and if people wanna think that is all happening by accident, go ahead, thats your choice
You seem to think that you have a unique and special view what's happening.
People have believed that iran is next for a while.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=322977&highlight=Pack+up+the+truck
And people are aware that gov'ts distort situations and lie to go to war. People also know that gov'ts often act in the most questionable of manners. You seem to believe that if people don't proscribe to the ridiculous theories that put forth then they have their heads up their own asses. The truth is that the majority of people see what is going on, and unfortunately you see what is going on, and then extrapolate extravagant and unnecessary scenarios which no sane person would believe.
You also try to challenge peoples beliefs without making the least effort to actually research your own. When challenged you become flippant, defensive or soft worded. Other than by a small minority your theories are ignored. In fact, your senseless and illogical rambling have chased away many of the more enlightened members of KMC.
Believe what you want, but don't spread misinformation as though it's gospel, and don't accuse or challenge opinions if you are incapable of facing such challenges yourself. Because you fail to respond intelligently or in earnest to the points of others, your arguments are hollow and laughable.
Originally posted by soleran30
I see society thriving.
...Seems like peaches and cream to me.
Originally posted by soleran30
if you really think Clinton was all that please please tell me how so.
For someone who proclaims he's not a 'blind dolt to the media', you sure seem to want me to spoon feed you! Do your own research. I'm not here to copy and paste facts for you. However, I'm a nice guy, so I'll give you a little push in your search:
LOL yeah here is the thing Krunk I don't need to look it up you want me to believe you which I don't unless you show me. I already have my views opinions on Clinton.
What do you see society doing at the moment Krunk. Its easy to point out another persons words but I don't see you putting your own to any use.
here let me do some footwork for you so I can share with you what I know.
Thrive.................http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thrive
1. To prosper by industry, economy, and good management of property; to increase in goods and estate; as, a farmer thrives by good husbandry.
2. To prosper in any business; to have increase or success.
3. To increase in bulk or stature; to grow vigorously or luxuriantly, as a plant; to flourish; as, young cattle thrive in rich pastures; trees thrive in a good soil.
Seems to be that way at least in the USA.
Originally posted by soleran30
LOL yeah here is the thing Krunk I don't need to look it up you want me to believe you which I don't unless you show me. I already have my views opinions on Clinton.
I'd love to reply to this, but it doesn't make any sense, so I can't.
Originally posted by soleran30
What do you see society doing at the moment Krunk. Its easy to point out another persons words but I don't see you putting your own to any use.
Another strange one! Look back, ooooo, maybe 9 posts and you'll see my opinion. Damn it! I said I wasn't going to spoon feed you! Oh, well...
Originally posted by soleran30
Thrive.................http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thrive1. To prosper by industry, economy, and good management of property; to increase in goods and estate; as, a farmer thrives by good husbandry.
2. To prosper in any business; to have increase or success.
3. To increase in bulk or stature; to grow vigorously or luxuriantly, as a plant; to flourish; as, young cattle thrive in rich pastures; trees thrive in a good soil.Seems to be that way at least in the USA.
Indeed, 'insularity' is the hall-mark of your great nation.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
You seem to think that you have a unique and special view what's happening.People have believed that iran is next for a while.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=322977&highlight=Pack+up+the+truckAnd people are aware that gov'ts distort situations and lie to go to war. People also know that gov'ts often act in the most questionable of manners. You seem to believe that if people don't proscribe to the ridiculous theories that put forth then they have their heads up their own asses. The truth is that the majority of people see what is going on, and unfortunately you see what is going on, and then extrapolate extravagant and unnecessary scenarios which no sane person would believe.
You also try to challenge peoples beliefs without making the least effort to actually research your own. When challenged you become flippant, defensive or soft worded. Other than by a small minority your theories are ignored. In fact, your senseless and illogical rambling have chased away many of the more enlightened members of KMC.
Believe what you want, but don't spread misinformation as though it's gospel, and don't accuse or challenge opinions if you are incapable of facing such challenges yourself. Because you fail to respond intelligently or in earnest to the points of others, your arguments are hollow and laughable.
i also posted the iran war thread way before that one you posted.
you can also believe what you want, if it makes you sleep better at night. i sometime think you want wars and sufferring. you cannot eva see the point that i and others are making. you have to realise that human nature is not evil. It has a natural desire for love, not hate, and for harmony, not conflict. Those wars and the wars that will follow were not the result of human nature being evil. They were the result of humanity giving away to someone else its right to think and act. these are lessons which are still to be learned and until they are, we will continue to be denied our true potential. but we can make that switch in an instant, if we so choose. after all this time you cant see the truth for what it is, you must think i post this to annoy you and others, i have no personal problem with you, other than your complete denial in world events .We are having a version of events projected at us through the schools, universities, and the media, all the time. that version of events has almost nothing to do with truth., but has been created to mislead us and to persuade us to think and act in a particular way, which suits the aims of the human manipulators and their controllers, and when you and others realise that it doesnt have to be like this, then we can all pull together to make things better for this planet.
No your right after I wrote my post I clicked your link🙂 Oh well.........however after reading the Clinton documentary it was ridiculous but thats neither here nor there.
If you think I am gonna hunt for your words guess what your wrong. You came and interjected on my comments so that doesn't mean I am going to backtrack 26 pages to see how you feel or think.
What country are you from because I am not talking to you on a pedistial however you certainly seem to be on one.