The Official KMC "Conspiracy" Thread

Started by Deano115 pages

PAID TO POISON ...

... DOCTORS ON THE TAKE ...

Hello all,
I have been highlighting for 20 years how the medical establishment in Britain, America and around the world is just an arm of government and the pharmaceutical cartel, or 'Big Pharma'. The last thing it represents is human health.
This week came the latest grotesque example with the case of Dr. Andrew Wakefield, the man who first suggested a link between the combined measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, or 'MMR', and both autism and bowel problems. He caused an international medical storm in 1998 when and he and eleven other doctors produced a research study which reported bowel symptoms in 12 autistic children and claimed a possible link with MMR.

Dr. Andrew Wakefield

What followed was a tidal wave of condemnation to discredit his claims by discrediting him - the age-old method used by the establishment against information it wants to suppress. It has been used on me many times. Wakefield had been hired by lawyers to investigate the link with autism with a view to parents suing the drug companies involved and he did not mention this in the published paper. This was jumped upon to discredit the research and ten of the other 11 authors of the report withdrew their support.
But the question remained and remains: are the findings true? This is of little importance to the establishment who behave like a hanging posse or inquisition when anyone challenges its dogma and those who fund its gravy train - the drug companies.

GlaxoSmithKline, one of the companies involved with MMR, along with others like Aventis Pasteur and Merck.

Wakefield, a Canadian trained gastroenterologist, left the Royal Free Hospital in London 'by mutual consent' in the aftermath of his report and has since worked mostly in the United States, continuing his research at Thoughtful House, a centre for autistic children in Texas.
But the establishment is always motivated by revenge for those who dare to challenge its agenda. It may have to wait some time to strike, but it never forgives or forgets. So now the General Medical Council (GMC) in Britain is charging Dr. Wakefield with professional misconduct with a view to striking him off and destroying his medical career and livelihood. He is accused of 'inadequately founded research, failing to obtain ethical committee approval, obtaining funding "improperly" and subjecting children to 'unnecessary and invasive investigations'.
Given the extraordinary numbers of people killed or permanently damaged by doctors and drug company products every year, the charge of 'inadequately founded research' would be hilarious if it were not so serious for Dr. Wakefield and medical freedom. It is the same with 'unnecessary investigations', given the number of unnecessary drugs and 'tests' that doctors prescribe.

Autism in children ... Andrew Wakefield is trying to establish the cause ...

An editorial in Britain's Daily Mail newspaper, headed 'MMR and a doctor only doing his duty', encapsulated the real reason for the attempt to destroy Andrew Wakefield. It pointed out that no-one has complained to the General Medical Council about him and nor has anybody suggested that he said or wrote anything dishonest when he believed he had discovered a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. Why, it asked, was the GMC now throwing the book at him? The editorial went on:

'The case has the whiff about it of a medieval inquisition, called to defend the orthodoxy of the establishment against the heresy of an independent mind. Dr Wakefield's "crime" was to open an important debate that remains unresolved. Eight years on, he is by no means alone among doctors in believing that he may have been on to something. The trouble is we just don't know.
Even Tony Blair, though publicly committed to the triple vaccine, seems to have private doubts. What else would explain why he has refused to tell MPs if his son Leo has been given it? After all, he has never been above dragging his family into the spotlight, when it suits his political purposes ...
... Think what an uproar there would be today if it was discovered that Dr Wakefield had kept his suspicions to himself and a link had subsequently been proven. He had a duty to speak out - and now he is being made to suffer for it.
His treatment by the GMC is utterly unjust. If this preposterous body had existed 200 years ago, defending the prevailing wisdom against new ideas, doctors would still be treating illnesses by slitting their patients' veins.'

Galileo faces the inquisition for telling the truth in 1633 and the inquisition never ended - ask Andrew Wakefield

The primary motivation for targeting Wakefield is that his findings led to a significant fall in the number of parents allowing their children to have the combined MMR vaccine and undermined the confidence the public have in vaccinations in general.
The whole thing is about money and protecting the power of the drug cartel, the same reason why healing methods that do not involve the drug or the scalpel are ridiculed, condemned and marginalised by the medical establishment. The top ten drug companies make more in profits than the rest of the Fortune 500 combined

'Sell, sell, sell ...take, take, take ...'

