Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
It was a mobile Jedi Academy. It crashed on Dathomir. The Jedi negotiated to be let leave in peace if they left all the teachings on Dathomir. Luke liberated the Witches from the Nightsisters and they gave him the teachings in gratitude, allowing him to start the Jedi Praxeum.
Let me guess...NJO 😘
Originally posted by Tangible God
Luke may be, cannonically, one of the most powerful Jedi, he actually MAY be.......he just SHOULDN'T be.......his whole story of coming to the power he has in NJO isn't the greatest story of hardcore Jedi Training.It's better to keep the semi-demi-god Jedi in the past, when the Sith and Dark Side were much more rampant and powerful than post-Imperial Regime.
First off, using numbers like this is ridiculous, because this isn't an exact science. They don't have stats, and there are so many variables it's unreal.
Second, anyone on KMC or another site saying that Yoda is twice or three times as powerful compared to AOTC Anakin isn't a reliable canon source. Not even a good beginning for inferences.
And third, the phrase is half trained jedi, not halfway to NJO. If anything, the Jedi Academy series is halfway to NJO, not ROTJ. So trying to say that ROTJ Luke is half as good as NJO Luke is seriously off base.
It's simple; watch the movies.
AOTC Anakin fought hordes of Geonosians, survived a firefight in the middle of an open arena, slaughtered an entire Tusken Raider village, and even held his own against Dooku for longer than Obi-Wan did. ROTJ Luke barely took on the crew of Jabba's sailbarge.
More Darthsith19 obsfucation...
I agree that he shouldn't be and in ROTJ he shouldn't be stronger than AOTC Anakin but what Lucas says is what Lucas says.
Lucas said that ROTJ Luke is stronger than AOTC Anakin and would most likely beat him in combat? I doubt this.
How is it unreal? Sure there's lots of viariables but this is the most sound proof we've got.
Variables make for an uncertain outcome, and you would have to consider every variable, not just the ones you want to accept. This is like saying SW characters have power levels that are constant, like in DBZ or something. It's ridiculous.
Hmm, I guess I should have got you to say Yoda was more than twice as powerful as AOTC Anakin before I posted my proof.
What difference would that have made? Your argument doesn't add up so far. And you're making it out of completely ad hoc hearsay and not based on anything from the movies.
Sorry, I should have said at least half as good. And I said 1/2 trained Luke. If he is fully trained in NJO that'd mean NJO Luke is twice as strong as ROTJ Luke. So ROTJ Luke X 2 = At least as strong as NJO Luke.
Is ROTJ is half as good as NJO Luke, NJO Luke must really suck. I think you are taking his words out of context; if he said half-trained jedi, this doesn't mean half-trained altogether. Jedi is NOT equal to jedi master. In ROTJ, Luke was earning his right to be a jedi. If he was even half of NJO Luke (Who is a virtual Force god) then he would have been strong enough to oppose Sidious then, and strong enough to oppose the reborn Emperor in the DE series. But he wasn't. He never showed any ability on par with even half of NJO Luke, and he didn't show any ability that would beat Anakin from AOTC. Period.
Hey. Listen to George Lucas. Guess what buddy. He's the creater of Star Wars. Whatever he says goes. Deal with it.
Uh huh. You never did prove half of your so-called GL statements.
Anakin fought hordes of genonsians and lost. So he took out 30 or 40 Tuskens. Big deal. So he held his own against Dooku for nearly a minute. Luke beat Vader. And Luke didn't barely beat jabba's crew. He had no trouble with them. And it'd take a strong Jedi to take out all of Jabba's crew.
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And this right here is championing Luke and downplaying Anakin horribly. "it'd take a strong jedi to take out Jabba's crew." Seriously... TPM Obi-Wan could annihilate that entire sail barge. Less than a dozen had blasters.
aotc would butcher him, he killed thousands of droids and genosians as well as an entire village of sand raiders, luke killed some wannabe thugs and an asthmatic half dead robot. Luuke's swordsmanship was far weaker then anakins and he had less then half anakins raw power maybe 80% at best, luke never does anything THAT impressive until NJO and njo is both annoying and crap.
Lucas said that ROTJ Luke is stronger than AOTC Anakin and would most likely beat him in combat? I doubt this.
Variables make for an uncertain outcome, and you would have to consider every variable, not just the ones you want to accept. This is like saying SW characters have power levels that are constant, like in DBZ or something. It's ridiculous.
What difference would that have made? Your argument doesn't add up so far. And you're making it out of completely ad hoc hearsay and not based on anything from the movies.
Is ROTJ is half as good as NJO Luke, NJO Luke must really suck.
if he said half-trained jedi, this doesn't mean half-trained altogether. Jedi is NOT equal to jedi master.
In ROTJ, Luke was earning his right to be a jedi.
If he was even half of NJO Luke (Who is a virtual Force god) then he would have been strong enough to oppose Sidious then, and strong enough to oppose the reborn Emperor in the DE series.
Uh huh. You never did prove half of your so-called GL statements.
And this right here is championing Luke and downplaying Anakin horribly. "it'd take a strong jedi to take out Jabba's crew." Seriously... TPM Obi-Wan could annihilate that entire sail barge. Less than a dozen had blasters.