Originally posted by Deano
this video is different.ask a fellow kmc'er who also has been on your side in the past when it comes to conspiracys.[QUOTE=5960380]Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
That documentary is actually pretty damn fascinating.
The amount of supporting data - and even video evidence - was very impressive. The frame-by-frame shots of the towers being blown floor by floor was astonishing, plus the footage of the explosion from the gas station by the Pentagon was incredible - where was the plane? The only thing that let it down was that the narrator sounded about 16 years old...
I have seen video of the floor by floor "explosions of the towers". They are not detonations, but what happens when a tall structure is compromised and begins to collapse upon itself if designed properly. You would know this if you talked to an architect. Why will you not do that? Are you afraid that a little knowledge might shatter your world?
As for the plane missing at the pentigon:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
Originally posted by Deano
brainwashed architects say that. not eveyr arhitect has said that...you do know this?
As do successfull well educated architects who have worked for years. Whey won't you go talk to them? Are you saying conspiracey theorists know more about architecture than architects? You're on fire today.
Originally posted by Deano
please watch the video. thats all i ask. its very detailed.
I will not watch the video, you will not seek actual knowledge. I will be able to go on with life as normal, you shall remain uneducated. That is your choice and that is fine. But do not pressure people to watch a silly video about what you consider facts when you are unwilling to investigate REAL concrete facts from people who are best informed regarding their profession.
Generally, I'm skeptical of conspiracy theories because I always wonder why no-one really credible comes out in support of them. Also, most of the people who purport these 'open your eyes, the world is run by mice' statements are a little loco; they are happy to say the general public is deluded at the same time as saying that the plot to attack the WTCs was hidden in a Word font that no-one has ever used.
However, that 9/11 video is actually pretty well supported. It has credible opinions from experts, eyewitness accounts from members of the public and firemen, and corroborating facts. It certainly makes you think about the whole situation. Suck it up, KharmaDog...Have a look, and if you don't like what you see, just tell us that you didn't watch it anyway. It's only an hour long.
I hate conspiracies , they are usually meaningless claptrap written by people who have little else to do in their lives but find imaginary 'problems' within the given facts. The only conspiracy that i find possibly credible is the Jfk 2nd shooter theory .
Other then that i find them a load of horseshit , abducted by aliens , BAH , ghost's demons witches , pfffft . Pure nonsense .
Originally posted by Deano
you are running away from the video.
NO I am not, you are hiding from the truth, you have yet to addres my request that you talk to actual architects yet persist to push your video. You are a joke.
Originally posted by Deano
and you are not educated at all lol. you are programmed to a very serious and disturbing level. which is frustrating.
You are a fool. I hold more than one university degree and have also recieved education in non formal means while studying native american culture and history (from the source) while going across canada.
A well educated person is taught to think for thenselves, not parrot what they read or hear, that would be someone who is brainwashed, someone like you.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Generally, I'm skeptical of conspiracy theories because I always wonder why no-one really credible comes out in support of them. Also, most of the people who purport these 'open your eyes, the world is run by mice' statements are a little loco; they are happy to say the general public is deluded at the same time as saying that the plot to attack the WTCs was hidden in a Word font that no-one has ever used.However, that 9/11 video is actually pretty well supported. It has credible opinions from experts, eyewitness accounts from members of the public and firemen, and corroborating facts. It certainly makes you think about the whole situation. Suck it up, KharmaDog...Have a look, and if you don't like what you see, just tell us that you didn't watch it anyway. It's only an hour long.
Right now I am busy, but because I respect your opinion, I'll try to watch it on monday.
my god you pick apart deano's post like you have some sort of sick vendetta towards him. Watch the movie. You say all of his words are pointless and irrelavent but i saw to you this. Until you watch the movie all of your bullshit nonsense means NOTHING. Its about the video so if you havent watched you can say nothing. Review the evidence and get your shit straight. people like you piss me off. Why dont you do your part in challanging deano to find the truth why dont you open up a little bit and stop being such a hardheaded jackass to him.