The entire structure of global 'medicine' is a web of corruption, lies and deceit. What an irony that Wakefield has been accused of a conflict of interest over his research on behalf of families with autistic children when the bribery of doctors by drug companies is common practice. Doctors on the take is the norm, not the rarity.
And I mean bribe, like on a monumental scale. As this Internet article says:
'Big Pharma spends nearly $19 billion a year bribing and influencing physicians, by the way. That's billion with a "B." How much money is $19 billion? It's more money than NASA wastes smashing satellites into Mars and exploding space shuttles in Earth's upper atmosphere. It's more money than the entire junk food industry spends hypnotizing obese children into nagging their parents for another box of sugar-bomb breakfast cereal at the quickie mart. Heck, It's more money than the entire United States spends on genuine disease prevention and health education.'
(http://www.newstarget.com/019179.html)
And yet Dr. Wakefield is accused of a 'conflict of interest' for representing the families of autistic children while publishing research on the connection with MMR. The Journal of the American Medical Association has proposed changes to current practice that would:

Prohibit doctors from accepting free drug samples.

Exclude doctors who have financial ties to drug companies from serving on the hospital panels that determine which medicines should be on the preferred prescribing lists.

Prohibit drug companies from providing direct financing for educational programming.

Prohibit medical faculty from belonging to pharmaceutical companies' speakers' bureaus or publishing drug company articles as their own.

Require faculty members that receive financial support from pharmaceutical companies to post them on public Internet sites.

The suggestion is that the above practices should be stopped, which means, of course, they are all happening now as a matter of course. Take one of these examples alone - doctors on the payroll of drug companies deciding through the hospital panels which medicines go on the prescribing lists. Do you think they have their patients' well being on their minds when they do this or the companies who fund their big car, big house lifestyle?

Drugs: a game of mutual benefit ...

But the bribery and corruption of doctors and drug companies goes far deeper. Doctors are routinely offered top-of-the range, all-expenses-paid, trips to exotic locations by drug companies on the pretext of 'conferences'. The 'conference' takes a few hours a day, if indeed they bother turning up, and the rest of the time is a holiday on Big Pharma. Doctors are also funded by the drug giants to conduct 'research' that leads them to travel the world.
Then there are the incentives to prescribe more drugs than are necessary or send people for hospital tests they don't need. Professor Ann Blake Tracy in Prozac: Panacea or Pandora (Cassia Publications, 1994), writes: 'Did you know that some hospitals offer special incentive deals that give doctors valuable gifts like fax machines and car phones, if they schedule surgeries when the hospitals are hurting for business?' Incentives to play with peoples' lives and they claim that doctors represent 'ethics'. Some do, as with decent police officers, but the system doesn't want them. It wants the corruptible because they are better for business.

'Have some spending money, doctor, and we'll see you in Hawaii ...'

The bribery and corruption of doctors is a finely tuned operation by Big Pharma. Kathleen Slattery-Moschkau, a former drug company representative and independent filmmaker, has detailed how the companies and the reps monitor doctors in the United States down to the last pill through a system known as 'prescriber reports' or 'prescriber profiles'. These are compiled from various data bases. One set of data for the Drug Enforcement Administration codes doctors with ID numbers along with the drugs they prescribe, while another database, the 'physicians master file', sold for millions every year by the American Medical Association, matches the doctor ID numbers with their names. Put the two together, along with other information sources, and you can establish who prescribed what and how much

Every prescription is logged by the drug companies for their reps to target doctors

Prescriber reports are issued every week by the drug companies for internal use. These reports are not to help patient health, but to give the Big Phama reps the information they need to see how successful they've been in influencing a doctor's prescribing policy. The reps also use personality profiling of the doctors to help with the best way to approach them. Are they people who respond to 'scientific' information or do they like to be flattered? In an article called 'Spin Doctored', Shannon Brownlee and Jeanne Lenzer write:
'If Doctor A increased her prescriptions after being treated to a facial and full-body massage, more expense-paid spa excursions are in order for her. If Doctor B didn't respond to a courtesy 5-course meal, then maybe it's time to try football tickets, or up the free drug samples, or plug clinical research that touts the proffered drug's benefits.'
(http://www.slate.com/id/2119712/#ContinueArticle)
Prescriber reports rank doctors in four tiers based on the amount of drugs they prescribe. This allows the reps to target the big prescribers - the easy pickings - to prescribe even more while low prescribers can have their manipulation increased (See the trailers for the film, Side Effects, and the video Big Pharma - Big Bucks, at the end of this article for how drug company reps operate). This is the true background to drug companies. They are deeply corrupt cess pit organisations structured purely to make as much money as possible from the sickness, distress and misfortune of others. Like all Illuminati cartels, they have no empathy with those who suffer from their daily exploitation.

http://www.davidicke.com/oi/extras/june/pharmspending.jpg

Big Pharma's other major target is, naturally, the politicians and government agencies that decide and enforce - supposedly - medical and drug policy. Figures from the Center for Responsive Politics, Campaign Finance Institute, and Center for Public Integrity, reveal that, in 2004, $158 million was spent by drug companies to lobby the federal government; $17 million was given in campaign donations, 67% of it to Republicans; $7.3 million was spent on political party conventions, with 64% going to the Republicans. A million dollars was given to the presidential campaign of George Bush and half a million to John Kerry.
Big Pharma has around 1,300 lobbyists in Washington - that's more than two for every member of Congress. 'They are powerful', said Senator Chuck Grassley, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee. 'You can hardly swing a cat by the tail in that town without hitting a pharmaceutical lobbyist.' Is it any surprise then that legislation favourable to the drug industry, including immunity from prosecution, is constantly passed by the poodles on the hill? It is the same elsewhere, too, in this global gluttony of bribery and corruption. In Britain, for example, doctors are given bonuses for meeting government 'vaccination targets' - in other words financial incentives to increase the uptake of the horrific vaccine potions made by the drug corporations.

Republican senator and Senate majority leader, Bill Frist, is a classic Big Pharma manipulator and he was at the forefront, with House Speaker Dennis Hastert, of lying into law the legal immunity for the drug cartel for vaccines given during a declared state of emergency. It was called the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREPA) and as one commentator put it:
'The PREPA is unconstitutional. It removes the right to due process and judicial review for persons injured by vaccines, thus granting a virtual license to kill. Under the new law, companies making vaccines can be grossly negligent and act with wanton recklessness and still escape liability as long as they can show that their misconduct wasn't "willful." It is impossible to conceive of a lower standard for the drug companies or a higher burden of proof for injured parties.'
Democrat representative, David Obey, said the legislation was 'unilaterally and arrogantly inserted into the bill after the conference committee was over'. It was 'a blatant power play by the two most powerful men in Congress'. Two men hand in hand with Big Pharma.

Bill Frist's family owns a 'health maintenance organization' or HMO - a form of health insurance

Frist comes from a medical background and while he was at medical school he arranged for a regular supply of animals from care shelters by saying he wanted to give them a good home. What he was actually doing was dissecting and killing them in his experiments. He now enjoys campaign donations from the drug cartel and drugmaker Schering-Plough has made its Gulfstream corporate jet available to him

Frist, on the right, arrives courtesy of Big Pharma

So this is the web of corruption and deceit that connects doctors, politicians, government officials and the drug giants, and yet claims the right to judge and destroy the career of Dr. Andrew Wakefield. And there is another link between Wakefield's research and vaccine immunity for drug companies in America.
Mercury in vaccines has a fundamental impact on the development of autism in children. As the number of mercury-contaminated vaccines increased between 1989 and the late 1990s, so did the number of children becoming autistic. And figures from the U.S. government's own data bases, published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, reveals that since mercury was removed from most childhood vaccines after 1999 the reported rates of autism and other neurological disorders in children have plummeted by as much as 35 percent.
But the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREPA), signed by President Bush after massive lobbying and manipulation by the drug cartel, means that mercury can now be reintroduced to vaccines when used in immunity from prosecution situations and they can continue to send these mercury potions to the developing world.
Big Pharma is a monster and we should applaud and support those, like Andrew Wakefield, who have the guts and commitment to take it on. I wish him well as he prepares to face the wrath of such an ugly and despicable beast.

Big Pharma personified ... keep taking the tablets

american presidents are far too funny 😂

Nixon was a puppet who buggered up Watergate and made everyone hate him, even though he could've mentioned the rockefellars and other people who are really running america.
Ford stayed at home all day, and by that I mean he hadn't a clue how to run a country
Carter did as good a job as a world leader in the 18th century
Reagan fell asleep for 8 yrs allowing GHWBush to start Globalism
GHWBush didn't know anything and covered everything up
Clinton was actually pretty good
and now they've got a monkey for president, which is the funniest thing for them to ever do 😆 dubya has the record of the biggest decrease in success ever and the quickest decrease in success ever! It's absolutely so ****ing funny. crylaugh

dubya however, hasn't even won a single election, it seems these devils are even more powerful!