Oh and just adding. You said shit about Bud. Watch the movie u ass clown you will see that people with professions and lives that say their real names get destroyed by the government. THATS COMMON SENSE. You talk shit about the government and support a conspiracy that has some value the government will ruin you. Just for saying something like what you did makes you look like an idiot.
Originally posted by TheOne101
my god you pick apart deano's post like you have some sort of sick vendetta towards him. Watch the movie. You say all of his words are pointless and irrelavent but i saw to you this. Until you watch the movie all of your bullshit nonsense means NOTHING. Its about the video so if you havent watched you can say nothing. Review the evidence and get your shit straight. people like you piss me off. Why dont you do your part in challanging deano to find the truth why dont you open up a little bit and stop being such a hardheaded jackass to him.
I pick Deano's arguments apart because it is so very easy to do. He infact should not take it personally because they are not his arguments, but those of others that he usually copies and pastes or provides links to. I have investigated many of deano's posts and links and responded to most. Interesting that you take exception to the fact that I don't check out this video in particular, but see no problem with him actually investigating the issue himself by asking an archetect to explain structural design and failsafes to him.
Originally posted by TheOne101
Oh and just adding. You said shit about Bud. Watch the movie u ass clown you will see that people with professions and lives that say their real names get destroyed by the government. THATS COMMON SENSE. You talk shit about the government and support a conspiracy that has some value the government will ruin you. Just for saying something like what you did makes you look like an idiot.
Don't talk to me about comon sense. you have yet to post anything which resembles common sense. Keep getting hostile, and your ass will get booted out of this forum.
Originally posted by TheOne101
Also just letting anyone who was interested in the video that there is a part 2 to it. Just go to google, type in loose change 911 and you will see the second link is to part 2. ITs also an hour but has some new info.
I have a question. Has anyone who has watched either video, taken it upon themselves to research the information in the video, or are you watching it, thinking about it, then moving on? If you have researched it, I would love to hear more about that than the 'facts' (and I use that term loosely) in the video.
I keep hearing about who is brainwashed or programmed, yet it's the followers of conspiracey theories who don't question their sources, just those that their sources implicate.
Originally posted by soleran30
I just want to hear the plan of "reconstruction" that these people who know the "truth" wish us to proceed with since the entire WORLD is against the layman here.Who did they want to lead us to enlightenment and show us the proper path filled with "truth."
Deano if you have a moment I would like your htoughts on this..........
O.K., I am off to a trade show, so I have only been able to watch the first couple of minutes of the documentary. Needless to say, I am totally underwhelmed.
The first think I read is a quote from Mark Burnback,"It definitely didn't look like a commercial plane. I didn't see any windows on the side. Again, it was not a normal flight that I've ever seen at an airport. It had a blue logo on the front, and it did not look like it belonged in the area." .
First off using any fox news source is sceptical at best. Using the quote of a reporter who has just witnessed a tragedy of this scale, with no idea what actually happened, who is now totally speculating is just irresponsible and stupid. The argument that they were not regular flights has been disproved a number of times.
The next thing we see is INCREDIBLY grainy video that asks us to believe that a bomb was detonated exactly in front of where the first plane struck. Do I need to elaborate on the mathematical possibilities and unbelievable skill and luck that would be needed to coordinate these two events? Ridiculous.
Finally we hear the documenter explain that the second plane fired a missile into the building a nanosecond before impact. Missiles are not ejected out of planes, they are released, then the missile move upon it's own propulsion, there is no time at all for a pilot (or co-pilot) to engage a missile a nano-second before impact with an object that is taking all your concentration to maneuver the plane to collide with.
The "bomb apparatus" on the second plane is a reflection. If you witness other angles, you see that there actually is no such apparatus. Only when viewed at the angle where the reflection is present is anything seen.
I have only witnessed a few minutes of this video, and it is completely ridiculous. I will watch more next week so I can study it and tear apart this shoddy psuedo journalism.
Now Deano, I look forward to hearing from you what you have learned after talking to a few Actual Architects. I'd love their names too so I can actually confirm that you went there.
Originally posted by soleran30
Deano if you have a moment I would like your htoughts on this..........
why shud u ask that?
http://rense.com/general46/whatdo.html
personally i think to be free we shud stop living a lie.
''Think about the consequences for your life and the planet that result from this fear of being you. If we give our minds away to others and allow them to tell us what to think and do, and if we concede our uniqueness to the fear of being different, we give control of this world to a tiny Elite who use their power and manipulation for there own sick and personal gain. all we gotta do is stand up and speak.''
Until we respect our own, and everyone’s, right to be different, to make our own choices, and create our own conscious realities free from imposition and pressure to conform, we will remain in a prison of our own making. We will continue to be both the policeman and the prisoner. And a handful of people with a deeply unpleasant agenda will continue to run the world. The choice, as always, is ours. We can accept the prison or we can walk out to freedom. And freedom is but a thought away.
In the light of this, the means of escape from the global Alcatraz is breathtakingly obvious:
A We think for ourselves and refuse to allow others to tell us what to do, be and say.
B We let go of fear because fear is our creation. We don’t have to fear, we choose to. We don’t have to hide our uniqueness, we choose to. We can make another choice just as easily.
C We respect our own right to believe what we choose and, crucially, we respect everyone’s right to do the same, free from pressure, ridicule, condemnation and imposition of any kind.
In those few short sentences you have the means to transform this world from a prison to a paradise. Not one gun needs to be fired, not one trench needs to be dug, nor one new political “ism” created. All it takes is for you to respect your right to be different and to respect everyone’s right to that same freedom.
Yes. It really is that simple.
i dont understand why people cannot grasp the message, on what david icke and many others have to say, we have to do to make this planet a better place. and sadly i think no one seems to care. if we continue on this path then we are doomed, simple as.
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Originally posted by KharmaDog
O.K., I am off to a trade show, so I have only been able to watch the first couple of minutes of the documentary. Needless to say, I am totally underwhelmed.
why doesnt that surprise me
The first think I read is a quote from Mark Burnback,"It definitely didn't look like a commercial plane. I didn't see any windows on the side. Again, it was not a normal flight that I've ever seen at an airport. It had a blue logo on the front, and it did not look like it belonged in the area." .First off using any fox news source is sceptical at best. Using the quote of a reporter who has just witnessed a tragedy of this scale, with no idea what actually happened, who is now totally speculating is just irresponsible and stupid. The argument that they were not regular flights has been disproved a number of times.
he was there ..u wasnt
The next thing we see is INCREDIBLY grainy video that asks us to believe that a bomb was detonated exactly in front of where the first plane struck. Do I need to elaborate on the mathematical possibilities and unbelievable skill and luck that would be needed to coordinate these two events? Ridiculous.[b]
if the elite can brainwash billions of people, and get them to vote for people like bush, im sure they can co-ordinate anything🙂
[b]Finally we hear the documenter explain that the second plane fired a missile into the building a nanosecond before impact. Missiles are not ejected out of planes, they are released, then the missile move upon it's own propulsion, there is no time at all for a pilot (or co-pilot) to engage a missile a nano-second before impact with an object that is taking all your concentration to maneuver the plane to collide with.The "bomb apparatus" on the second plane is a reflection. If you witness other angles, you see that there actually is no such apparatus. Only when viewed at the angle where the reflection is present is anything seen.
I have only witnessed a few minutes of this video, and it is completely ridiculous. I will watch more next week so I can study it and tear apart this shoddy psuedo journalism.
Now Deano, I look forward to hearing from you what you have learned after talking to a few Actual Architects. I'd love their names too so I can actually confirm that you went there.
the video is an hour long, not 2 minutes. i find it unbelievable that you are ranting already.
like i said..many architects have come out with many different views, many brainwashed cowards would never dream of the idea of the government planning this attack, so they hardly eva question the offical version..they try to support it. many architects have come forward and questioned the official story. fair play to them
you are living in a dream world kharma. you constantly run away from the truth that is splattering you right between the eyes. shame
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Hey-ho, I'm not saying its all Mark, Luke and John, but it definitely made me think about the situation a little...
at least you admit it.kharma would never admit it ever, even if he knew in his own mind. he is truely gone. he watches 2 minutes of video and already he starts to write crap