Originally posted by lord xyz
american presidents are far too funny 😂

Nixon was a puppet who buggered up Watergate and made everyone hate him, even though he could've mentioned the rockefellars and other people who are really running america.
Ford stayed at home all day, and by that I mean he hadn't a clue how to run a country
Carter did as good a job as a world leader in the 18th century
Reagan fell asleep for 8 yrs allowing GHWBush to start Globalism
GHWBush didn't know anything and covered everything up
Clinton was actually pretty good
and now they've got a monkey for president, which is the funniest thing for them to ever do 😆 dubya has the record of the biggest decrease in success ever and the quickest decrease in success ever! It's absolutely so ****ing funny. crylaugh

dubya however, hasn't even won a single election, it seems these devils are even more powerful!

uh clinton was NOT good.he is right up there in the running with Nixon and both Bushs as the most evil corrupted president we had.Not only did a lot of people who knew about his drug smuggling activites in mena arkansas wind up dying under very mysterious circumstances-vince foster,ron brown,ect.He also gave The okay to Janet Reno to storm into the waco compound and burn the building down with no justification to it.He also had prior knowledge that the oklahoma bombing was going to take place as well.There is a huge body count that is like in the hundreds of people that knew Clinton while governor of arkansas that knew too much about his drug smuggling activites with the CIA under Bushs watchful eye that have died under very mysterious circumstances.
Bush Jr is just a little bit worse than Clinton.Not much though.

Originally posted by Deano
he is a puppet. no matter who is in power they do what they are told or they get wiped out (kennedy)

Originally posted by Mr Parker [/i]
yep very true.

Parker, what the hell? First you say that Bush is the all evil scourge of the world responsible for 9/11, then as soon as Deano says that he's just a puppet you agree? Do you know what you believe, or are you such a nuthugger that you agree with whatever Deano says?

Of course Bush is responsible for it since he knew it would happen and did nothing to try and stop it but I never said he orchestrated it all and that he planned the whole thing.I said all along that it was the CIA and the corporate elite that planned it and was responsible for it all.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Of course Bush is responsible for it since he knew it would happen and did nothing to try and stop it

If you believe that he is a puppet, then you have to believe that if he is not responsible even if he knew it would happen for there is nothing he could do as he is a puppet.

Have you really thought out what you believe? Or do you make it up as you go along?

Your beliefs seem to lack any consistancy.

This thread just makes me laugh so hard at what people are saying

😂

any one still here

Originally posted by babe_89
any one still here

Some people weren't all here to begin with.

whats your opinion on operation northwoods kharma?

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/140606Infowars.htm

Originally posted by Deano
whats your opinion on operation northwoods kharma?

Probably the same as it was the last time you brought the subject up on Feb 16th, 2006 02:11 PM on page 23 of this thread.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Yes, I'm sure the Bush administration was involved in "operation northwoods" back in 1962. Operation northwoods was also never implemented. The attacks were proposed by adminstration members to garner public support for a Cuban invasion. Do not try to misuse or misrepresent information to prove your point, it only furthers to emphasis your desperation.

What you are doing is a two fold approach that conspiracy theorists who propose ridiculous theories often do to try and garner support for their positions.

First, you repeat your arguments in hopes that the repetition of a point will eventually make it more palatable. You do this ad nauseum.

Second, you are bring up a point that has little or nothing to do with your argument (though a simpleton might think so) to either convolute the argument or to mislead others.

Operation Northwoods has nothing to do with the Bush Administration or 9/11. It was a proposed course of action back in 1962 that was never implemented. It is a mott point.

I am sure there are other such documents as of yet undiscovered or unreleased that regard certain policies and suggestions of courses of action that are both heinous or ridiculous. And they mean nothing, because they were not implemented. As yourself why they were not implemented, and stop repeating yourself.

And please stop the contiual copy and pasting of info that no one reads. It is spamming, it ruins a potentially interesting thread, and it shows a complete lack of effort or commitment by you to speak your mind by finding it so much easier to speak the minds of others.

Taylor, B., Miller, E., Farrington, C.P., Petropoulos, M.-C., Favot-Mayaud, I., Li, J., Waight, P.A.
Autism and measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine: No epidemiological evidence for a causal association
(1999) Lancet, 353 (9169), pp. 2026-2029.

Farrington, C.P., Miller, E., Taylor, B.
MMR and autism: Further evidence against a causal association
(2001) Vaccine, 19 (27), pp. 3632-3635.

Chen, W., Landau, S., Sham, P., Fombonne, E.
No evidence for links between autism, MMR and measles virus
(2004) Psychological Medicine, 34 (3), pp. 543-553.

From a member of Wakefield's own laboratory:

Chadwick, N., Bruce, I.J., Schepelmann, S., Pounder, R.E., Wakefield, A.J.
Measles virus RNA is not detected in inflammatory bowel disease using hybrid capture and reverse transcription followed by the polymerase chain reaction
(1998) Journal of Medical Virology, 55 (4), pp. 305-311.

Chadwick's PhD thesis studies also contradict Wakefield's claims based on a study of only 12 autistic children.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Probably the same as it was the last time you brought the subject up on Feb 16th, 2006 02:11 PM on page 23 of this thread.

What you are doing is a two fold approach that conspiracy theorists who propose ridiculous theories often do to try and garner support for their positions.

First, you repeat your arguments in hopes that the repetition of a point will eventually make it more palatable. You do this ad nauseum.

Second, you are bring up a point that has little or nothing to do with your argument (though a simpleton might think so) to either convolute the argument or to mislead others.

Operation Northwoods has nothing to do with the Bush Administration or 9/11. It was a proposed course of action back in 1962 that was never implemented. It is a mott point.

I am sure there are other such documents as of yet undiscovered or unreleased that regard certain policies and suggestions of courses of action that are both heinous or ridiculous. And they mean nothing, because they were not implemented. As yourself why they were not implemented, and stop repeating yourself.

And please stop the contiual copy and pasting of info that no one reads. It is spamming, it ruins a potentially interesting thread, and it shows a complete lack of effort or commitment by you to speak your mind by finding it so much easier to speak the minds of others.

its proof that the government would attack its own people

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911

Originally posted by KharmaDog
If you believe that he is a puppet, then you have to believe that if he is not responsible even if he knew it would happen for there is nothing he could do as he is a puppet.

Have you really thought out what you believe? Or do you make it up as you go along?

Your beliefs seem to lack any consistancy.

I know that Bush is an evil man just like daddy Bush is and would not care if it happened.Again all you got to do is go to a library and read books about the Bushs.They are an evil empire family that dates all the way back to the early 20th century as I keep telling you.So yes he is very much resposible even if he is a puppet for not trying to stop it.Kenney would have spoken out against it and tried to stop it because he cared about the american people.He would have risked his life like he did to try and stop an evil empire from taking over.Bush is an evil man though so he isnt interested in risking his life to stop evil since he knows he is going to benefit from it all.I have always known for a long time way before I started getting on the net 5 years ago that the president is just a puppet for the military establishment and if you dont go along with what they want,you get whacked like kennedy.When 9-11 first happened,I didnt believe a word of what the media was saying-The movie JFK woke me up to the real world I live in and how evil it really is and to never believe what the media report so my first thoughts were I dont believe a word of what they are saying,I just bet this is an inside job by our own government.All you got to do to see for yourself that just like with kennedy,the CIA was behind 9-11 as well is visit infowars.com or rense.com. 🙄 they cover REAL news that the mainstream media covers up.the mainstream media considers tiny things like O.J.SIMPSON REAL news worth putting on the front page of the newspaper for almost an entire year important news,when crap like that,should have been on the back page of a newspaper for one day and then that should have ben it.But the major news media is controlled by big governement and big corporations so they have no interest in reporting real news.thats why I read media bypass which USED to be availiable at bookstores,now its not there now,looks like BIG BROTHER successfully stopped them from spreading the news to everybody like they were before.

Originally posted by Deano
its proof that the government would attack its own people

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911

wow thanks for that link there deano.theres a lot of great information there.

Originally posted by Deano
its proof that the government would attack its own people

You would make a crappy lawyer. It is not proof that the government would attack its own people. It was a course of action put forth for consideration that was rejected. It proves nothing and definately has no bearing on the current administration.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
I just bet this is an inside job by our own government.

You just bet? Where is your proof though?

Originally posted by Mr Parker
All you got to do to see for yourself that just like with kennedy,the CIA was behind 9-11

Once again, do you have evidence that the CIA was behind the Kennedy assasination? If you have hard evidence, then why is it that you are the only one who does? I admit that there is circumstantial evidence, but nothing concrete.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
The movie JFK woke me up to the real world I live in
Originally posted by Mr Parker
as well is visit infowars.com or rense.com. 🙄 they cover REAL news that the mainstream media covers up.

So basically your world views and political awareness has been garnered from rense.com, infowars and Oliver Stone movies...'nuff said.

Cool it guys. Nobody's got proof of conspiracies, that's why it's called conspiracy. Duh!